English Ex-UFC Fighter jailed for £53million robbery

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English Ex-UFC Fighter jailed for £53million robbery

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Watch a bit of UFC, my brother is a massive MMA fan so he keeps me up to date. Remember at the time of the robbery reading all about Lee Murray, bit of a nutter and apparently kicked the crap out of Tito Ortiz in a street fight after the UFC's first event in england.

He ran off to morroco after the robbery and was living it up in a mansion over there like a young ronny biggs.....well where are you now Lee :lol:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100601/tu ... 23e80.html

Securitas robbery mastermind jailed
Tuesday, June 1 06:29 pm

Buzz Up! Print Story A martial arts expert who masterminded the £53 million Securitas robbery has been jailed for 10 years in Morocco. Skip related content
Related photos / videos Securitas robbery mastermind jailed Enlarge photo Cage fighter Lee Murray, 30, was told he will spend the next decade in prison at a hearing in Rabat, Kent Police said.

The sentence was for his role co-ordinating the audacious raid at the cash depot in Tonbridge, Kent, on February 21, 2006.

Last June the Moroccan authorities refused to extradite Murray, originally from Sidcup, after establishing his Moroccan nationality.

Since then detectives have worked closely with their overseas colleagues to ensure Murray does not escape justice.

He has been held in prison since his arrest at a shopping centre several months after the raid and has already served time for drug-related offences.

Detective Superintendent Mick Judge said: "I'm pleased Murray will now begin serving a significant prison sentence for his part in the Tonbridge robbery.

"Officers investigating the £53 million robbery have put six men before the courts in the UK and they have been sentenced to a total of 156 years imprisonment.

"We must not forget the traumatic experience the Dixons and the Securitas employees went through that night in 2006 - held at gunpoint and fearing for their lives.

"I'm pleased that Murray, who played a key role in the conspiracy to kidnap the Dixons and rob the depot, has now been held accountable."

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I don't know about kicked the crap out of Tito Ortiz, by all accounts they had a brief exchange and Ortiz ended up on his arse..

As for him being sentenced and jailed in Morocco for the robbery..he has actually came out of it pretty well, he was by all accounts the ring leader yet he has only been sentenced to ten years, whereas the others that got sentenced here have been given 15 years and upwards..
I think you can guarantee he will do a lot less than ten years and by all accounts his money is allowing him to live as comfortably in jail as is possible.
They have recovered no money from him so when he gets out his money will be waiting for him, add to that book and movie deals and as i say he hasn't come out of the whole thing as bad as it may seem...

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Im pretty sure a movie is already in the pipeline. There is no way he was the ringleader/mastermind behind the robbery, he is the guy who has taken the fall for the mastermind and is being rewarded in kind, thats what i reckon anyway.

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northbankbren wrote:Im pretty sure a movie is already in the pipeline. There is no way he was the ringleader/mastermind behind the robbery, he is the guy who has taken the fall for the mastermind and is being rewarded in kind, thats what i reckon anyway.
Yea maybe there is some Mr Big in the background, but i doubt it, looking at the others who got done none of them would have been telling Murray what to do thats for sure, they would have all been shit scared of him, so he was definitely the Mr Big of those who got caught.
I suppose it's possible there was some gangster type behind it all in the shadows but with the sentences dished out it would have be inconceivable that he wouldn't have been grassed up by someone looking for a lighter sentence.
If you look at the case there is no reason why they would have needed any real heavyweight gangster types involved, the inside man was connected to one of the robbers, so any info needed for the robbery came from him. Also had it been set up by a top gangster it would surely have involved experienced robbers and not a couple of hard men and some mates with no previous ...

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I know mate but I dont think Lee Murray is capable of hiding the money.

Setting up the actual hit maybe, but being able to get that amount of money off the radar id say would be too hard for Murray...never know tho.

Who will play lee in the movie?

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northbankbren wrote:
I know mate but I dont think Lee Murray is capable of hiding the money.

Setting up the actual hit maybe, but being able to get that amount of money off the radar id say would be too hard for Murray...never know tho.
He could pay someone to do that, remember he wasn't exactly a priest before hand, i'm sure he had plenty of contacts.

