Djourou on loan and the squad is so thin..depressed or what

[lowerwest]

This really is the final straw.A crap summer just got a whole lot worse...bits i plainly dont understand.

1) Let ur most talented reserve go on loan while keeping clumsier (big phil) or talentless alternatives (song).

2) Fib or lie about bringing in signings then bang on about young unproven players like they are the finished article.

3) Make no attempt at dealing with your lack of squad depth and then start moving people out of position.

4) Dont committ yourself to a contract and wonder why people question your long term future.

5) Sell your star striker for peanuts and say nothing for 10 days while the rest of us wonder what the hell is going on.

Piss poor summer,appallingly managed.

Really gets my goat when sky etc are banging on about the 400m that has been spent and we are have been so inactive.

[demzy]

1) Big Phil is actually a better player than djourou. He starts for the national team, and has way more potential than djourou.
2) Where was the fibbing or lying? Correct me if im wrong but hasn't wenger spent the best part of £18mill - £20 mill on improving the squad, bringing in 4 players, 3 of which could easily go straight into the starting lineup (Edauardo, Sagna, Fabianski).
3) See comment no.2. Players nowadays are versatile and can play in many positions.
4) Wenger has come out and said he will come out at the right time and say whats happening. He said they are talking and normally when they talk there is always a positive outcome.
Wenger has built a young, talented squad. Why would he do this if he was going to leave, only for someone else to come in and get rid of them.
5) It was the right time to sell Henry, and to get £16mill is bargain for a player who is nearly 30 years old. Thierry was sold when we lost the champions league final. He was at the club in person but not in spirit. First seasoon at the emirates, he was injured all the time and only scored 11 goals.

[jr27]

I for one am feeling extremely confident and excited by the season.

Arsene is in a far better position to judge things than any of us, and I have faith in him and the team!

We have a talented squad, and getting rid of Henry will turn out to be a blessing, Im sure of it.

I agree the squad is thin, but I'd prefer that than buying a load of sub standard players to make up numbers!

Bring on Fulham!!!!

[demzy]

I for one am feeling extremely confident and excited by the season.

Arsene is in a far better position to judge things than any of us, and I have faith in him and the team!

We have a talented squad, and getting rid of Henry will turn out to be a blessing, Im sure of it.

I agree the squad is thin, but I'd prefer that than buying a load of sub standard players to make up numbers!

Bring on Fulham!!!!

Hear hear!!

[charliegeorgewhocanhitem]

I can't understand the decision to let him go out on loan, I thought he was great last season and a good addition to the squad. I spose we have the option to bring him back if we have an injury crisis tho, well I hope we do.

[REB]

not sure bout phil s been better then johann d,, i feel djourou has lot more potenial and hopefully witthe games he gets at brum will stand 2 him in jan when he coms back wat wit kolo gone 2 anc,,

[Chunky The Gooner]

Id like to have seen Johann stay because Wenger never seems to call players before there loan spell even if needed and I dont want to see Song on the pitch let alone centre half. Hopefully Senderos can put last season behind him. But at least it will mean Djorou gets some more games under his belt which will benefit him more than Arsenal reserve matches at Barnet.

[Belfast Boy]

This really is the final straw.A crap summer just got a whole lot worse...bits i plainly dont understand.

1) Let ur most talented reserve go on loan while keeping clumsier (big phil) or talentless alternatives (song).

2) Fib or lie about bringing in signings then bang on about young unproven players like they are the finished article.

3) Make no attempt at dealing with your lack of squad depth and then start moving people out of position.

4) Dont committ yourself to a contract and wonder why people question your long term future.

5) Sell your star striker for peanuts and say nothing for 10 days while the rest of us wonder what the hell is going on.

Piss poor summer,appallingly managed.

Really gets my goat when sky etc are banging on about the 400m that has been spent and we are have been so inactive.

