Why have Arsenal always been tight

lowerwest · Post by **lowerwest** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:44 pm

This is something i have never understood. Has always been the case...never splashed the cash ever...was the same in 70s/80s/90s,in GG time and now they have Wenger the ultimate tightwad.

1) We never disclose fees we pay for anyone....

2) Our record fee is about 15m?

3) We are happy to sell for 25m but get a nosebleed if any big players are linked with us.

4) For a big club we have an incredibly small minded attitude towards money.

5) Every time we have an injury crisis we make do rather than deal with it.

Am i being unfair?

Captain Fabregas · Post by **Captain Fabregas** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:46 pm

Because in 10-20 years we will exist and Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool won't.

LDB · Post by **LDB** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:49 pm

because we're the arsenal and we're class

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:56 pm

Captain Fabregas wrote:Because in 10-20 years we will exist and Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool won't.

Are you a time traveller?

LDB wrote:because we're the arsenal and we're class

Yes we are but whats that got to do with spending?

jmardon · Post by **jmardon** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:58 pm

The other two replies sum it up perfectly. We are the Arsenal and we have a bit of class about us. The majority of the people involved running the club have a long history and as such are more inclined to not riddle us with a debt we cannot afford. See Man U/the Glazers for the opposite. So what if we do not disclose the transfer fees we pay? Why should we make public knowledge the fees we pay when we have no obligation to do so and it could affect future transfers. Finally, a small minded approach to money wouldn't have seen us build the fantastic stadium we have, whilst maintaining our champions league status. Arsene Knows. More than anyone else does.

lowerwest · Post by **lowerwest** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:03 pm

All these things are admirable and i agree Wenger is a magician and has produced fantastic teams on a budget. This one even scores goals without any strikers! Even so is it sustainable...i would loath to see us buy sucess personally i think we should be operating more in the middle ground getting people like vermaelen and sagna for relatively small fees. We need a striker...will we get one...i doubt it.

augie · Post by **augie** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:21 pm

To say that we are tight cos we have class or that other clubs wont be around in a few years is absolutely laughable

This is fcuking nothing to do with class and if you want to analysise the modern Arsenal then why dont you look at the class shown by the board as they discarded the traditional club crest and invented a new crest for financial gain or maybe the manner in which they expelled two of the biggest shareholders from the board cos they dared to oppose the great danny fiszman

This class tradition that is thrown out by some fans is utter bullshit and belongs to the days when the club did indeed behave differently than the best but those days are long gone my friends

By the way manyoo will be still around long after you, me and our grandchildrens grandchildren are long dead so dont spout crap suggesting that our club will ever outlive them - they may well be up to their eyeballs in debt but they are also the biggest money making club in the world and if they were put up for sale in the morning there would be a massive queue of interested bidders

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:31 pm

augie wrote:To say that we are tight cos we have class or that other clubs wont be around in a few years is absolutely laughable This is fcuking nothing to do with class and if you want to analysise the modern Arsenal then why dont you look at the class shown by the board as they discarded the traditional club crest and invented a new crest for financial gain or maybe the manner in which they expelled two of the biggest shareholders from the board cos they dared to oppose the great danny fiszman This class tradition that is thrown out by some fans is utter bullshit and belongs to the days when the club did indeed behave differently than the best but those days are long gone my friends

By the way manyoo will be still around long after you, me and our grandchildrens grandchildren are long dead so dont spout crap suggesting that our club will ever outlive them - they may well be up to their eyeballs in debt but they are also the biggest money making club in the world and if they were put up for sale in the morning there would be a massive queue of interested bidders

Spot on augie

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:34 pm

i think that if augie was a chelsea or manure fan he would be complaining about the huge ammounts of money spent and how that's going to be terrible for the club's future.

anyway, i was thinking about changing the names: rosetinters to "futurists" and realists to "fuck-it-lets-spend-it-all-on-expensive-players-and-be-champions-ists"

jmardon · Post by **jmardon** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:36 pm

So Augie - why are we tight then? And how should the club be run if they are not doing things the right way at the moment? As for chucking out Dein, although he did well for us, the way he saddled up next to the Russian left a sour taste and if we treated him in an undeserved manner, would his friend Arsene have just stood by without saying something? Maybe he would have for the sake of the bigger picture. The club crest is something I agree with and was angry at the time, but its the business side of things and if doing that generated more money and protected the copy right then so be it. time changes and you have to move along with it. the board might not be right in every decision they make but they do things with knowledge and affection for The Arsenal and are a lot f**king better than the alternative we will probably end up with one day. bottom line - if Arsene is happy with it - you should be. Id rather have our ownership model than man u and im sure their fans would agree. also, tight club and all that but we're not doing so bad at the moment despite our tightness and our injuries and our stadium. could be sitting top of the league tomorrow night. thats what f**kin matters. THE ARSENAL. THE ARSENAL.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:37 pm

brazilianGOONER wrote:i think that if augie was a chelsea or manure fan he would be complaining about the huge ammounts of money spent and how that's going to be terrible for the club's future.

anyway, i was thinking about changing the names: rosetinters to "futurists"

Weirdly enough, I'm meant to be doing a project on futurism (the art movement

) this very minute!

A sign to stay on here then, fuck the work!

littlefire · Post by **littlefire** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:49 pm

lowerwest wrote:Has always been the case...never splashed the cash ever...was the same in 70s/80s/90s,

Am i being unfair?

We certainly spent money in the 70s. Alan Ball, Alan Sunderland, Peter Marinello, Brian Kidd, Supermac...to name but a few.

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:53 pm

littlefire wrote:
lowerwest wrote:Has always been the case...never splashed the cash ever...was the same in 70s/80s/90s,

Am i being unfair?
We certainly spent money in the 70s. Alan Ball, Alan Sunderland, Peter Marinello, Brian Kidd, Supermac...to name but a few.

I remember being gutted when we wouldnt match uniteds Â£3.75 million bid for Roy Keane during GG's time, in my time we always have been on the backfoot when it comes to spending money.

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:08 pm

The board don't believe in putting the club in debt for players, so it will be in a strong position for the future so it isn't having to consider selling off the training ground.

I think this January has been a difficult one to buy in. Clubs tend not to want to sell key players during the middle of the season and the type we probably need to buy for short time, proven players who can fit in immediately won't be easy to get. It should be easier to supplement the squad in the summer but hopefully we can nab a striker or a dm (ideally both) this window

Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:48 pm

Arsenal Football Club

The bank of England club

Money has always been on the agenda since Henry Norris dragged our skint butts from the South of the river to the HoF

Chapman and excellence on the field plus the vision of a strong board developed an infrastructure that NO ONE could match. United and Liverpool saw how this was done and AFTER the war took the Arsenal approach to build from scratch.

However, Arsenal remained tight with the purse strings and this legacy continues. I for one cannot make any real comment on the boardroom mess ups since Dein was removed, but all i do know is this...

Arsenal will be self sufficient for as long as the right ethos is continued.
Thanks to the board of the 1920s we still have a club that can truly be called class....even if at times we dont show it.

THE Arsenal

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