Manure debts/David Beckham

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Manure debts/David Beckham

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Just read that david beckham may train with us during the winter - as its paper talk probably a load of crap, but if so does anyone have any comments about it? not really sure myself, but i guess he may have a positive impact on our younger players. I felt that altho beckham is a bit of a spotlight hogger, he is a great role model for football, and manages to overcome many obstacles i.e. england sending off, getting back into madrid team when cappello said he wouldnt play anymore etc.

Secondly, after reading in the last gooner magazine about manure's debts in regards to any potetntial takeover we may have, the Manure supporters trust has (again allegedly) claimed that interest payments have reached an annual repayment of £100m. I may dislike manure, but to me that doesnt sound too good, and i'd hate to see a club suffer a similar fate as that of leeds, even if both sets of fans are in the majority, wankers :roll:

So too me, and i know we have doen this topic to death, i certainly feel we would be better off not accepting a takeover - and anyway, would mr wenger spend any money.

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I wouldn't mind Becks training over the Arsenal as he & Wenger get on well with each other & at one point David expressed that he wanted to play for us when Madrid were shitting him but with his wages being out this world Wenger never got him
I can't see it happening but it would be nice for a lead of him as we do need the experience & he could become a good coach towards the younger lot (as Tom said), wonder if he will retire & become one soon
With the Man Utd debts the fans knew if the Yanks took over that alot of trouble would go ahead with the fans turning on the team & forming a brand new club, would any Arsenal fans do the same if the Russian took over????

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stats wrote: he (Beckham) could become a good coach towards the younger lot, wonder if he will retire & become one soon
I just cant see him becoming one to be honest. I thnik he has alot ot give football, but when u are a major celebrity and have a highly demanding wife, i cant help but think he will become a figure to promote sales for various companies across the globe. i think eventually he'll become an ambassador of football, but i think he'll be happy doing work at his US soccer schools/camps. Be nice to think he will ocach kids tho, i'd imagine he has alot to pass on, no matter how the media portray him as a dumbass.

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With the Man Utd debts the fans knew if the Yanks took over that alot of trouble would go ahead with the fans turning on the team & forming a brand new club, would any Arsenal fans do the same if the Russian took over????
Can't see it.

The enthusiasm for both FCUM and AFC Wimbledon has wained among it's original fan base, they still get high attendances but not what it originally got.

You have to remember that the vast majority of people who support big clubs like the Arsenal don't venture to Essex or Middlesex Senior league level and the shit level of talent available is a culture shock once the romance of it has worn off. You have also got to remember it takes years for a club to work it's way through the pyramid of non-league football and although it's been restructured, progress gets bottlenecked at some point.

If you look at Canvey Island, who were one of the richer non-league sides, they took years to get through the Ryman league, coming 2nd three years in a row, even though they were probably better than most of the conference sides throughout this period. Fans used to Premiership football just wont have the patience with it.

The closest thing I think that could be practical would be an Arsenal supporters trust buying out an existing club, say Barnet and molding it as an Arsenal themed club, buying former Arsenal players on the way down in their careers, with a clubhouse showing the Arsenal illegally on foreign satellite, if the kick offs don't clash.

This also has ethical problems as Barnet fans wont like their club hijacked by disgruntled Arsenal fans and of course what would happen should the Russian fucks off, we'd all fuck off back to Arsenal.

Sadly we're hooked and the *word censored* who run football know it and rip us off with gusto, which is why it pisses me off when people say football is a business like any other. Nobody stands outside Coca-Cola's offices shouting sack the board and protesting takeover bids while still consuming the product, they just buy Pepsi if they don't like the taste anymore.

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Cus Geezer wrote:
With the Man Utd debts the fans knew if the Yanks took over that alot of trouble would go ahead with the fans turning on the team & forming a brand new club, would any Arsenal fans do the same if the Russian took over????
Can't see it.

The enthusiasm for both FCUM and AFC Wimbledon has wained among it's original fan base, they still get high attendances but not what it originally got.

You have to remember that the vast majority of people who support big clubs like the Arsenal don't venture to Essex or Middlesex Senior league level and the shit level of talent available is a culture shock once the romance of it has worn off. You have also got to remember it takes years for a club to work it's way through the pyramid of non-league football and although it's been restructured, progress gets bottlenecked at some point.

If you look at Canvey Island, who were one of the richer non-league sides, they took years to get through the Ryman league, coming 2nd three years in a row, even though they were probably better than most of the conference sides throughout this period. Fans used to Premiership football just wont have the patience with it.

The closest thing I think that could be practical would be an Arsenal supporters trust buying out an existing club, say Barnet and molding it as an Arsenal themed club, buying former Arsenal players on the way down in their careers, with a clubhouse showing the Arsenal illegally on foreign satellite, if the kick offs don't clash.

This also has ethical problems as Barnet fans wont like their club hijacked by disgruntled Arsenal fans and of course what would happen should the Russian fucks off, we'd all fuck off back to Arsenal.

Sadly we're hooked and the *word censored* who run football know it and rip us off with gusto, which is why it pisses me off when people say football is a business like any other. Nobody stands outside Coca-Cola's offices shouting sack the board and protesting takeover bids while still consuming the product, they just buy Pepsi if they don't like the taste anymore.
"barnet fans won't like their club hi-jacked" - You think!! What could they not like about Arsenal fans running their club, buying ageing ex-Arsenal players and Arsenal fans watching dodgy satellite TV in the clubhouse.

Still, we could call the new team BARSENET

And good point about the brand but wrong example. Tests and studies have shown that pepsi and coke are two entirely different tastes, and if coke's taste changed, it would not just be a convenient switch to pepsi. There is also a larger than usual element of loyalty to coke or pepsi over the other.

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Tests and studies have shown that pepsi and coke are two entirely different tastes
Looks like you passed the Pepsi challenge.

As a side question, I wonder if Pepsi and Shirley tasted different. Maybe George Michael might know if he went through a straight phase in the 80s?

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Cus Geezer wrote:
Tests and studies have shown that pepsi and coke are two entirely different tastes
Looks like you passed the Pepsi challenge.

As a side question, I wonder if Pepsi and Shirley tasted different. Maybe George Michael might know if he went through a straight phase in the 80s?
:D

For George:
  • Pepsi tasted like Pepsi

    Shirley tasted like coke

    And coke tasted like co.....oops, better leave that one.

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Our training ground must be gettng near full now? i swear we have loads of ex. players training with Arsenal, i know Ray Parlour is and Keown does on occasions.

Don't mind if Beckham was added to the list, he might be able to teach our boys to cross the ball or take corners :lol: :wink:

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All_Arsenal_1886 wrote:Don't mind if Beckham was added to the list, he might be able to teach our boys to cross the ball or take corners :lol: :wink:
Forgot to mention that
Pitty he don't know how to head a ball

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For George:


Pepsi tasted like Pepsi

Shirley tasted like coke

And coke tasted like co.....oops, better leave that one.
But for George, none of it tasted better than cottage cheese.

Probably best to leave it at that, after all the Ashley Cole stuff we might get a visit from Peter Tatchell if we're not careful.

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we might get a visit from Peter Tatchell if we're not careful.
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