Negative, Negative, Fucking Negative Arsenal Fans!

[mattbanger]

God Im sick of it! the season hasn't even finished yet and there are some people who are saying we will win fuck all next season!
Im sure all of these are the newer more spoilt fans! As they do not have a clue what it was like to support Arsenal of yester year! Don't get me wrong i do beleive that alot has to change next year, but if it doesn't it still wont stop me fulling believing that Arsenal will win the lot come August! That blind faith that i have in the bottom of my heart makes me a true fan! it's such a shame that i can no longer say that about my other fellow gooners!

This blind faith raised it's self on Saturday lunchtime when i was surrounded by celebrating united fans and throw in a **** or two and a couple of Happy hammers! who all took it apon themselves to remind me how shit we were this season and how next season would bring a host of World class players leaving the club and a mid table finish was on the cards! At that point im remembered was i love this game and why i love my club and i defended them like my own kids and was filled with optomism for next season!

So i for one will be backing this team and this manager as i do every season and i like all true gooners believe!! SO GET BEHIND YOUR CLUB AND SUPPORT THEM!

[piresistible]

My friend, this site is full of them, i recommend you visit http://blog.arselickers,com/

where we have a good bunch of TRUE Arsenal supporters on there, you will see the comments there.

Best Regards
Terrence

[ramon]

When you consider the fact that RVP and Eduardo spent such a large part of this season injured, you can not afford to let Bendtner and Vela (not yet at least) be our third and fourth choice strikers. When you look at united this season you see players like Tevez being sidelined for much of the season due to the fact that he is not good enough to break into their first team. to compare Bendtner to Tevez would just be silly. Bendtner is simply not good enough to play for large parts of our season with Eduardo still feeling the reparations of his multiple injuries. We need something more from the striking end.

But for what cost?

With the reported £13 million along with a £25 million bid for Ade (assuming it is the same as last season), that’s less than a £40 million budget to buy…

one/ two experienced and solid centre back/s
one experienced and big midfielder to support Cesc
one experienced and clinical finisher to bring us goals

If these financial reports are correct then personally I think that we should just keep with the youth system and hope that we are lucky with injuries. And that the development of players like Vela, Ramsey and Wilshire goes according to plan, and hope that the team will finally be unified and everyone will see how incredible Wenger really is.

If these financial reports are not correct then I think that there is actually some sense in spending big money on a few reinforcements that will stabilise the team without completely changing it and all that Wenger has worked towards.

Part of the frustration is that the potential for our team is so high, and on a good day we can play the best football in the world. But it is a fine line between when the promise of potential and future is limiting the current season and when it will simply means that next season we will be unstoppable.

Personally I will give it one more season before even beginning to think about Wenger’s future at the club.

For any other club spending such a little amount of money and reaching semi finals in Europe and the FA would be phenomenal. and if you think that we did all this on a “badâ€

[RaM]

Absolute bullshit from both of you.

That blind faith that i have in the bottom of my heart makes me a true fan!

Blind faith in anything only makes you a fool. Do you watch football as blindly as you say? Maybe if the club just publishes all of the results at the end of the season you can read them and be content that we won the quadruple.

Surely you realise love for the club manifests itself in a multitude of ways? Sure, you love the club and I'm not going to contest that, no one on here will. But who the fuck are you to suggest that you are a true fan ahead of anyone else? Could a genuine concern for the club's fall from grace not suggest an equal love for the club? And are those of us who see the likes of Adebayor run out every week and feel daggers to the heart somehow lesser fans? Or is our emotional distress, suffered alongside the club, somehow irrelevant because we fail to accept shortcomings as the absolute best possible?

If the other posters on here disgust you so much I'd kindly suggest you piss off with a whimper and find your blissful utopia elsewhere.

[GunnerDude]

My friend, this site is full of them, i recommend you visit http://blog.arselickers.com/

where we have a good bunch of TRUE Arsenal supporters on there, you will see the comments there.

Best Regards
Terrence

We are all so hurt

[ramon]

Wenger has taken it upon himself to develop a young team, and to let them grow into their positions. Two perfect examples are Denilson and Song - both highly derided originally, and both accepted by many (but not all) supporters now as significant players.

If we assume for the moment that Wenger’s plan (if he feels inclined to stay in the face of the abuse he is now getting) is the same throughout, then we can take it that he believes Djourou is about to make the same step up, and that he can play alongside Gallas or Toure until such time as Nordveit (sorry I might be getting these spellings wrong) or another youngster is available. In the meanwhile Song can play there.

In midfield, no, we don’t all agree with you. Gilberto was a player like Denilson, and he was openly derided by Arsenal supporters, until he was out for a year, and then we suddenly realised what a problem it was not to have him in the side.

Buying or no all depends on who is coming through the ranks and what other twist to the norm Wenger is ready to introduce. Remember he gave us a team endlessly derided because it didn’t have anyone in the box. Over and over the critics said, “you won’t win anything without a centre forward in the boxâ€

[piresistible]

Gunnerdue - Not you

[hadareud]

When you consider the fact that RVP and Eduardo spent such a large part of this season injured, you can not afford to let Bendtner and Vela (not yet at least) be our third and fourth choice strikers. When you look at united this season you see players like Tevez being sidelined for much of the season due to the fact that he is not good enough to break into their first team. to compare Bendtner to Tevez would just be silly. Bendtner is simply not good enough to play for large parts of our season with Eduardo still feeling the reparations of his multiple injuries. We need something more from the striking end.

first of all Van Persie only missed 3 games through injury, that's not a large part of the season. Adebayor missed 2 months though.

As for Tevez, he's played 29 games for Man Utd this season and more minutes than Bendtner.

Bendtner scored 9 league goals, Tevez scored 5. Bendtner scored 3 game winning goals, Tevez scored 1.