Senderos is a better centre half than people are giving him credit for, clearly not as mobile as some, but his reading of the game and hence positioning is improving and his tackling and commitment have never been in doubt, I think AW must see something in him cos there is no doubt he has made a few mistakes but remember all those eee aw taunts directed toward our very own TA who went from bein a "donkey" to havin total respect from every single player and fan in the country as one of the best captains Arsenal and England ever had even Shearer didn't give big Tone any lip! Just on that point Shearer was in the paper during the week saying "a lot of people seem to be thinkin that Arsenal are gonna struggle to make the top, I'm not one of them"!
On the issue of biggin up the youngsters and sayin stuff about signings and available funds there is probably a certain altho minimal amount of subterfuge, neccessary to maintain the clubs profile and to give confidence to the youngsters and prospective fans and sponsors, you don't see ManUre advertising the fact that in fiscal terms they are flirting with financial meltdown!
The reason AW acts the way he does concerning his contract is cos he is probably fed up with constantly having to prove loyalty to everyone and point blank refuses to sign at the behest of a notoriously manipulative media, in fact I think we went as far to say in as many words, I'll do it when you stop asking!
I don't think that we sold TH for peanuts, considering that he's 30, he wanted to leave English football, was starting to pick up injuries and no longer had the afterburners! Barcelona actually paid quite a bit more than they wanted to and only coughed up when they got wind that Inter and AC were sniffin around! Also the key is not the fee but how big the initial lump sum is and Barca were also forced to pay a greater than usual percentage up front, much the same as when everybody was sayin that we could/should have got more from the Emirates naming deal but again as is the norm in big business it's all about interest and Emirates were offering the greater part of the total fee up front which translates into even more for us as it reduces the annual amount we have to pay off the big banks who financed the Grove project as it's just like any other mortgage in that if your boss gave you your next 5 yrs wages up front you could pay off your house that is otherwise going to take you almost the rest of you working life to do this is why the rich keep getting richer and the poor - well you know the rest!
Could you also make it clearer exactly what annoys you about what Sky were saying???

[REB]

we feel the force belfast boy,, th14 was a tired 30 year old and aw knew he wouldnt be able 2 play a full season again wat wit his injuries and so forth,, s enderos 2 me will stay on the bench but djourou i feel is the better prospect now,, ive nothing against big phil and he does com in 4 undue critisism,,, but i just hope we dont need him 2 often as i would prefer gallas and toure as our centre half pairing,, as someone said earlier aw is the man who see,s the players every day so i put my thrust in him,, season has started and we can but hope and pray for a good one,, watchin spu*rs v sunderland now and spu*s hav 18mill bent on bench,, AND MARTINS JOLS MOTHER IS A WHOOOOOOOOOOORE

[dvbrisgooner1]

Senderos is not good enough. Djourou is a much more able player. He is faster, stronger and better on the ball. Senderos is ok until he faces a forward who wants to be a bit physical (Drogba is only one example of a forward who has dominated him - remeber Berbatov and MIDO!!! in the Carling Cup semi-final).

The fact that we now have only 3 centre-backs should be a great concern to us all. If Toure and Gallas get injured/suspended we will be in all sorts of trouble.

Our squad currently totals 23 players including 3 goalkeepers and dead-wood like Song and Flamini. I was feeling optimistic when we won the two tournaments and Wenger was talking about signing another 2 players, now I am really worried once again.

[Belfast Boy]

Still another 3 weeks to go bro

[lowerwest]

Thanks for your replies...Spurs cheered me up a bit and i think we will have a good start to the season but i dont see us challenging at the sharp end mainly because i dont think we have in anyway dealt with the big issues from the last few years.

1) Lack of goals from wide areas. RP7 where are u now?

2) Squad not strong enough..our bench is no way as good as the top 3.

3) The last few years have been characteristized by letting in late cheap goals and a general inability to deal with physical teams and ones that string 10 men behind the ball.

4) Djourou is much more dependable and solid than Big Phil. Cant believe anyone is suggesting otherwise. Big Phil has gone backwards and has been shown up for pace/power by the likes of Drogba & a total lack of versatility. Witness that cameo at Blackburn ffs.

5) Wenger has got it wrong on a number of occasions and seems to be beyond criticsm which i dont think is healthy. His programme notes and official website spoke of 1 or 2 signings. Where are they? I hope i am proved wrong but it doesnt look like it. He has previous with regards saying signings are coming then mysteriously pulling the plug on them. Very few actually believe this squad can challenge for the top honours.

6) Sky-general point about all the money sloshing about. Why arent we spending any? The old bollox about having money to spend if required dont wash...something mega odd is going on.

[Belfast Boy]

Sky-general point about all the money sloshing about. Why arent we spending any? The old bollox about having money to spend if required dont wash...something mega odd is going on.

Can I assume by your username that you're a long term season ticket holder, if so why don't you understand where our money is going??? and if there is so much money sloshin about why did the Chavs, L'pool and City etc. have to sell out???

[lowerwest]

Yes i am a long time season ticket holder and yes i supported the move to the Emirates.What i didnt support was the dumbing down of our team to a point where we have a paper thin squad with zero hope of challenging for the top honours. I for one am fed up with being told yes money is available when it plainly isnt.
Did yesterday confirm or deny most of our fears?

[Chunky The Gooner]

Well the subs bench werent all that !