UFC 100: Dan Henderson is a prick.

MattM316 · Post by **MattM316** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:02 pm

Joe Rogan asked Henderson if he knew Michael Bisping was out cold after the first punch at UFC 100....

"Normally, I'm not that way in fights," Henderson said. "I know if the guy is out, I tend to stop. I knew I hit him out. I think that one was just to shut him up a bit."

What a wanker.
I'm not just saying that because Bisping is English and I wanted him to win, because I've always disliked Henderson's attitude.
He KNEW he had knocked him out, even said so after, yet he dropped another bomb down on an unconcious man. It's disgusting and I can't believe anyone can defend Henderson.

This is the footage for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dVe5sDn1Q4

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:58 pm

why would anyone watch this -

are you the same sort of people who enyoy bull fighting, dog fighting etc, etc

MattM316 · Post by **MattM316** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:14 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:why would anyone watch this - are you the same sort of people who enyoy bull fighting, dog fighting etc, etc

Um, it's a sport, just like boxing is a sport

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee · Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:31 pm

sorry but i loved that

bisping talked way too much shit and got what he deserved.

n7gooner · Post by **n7gooner** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:14 am

The big diference between boxing and that "sport" is when someone goes down they stop hitting in most of these KO they carry on hitting when the guy is down. Its not a sport just a chance to knock the shit out of somebody without being delt with by the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6nUPnl6K8Q

MattM316 · Post by **MattM316** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:43 am

n7gooner wrote:The big diference between boxing and that "sport" is when someone goes down they stop hitting in most of these KO they carry on hitting when the guy is down. Its not a sport just a chance to knock the shit out of somebody without being delt with by the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6nUPnl6K8Q

Ridiculous.
Boxing can be 12 rounds of repeatedly hitting someone in the head, boxing is a lot more dangerous a sport.
There has never once been a single death related to MMA, but how many deaths related to boxing?

Boxing is actually a major part of MMA, it's one of the skills which every rounded fighter needs to have these days aswell as jiu-jitsu, wrestling and submissions.

In MMA the fighter fights until the ref stops the fight, sometimes the ref is just too slow to step in but nine times out of ten he's in as quick as possible, and it's rare that you get someone like Dan Henderson doing that.
Also, in MMA the ref will call a TKO much quicker than refs do in boxing, which again makes it safer. Once he thinks a fighter isn't intelligently defending himself, he will stop the fight.

Ok the first 3 UFC's involved bar brawlers sometimes but we're at UFC 100 now and at about UFC 10 it began to get treated like a legit sport.
Alot of the fights aren't even involving punching. You get two Brazilian jiu-jitsu guys in there and half of the fight will be on the ground.

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:17 am

I like UFC but find the punching after being knocked to the floor thing pretty bad, it should be changed IMO

n7gooner · Post by **n7gooner** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:34 pm

MattM316 wrote:
n7gooner wrote:The big diference between boxing and that "sport" is when someone goes down they stop hitting in most of these KO they carry on hitting when the guy is down. Its not a sport just a chance to knock the shit out of somebody without being delt with by the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6nUPnl6K8Q

Ridiculous.
Boxing can be 12 rounds of repeatedly hitting someone in the head, boxing is a lot more dangerous a sport.
There has never once been a single death related to MMA, but how many deaths related to boxing?

Boxing is actually a major part of MMA, it's one of the skills which every rounded fighter needs to have these days aswell as jiu-jitsu, wrestling and submissions.

In MMA the fighter fights until the ref stops the fight, sometimes the ref is just too slow to step in but nine times out of ten he's in as quick as possible, and it's rare that you get someone like Dan Henderson doing that.
Also, in MMA the ref will call a TKO much quicker than refs do in boxing, which again makes it safer. Once he thinks a fighter isn't intelligently defending himself, he will stop the fight.

Ok the first 3 UFC's involved bar brawlers sometimes but we're at UFC 100 now and at about UFC 10 it began to get treated like a legit sport.
Alot of the fights aren't even involving punching. You get two Brazilian jiu-jitsu guys in there and half of the fight will be on the ground.

How can you possibly say boxing is more dangerous look at the video I put in my first post and see people kicking heads when someone is clearly out cold on the floor once the referee has stepped in.

MattM316 · Post by **MattM316** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:22 pm

n7gooner wrote:
MattM316 wrote:
n7gooner wrote:The big diference between boxing and that "sport" is when someone goes down they stop hitting in most of these KO they carry on hitting when the guy is down. Its not a sport just a chance to knock the shit out of somebody without being delt with by the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6nUPnl6K8Q

Ridiculous.
Boxing can be 12 rounds of repeatedly hitting someone in the head, boxing is a lot more dangerous a sport.
There has never once been a single death related to MMA, but how many deaths related to boxing?

Boxing is actually a major part of MMA, it's one of the skills which every rounded fighter needs to have these days aswell as jiu-jitsu, wrestling and submissions.

In MMA the fighter fights until the ref stops the fight, sometimes the ref is just too slow to step in but nine times out of ten he's in as quick as possible, and it's rare that you get someone like Dan Henderson doing that.
Also, in MMA the ref will call a TKO much quicker than refs do in boxing, which again makes it safer. Once he thinks a fighter isn't intelligently defending himself, he will stop the fight.

Ok the first 3 UFC's involved bar brawlers sometimes but we're at UFC 100 now and at about UFC 10 it began to get treated like a legit sport.
Alot of the fights aren't even involving punching. You get two Brazilian jiu-jitsu guys in there and half of the fight will be on the ground.

How can you possibly say boxing is more dangerous look at the video I put in my first post and see people kicking heads when someone is clearly out cold on the floor once the referee has stepped in.

Because it is, that's how I can say it. You don't see MMA fighters brain damaged or dying from their fighting injuries. Try telling Michael Watson that boxing is less dangerous than MMA after he ended up a cabbage after being punched by Chris Eubank.

In UFC you cannot kick someone when they are on the ground.
The video comes from PRIDE and Japan where there are different rules.
There is much less head trauma in MMA than there is in boxing and MMA is also a more skilled sport overall.

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:35 am

Hey no kids or animals were hurt in the making of this - so i don't give a shit.

If two blokes want to kick the crap out of each other - it's up to them - But if my son ever came up to me and said he wanted to do this - i'd beat the shit out of him

kkaaaaaaaabooooommmmmmmm

MattM316 · Post by **MattM316** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:11 pm

I'm just a bit shocked that MMA is still so misunderstood.
When it started to get popular back in 1993 it was a bit of a freakshow admittedly, but the sport developed so quickly.
Even at the first few UFC's, altho there were few rules and alot of bar brawling street fighting types, you still had the likes of Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock who were established athletes. Then after a few years it developed so much. Rule changes were made, the Nevada State Athletic Commission eventually allowed MMA shows to take place etc.

There are a hell of alot of rules too, this is the list of what isn't allowed:

1. Butting with the head.
2. Eye gouging of any kind.
3. Biting.
4. Hair pulling.
5. Fish hooking.
6. Groin attacks of any kind.
7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8. Small joint manipulation.
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
21. Spitting at an opponent.
22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
30. Interference by the corner.
31. Throwing in the towel during competition.