anyone attend Barnet away, 14 th July?

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anyone attend Barnet away, 14 th July?

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I ask this as I read an article from a Gooner who was appalled at the racist chanting from a group of young 'arsenal' supporters at the game. Some chants included "Tottenham's going to Aushwitz; Hitler's going to gas them again", and allegedly even our own goalkeeper, Mr Almunia was called a 'spic bastard'. :shock:
Other offensive songs covered the abuse of Muslims, Asians, Africans and Sikhs - and even the pre-match minute's silence was marred by "hissing gas noises, and racist comments".
Barnet's stewards were either unable or unwilling to eject these people, and no police were called. The man goes onto suggest that chanting was heard sporadically last season (not sure if this was home or away - I remember an incident at stamford bridge, where this black dreadlock gooner sitting beside me - often on Sky's cameras, went AWOL from his seat to confront some fellow supporters further back for alleged racist chanting at half time); a worrying sign.
The writer also pointed out a chant about Eboue, which Im sure some of you are away of, likening him to the colour of burnt toast. This chant was the one that made me think for a while. I am guilty of the odd **** chant at the end of 'We hate Tottenham', but have made a conservative effort to remove the word from any chants I partake in - another more important point here is that spudz fans collectively use the term to refer to themselves, with pride, although I'm sure our use of the phrase is without doubt racist, although we are highlighting spudz fans rather than Jews. We most certainly have many Jewish supporters, and as David Dein was a Jew, the use of the word can certainly be misinterpreted by some.
Going back to Eboue, if I was a player for Arsenal, one of the most produest moments would be to here the crowd chant my name, and even having a song just for me. However, if I was black, or more precisely Eboue, and heard that particular song, I would be;
a). deeply upset and hurt, or/and
b). extremely angered and pissed off.
Im sure this group of youths were in the minority, but it certainly shows we are a long way from kicking racism out of football when a minority are shitting on our own doorstep.

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Re: anyone attend Barnet away, 14 th July?

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tomkingsbury wrote:We most certainly have many Jewish supporters, and as David Dein was a Jew.
He ain't dead you know :lol:
It's sad to hear these such things & arsenal.con did bring a page up telling supporters that those sort of chants weren't allowed
If it were Barnet supporters it would be a different story but as it is Arsenal supporters then something needs to be sorted out
We have one of the most popular supporters with many people from different cultures includeing our own team
We don't want to be going back to the past as we are good people, good suporters & all love one thing, Arsenal

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Indeed, such behaviour is despicable and I wish the Barnet stewards had done their jobs. I wouldn't wish my own worst enemy to have to suffer such abuse

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it sickens me that this is still a problem its about time people copped on to themselves

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I was at Barnet and I've got to say, I didn't hear anything of the sort. However, there were a few chants coming from behind the goal (the one we attacked in the second half) from a group of Arsenal fans which I couldn't make out. Maybe that is what they were singing.

What I can say about it is that; the Barnet stewards were fucking useless. So it would not surprise me if they did nothing about such chanting.

Also, as regards some of the posts on this thread, I would encourage you not to overreact. Now, before I get lynched, I'm not suggesting we're overreacting over the severity of the chants, because we're not. They're outrageous and disgusting. What I mean is that this is a very, very small section of Arsenal fans singing these songs. Football has come a long way since the days where fans would buy bananas outside West Ham just to throw them at their own black players! No matter how far we come with kicking racism out of football, it will never be completely gone. Unfortunately, it is just a sad fact of life, and not just football. There will be idiots wherever we go. All we can do is make sure we're not guilty of such ignorance and have a word with a nearby steward (unless you're at Barnet!) if you hear anything of the sort.

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Post by WinterburnsRightFoot »

I was at Barnet and did hear the Eboue song. It was a group of blokes who'd seemed like they'd had a few sherberts and were finding it all quite hilarious.

Personally, I found it quite nausiating and disgusting. If I hadn't been on my own I'd like to think that I would have said something. But I was so I didn't.

No place for that kind of shit at football anymore (or anywhere else for that matter). Twats.

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every team has a knuckle dragger element amongst its support, even arsenal. if this were a match against premiership opposition, the culprits could have been traced by use of cctv and then a check on who tickets were sold to for those seats. and then given a lengthy ban from attending arsenal games. however, i would like to think that whoever the perpetrators of this chanting were, they do not regularly attend arsenal games. it may even have been mischievous barnet fans. i was in the seats - so i didn't hear anything. i was quite shocked to be told about it later. football and society has done a hell of a lot over the last 30 odd years to make the UK a less racist place, which given the mix of people in our society is just as well. prejudice of any sort is unhealthy. let's rise above it and ensure if there are any repeats that we don't have to mix with the perpetrators again. on this one, i am in favour of shopping 'fans' to stewards. it's not big and it's not funny. just pathetic.

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I was at Barnet and can't say I heard the chants but I was on the side terrace and the smallish group of guys who were singing were behind the goal so maybe I just could'nt hear them properly.

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charliegeorgewhocanhitem wrote:I was at Barnet and can't say I heard the chants but I was on the side terrace and the smallish group of guys who were singing were behind the goal so maybe I just could'nt hear them properly.
Sounds like you were pretty much where I was and have identified the same group as me. I agree totally with Ed by the way, but that goes with out saying.

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tonysaunders wrote:
charliegeorgewhocanhitem wrote:I was at Barnet and can't say I heard the chants but I was on the side terrace and the smallish group of guys who were singing were behind the goal so maybe I just could'nt hear them properly.
Sounds like you were pretty much where I was and have identified the same group as me. I agree totally with Ed by the way, but that goes with out saying.
I've always felt a cut above west am, millwall, chelsea etc when it comes to this kind of thing but it just shows there's idiots everywhere even if ours are'nt quite as numerous as they are/were at other places.

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Post by stats »

Like TS i saw a group of Arsenal singers on the North terrece behind the goal where the houses were i think that they could be them but i don't want to judge but they seemed to be the only ones singing that day as it was slient in the South stand that day where i was sitting

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Post by GoonerJim »

I was in the north terrace near these mugs when it was happening. Everything from the first post is true as to what they said (they were late teens early 20s covered in tattoos) there was a large froup of them and they seemed to think they were some sort of firm or something it was disgusting! among things they were chanting were 'sack the board sack the board sack the board' to which they got a reply of 'where were you when we were shit'
A bloke confronted them and was threatened with a hiding, Stewards came over while they were still singing these songs and STILL nothing was done. Made me ver angry personally

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