Tevez is a good player, for sure, but you are overestimating his impact and underestimating Bendtner's.

edit: you or whoever actually wrote that post I should say.

[GunnerDude]

Gunnerdue - Not you

[donaldo]

How dare we complain, we ONLY pay a minimum of a grand to watch this Arsenal team.We dont know how lucky we our.We should be paying 5 grand a season,no 10 grand
Wenger should be carried around the pitch on sunday like a conquering hero
Adebayors name should ring around the stadium
Arsenal fans should go around with smiles on there faces
What have we got to be upset about?

[yourshighburylly]

As a red member who has sat in every part of the ground ( directors box & away part excepted!) I have found that it is not NEGATIVITY the problem, but moreso APATHY. There are exceptions obviously, but I have found that the most vocally critical are also the most constuctive,& ALWAYS the most vocally APPRECIATIVE too- this is an " atmosphere" isn't it? I know certain parts of the ground bring in vast amounts of money, but ( in a satisfying kind of way) my rule of thumb is to get the cheapest seats going, &, if possible, close to the away fans. This is not cos' I am a cheapskate- it is HONESTLY the best part of the ground for atmosphere- along with the Red Action section obviously. This will sound strange, but I can often relate more & respect the away fans more than for example some of OUR club level ones in terms of what they contribute to MY Personal matchday experience.
I am not naive enough to realise the revenue needs to be maximised at a club like ours, but in the long run I worry that our Arsenal is losing it's vital core supporters week in week out, & the stadium structure now worryingly reminds me of the housing market.
If it was not for work which makes it increasingly difficult to attend Saturday games- 1245 ko's are a defo no-no, I would happily trade home games for away games because I feel I get more out of it on a personal level- quality over quantity if you like.
This may not be an Arsenal specific problem from what I can gather, but I would like to on a positive note say a big THANK YOU to the travelling fans for their MAGNIFICENT support again this season( as in all seasons previously) and respect to those AWAY fans at Ashburton too for helping to create an atmosphere.
Lets get behind the boys v Stoke & show them what the Stoke fans show their team at their place- & I mean the WHOLE ground PLEASE

[hadareud]

How dare we complain, we ONLY pay a minimum of a grand to watch this Arsenal team.We dont know how lucky we our.We should be paying 5 grand a season,no 10 grand
Wenger should be carried around the pitch on sunday like a conquering hero
Adebayors name should ring around the stadium
Arsenal fans should go around with smiles on there faces
What have we got to be upset about?

The ticket prices have nothing to do with anything. Being a supporter allows you to criticise whoever you want, regardless of the prices. As long as the criticism is put to the person in question in a respectful way and as long as you at least have the courtesy to think about what you are saying before saying it. That's the least the most successful manager in our clubs history and hist team deserve. A little respect.

[mattbanger]

Maybe if the club just publishes all of the results at the end of the season you can read them and be content that we won the quadruple.
Does this make sense?

I am of course frustrated by the current team and certain players in it! but typical this thread now has a negative slant to it! What i can't believe is that people do not have a true sense of reality about the current situation! The fact is we haven't won anything for 4 years! But who has United and Chelsea(2 of the richest clubs in the world) if you do not count the Carling cup! i like every fan would love to see us win it every year but that is not a real situation and it's not the reason we love footbal and our club! and moreover the fans are already so negative about next season! so much so the manager is already weighing up being here next season! What scary is who on the playing staff would follow the boss out of the door! it doesn't bear thinking about!

I understand some of the arguments against the boss but we need to remember that he is the most sucessful manager in our history and any club in the world would welcome him! as for the flak aimed at us fans by the boss and certain members of the first team, well it is hard to take but lets be reasonable here there has been at times at the emirates where the atmosphere is terrible and hostile, not to the travelling team but to ours! it is embrassing bringing other fans to the emirates and the lack of atmosphere is incredable! and this of course transmits to the team! so we need to do more as fans! it's hillarious that some people on this forum bang on so passionately but are probably as silent as mice come match day!

My message on this thread was, lets back the team through thick and thin like "True Fans" not bitch and whine and be negative and take away our teams already sufforing confidence! the last thing we need is a repretation for fans would don't back there players!

Support is something you give and there doesn't seem to be alot of giving!

[donaldo]

How dare we complain, we ONLY pay a minimum of a grand to watch this Arsenal team.We dont know how lucky we our.We should be paying 5 grand a season,no 10 grand
Wenger should be carried around the pitch on sunday like a conquering hero
Adebayors name should ring around the stadium
Arsenal fans should go around with smiles on there faces
What have we got to be upset about?

The ticket prices have nothing to do with anything. Being a supporter allows you to criticise whoever you want, regardless of the prices. As long as the criticism is put to the person in question in a respectful way and as long as you at least have the courtesy to think about what you are saying before saying it. That's the least the most successful manager in our clubs history and hist team deserve. A little respect.

I will respect Wenger when he respects us back in return.When we turn up at Wembley and he leaves out are best player.When he keeps telling us we are not far behind Man Utd when the facts show that is not true.Does Wenger think before he makes these comments.Respect is a two way thing

[hadareud]

I will respect Wenger when he respects us back in return.When we turn up at Wembley and he leaves out are best player.When he keeps telling us we are not far behind Man Utd when the facts show that is not true.Does Wenger think before he makes these comments.Respect is a two way thing

It's ridiculous to suggest that Wenger doesn't respect the club or its fans, absolutely ridiculous.

Not only has he been our most successful manager, he's also been incredibly loyal and he lives and breathes Arsenal. To suggest he's disrespectful towards fans for not starting our best player (a player that he has signed for us by the way, just in case you forgot) beggars belief.

To say we're not as far behind Man Utd as the Champions League games would suggest is disrespectful now? wtf?