http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=854
usual thread starter… it is pretty astonishing that the club have used so little of their Academy produce over the years. Fabregas was training with the first team squad from day one so can’t be regarded as being developed by Liam Brady’s department. The Academy is just a cash generating machine. Shame.
The myth of Arsenal’s youth system (19/11)
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tony.macaveli
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Bull
Man, why can't you guys write something constructive. so the one thing we need is experience and you want him to drop the guys who've played the last 2 years for the kids. get your head out of your arse. we need to sign a center back and centre midfielder with experience and quality. end of story. no more bullshit articles please
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timberford
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Can't agree with this article at all.
I'll let Wenger speak for himself... (taken from arsenal.com)
"If you look at the team that played in the Carling Cup Final two years ago our midfield was Walcott, Denilson, Fabregas, Diaby. That was the midfield that started against Man United. We have a good idea of the potential development of the players. That’s why I believe seven or eight will play."
Saying that the Carling Cup boys don't get a go at the first team is just not true. If they aren't good enough they're let go and if players don't go on to achieve success at other clubs it only goes to prove that Wenger was right all along.
I'll let Wenger speak for himself... (taken from arsenal.com)
"If you look at the team that played in the Carling Cup Final two years ago our midfield was Walcott, Denilson, Fabregas, Diaby. That was the midfield that started against Man United. We have a good idea of the potential development of the players. That’s why I believe seven or eight will play."
Saying that the Carling Cup boys don't get a go at the first team is just not true. If they aren't good enough they're let go and if players don't go on to achieve success at other clubs it only goes to prove that Wenger was right all along.
Re: The myth of Arsenal’s youth system (19/11)
Oh, Kev.. missed a Myles Palmer style book plugging opportunity there!gooner.ed wrote:http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=854
usual thread starter… it is pretty astonishing that the club have used so little of their Academy produce over the years. Fabregas was training with the first team squad from day one so can’t be regarded as being developed by Liam Brady’s department. The Academy is just a cash generating machine. Shame.
Something along the lines of...
"Usual thread starter... it is pretty astonishing that the club have used so little of their Academy produce over the years. If you found that interesting, then you can read my insightful thoughts on that, and much more, in my new book Arsenal: The Making of a Modern Super-club"
Then put in a link to your publishers website.. and Bob's your uncle!
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QuartzGooner
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There is no shame at all.
If a player is good enough he will play for the first team (plus a few that are not good enough!).
If not we sell him on and make some cash, and he can have a decent career elsewhere.
Gavin Hoyte, Jack Wilshere and perhaps Jay Simpson look like they might make it through to be regular squad members.
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and Emmanuel Frimpong are right behind them too.
If a player is good enough he will play for the first team (plus a few that are not good enough!).
If not we sell him on and make some cash, and he can have a decent career elsewhere.
Gavin Hoyte, Jack Wilshere and perhaps Jay Simpson look like they might make it through to be regular squad members.
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and Emmanuel Frimpong are right behind them too.
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Sammy Mooner
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It is a good point made about Cashley. But I'm not at all sure that I agree with the article given the players currently coming through from a very limited catchment area. The odds of finding a world class local kid are minimal at best and always have been. Sure we can produce a stream of money making decent players and I see nothing wrong with that. But those that have been with the Academy since age nine, like Lansbury, Gibbs & Wilshere are certainly on their way to fine things. And unlike some past players appear to have the correct attitude off the pitch, let's hope they stay that way inclined.
Consider this - under the current stupid Academy rulings Beckham could not have joined the Manchester United Academy because he would be out of their catchment area. How dumb is that when you cannot even get any English kid you find via your scouting network? How many have we missed out on for this reason?
Consider this - under the current stupid Academy rulings Beckham could not have joined the Manchester United Academy because he would be out of their catchment area. How dumb is that when you cannot even get any English kid you find via your scouting network? How many have we missed out on for this reason?
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tomkingsbury
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i dont agree either - firstly ashley was gettign rave reviews on-loan at palace and if i remember sylvinho was also ahving njury difficulties. secondly, ashley has become (largely thru the club adn wenger) a world class full back - at one stage arguably the best in the world, and tbh how many of them do you get coming thru ur youth team per season??
manure were fortunate but not many ahve come thru since the age of beckham, scholes et al. and altho u could argue that if some of the kids ahd been given a chance ie bentley, they would ahve amde it, if u look at the harpers, sidwells, taylors, hoytes etc. they haven't gone on to better things - andy cole is the only one to really stand out and that was pre-wenger.
they only problem i see is that not enough british and irish youngsters are coming thru as they will know what the premiership is all about, and more importantly rivalry and enforce this onto the other players.
manure were fortunate but not many ahve come thru since the age of beckham, scholes et al. and altho u could argue that if some of the kids ahd been given a chance ie bentley, they would ahve amde it, if u look at the harpers, sidwells, taylors, hoytes etc. they haven't gone on to better things - andy cole is the only one to really stand out and that was pre-wenger.
they only problem i see is that not enough british and irish youngsters are coming thru as they will know what the premiership is all about, and more importantly rivalry and enforce this onto the other players.