As i say the thing that convinces me he was in charge is that there was no professional robbers among the crew, if you were a gangster setting a job like that up for that kind of money, would you want a load of first timers doing it..i wouldn't of thought so..
Who will play lee in the movie?
I think it's Time Warner have the rights..so knowing the yanks they will probably take the story and set in New York or something.

If not it will be some donut like Alex Reid if it is set here

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If I was a gangster thats exactly what id want.

For the job to work you need to have as little attention as possible.

1st timer dont attract any attention. They are cheap. Dont know the details of the hit. Dont know exactly who they're working for. Just want the money. for such a big job they'll be guarenteed even if they're caught when they come out they'll be sorted financially.

I think Murray was the main fall guy. I reckon he was paid to plan and pull off the deal and was financed to do so.

Murray would no way have the finances to plan and pull off such a hit, he had to have been funded.

This was a massive job. And quite frankly Murray isnt intelligent enough to be the main man in quite frankly a successful job.

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northbankbren wrote:If I was a gangster thats exactly what id want.

For the job to work you need to have as little attention as possible.

1st timer dont attract any attention. They are cheap. Dont know the details of the hit. Dont know exactly who they're working for. Just want the money. for such a big job they'll be guarenteed even if they're caught when they come out they'll be sorted financially.

I think Murray was the main fall guy. I reckon he was paid to plan and pull off the deal and was financed to do so.

Murray would no way have the finances to plan and pull off such a hit, he had to have been funded.

This was a massive job. And quite frankly Murray isnt intelligent enough to be the main man in quite frankly a successful job.
Yea true all the things you say about first timers but i just don't believe any top criminal financing a job would have taken the chance with so many unknown quantities with this kind of money at stake..

I don't think they would have needed any great finances to pull the job, certainly not more than Murray could muster, from what i have read the guy was living in a big house and driving ferrari's and the like before he did this job..
I think your giving them too much credit for how much intelligence was needed to pull this job off, it was more about balls than brains..

They had a guy inside who gave them all the info necessary, they kidnapped the managers family and made him take them inside, in disguise dressed as police, tied everyone up, took the money went to an associates house sorted the cash out...
Once they had the inside guy it didn't take a genius to work the rest out, i'm sure between the half dozen or so of them they could of came up with the plan..

When you watch the documentary about it, it's shocking how straightforward it was considering the vast amount of money and what was even more shocking is there was another 150m they left in there because they didn't have enough room for it..

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Thats my point Lee Murray was in charge of the easy part of the job, stealing the cash.

Laundering the money and making it legit is the hard part of the job, which is probably still in the process of taking place.

This is the main objective of the job and all the jobs these guys pull, not the actual robbery/drug deal/arms deal. Murray in my opinion was close to bottom of the food chain. Was willing to pull a massive risk job for a massive return, as were the rest.

As for letting 1st timers pull the job, of course they would there is no paper trail. the job is probably passed down 20 times before it reaches the guy/guys who does it (whatever it is). Its organised crime, why do you think its got to the extent of guys selling dvds in pubs, its money laundering on a whole different level.

Did you ever hear a Lee Murray interview?

There is no way Lee Murray could sort of the laundering of £53million quid.

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Well i suppose you could be right we will never know...

But i think you are giving the whole thing far too much credit for the complexity involved ..

Twenty plus million has been recovered from those that were caught in this country, the money was found in houses,garages cars all sorts of places..so that tells you that the money was divided up after the job and they all had their own share to hide spend or launder as they wished..
I don't see there being some Mr Big in the back ground waiting to launder 53m in some grandiose scheme otherwise they would have never found that much loose cash with the individuals caught.

Murray himself is known to have bought a house in morocco for 1.5m not long after the job, so that means he had already gotten that much out of the country, so you can guarantee he has probably got all his share out the country. So no need for any special laundering, that money will be tucked away in investments and bank accounts in Morocco, in other peoples names no doubt, just in case the insurance companies come a calling looking for payback....which is highly unlikely in Morocco..

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