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at the grove last night :shock:




who do arsenal think they are fooling :roll:

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Post by QuartzGooner »

They are not trying to fool anyone.
That is the amount of seats sold, regardless if anyone turns up to sit in them.

It has to be published for tax reasons.
20 years ago clubs would publish an attendance figure below the real one, to avoid paying tax on all the receipts, so the taxman clamped down on it.

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Post by Robsy »

Boring.

Everyone knows they base the attendence on seats sold rather than the turnstile. So season ticket holders who don't turn up get counted.

Why act surprised?

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Post by Irish Gooner »

The question is, why do they do it.

Its makes the our club look like wankers, although they are quite good at that.

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Post by TheCook »

I am continually fascinated by the obsession this forum has with attendance figures.

It has been clearly stated on many, many occasions, that the figures are officially based on tickets sold.

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Post by Louder »

Didn't someone clear up the reasons for attendance figures in another thread.

And anyway, who cares. Do you feel as though they are lying to you personally ?

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Post by JMascis666 »

It would fasinating to know the actual number that went through the turnstiles per game as well as the offical figure.

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Post by mikeyb772001 »

QuartzGooner wrote:They are not trying to fool anyone.
That is the amount of seats sold, regardless if anyone turns up to sit in them.

It has to be published for tax reasons.
20 years ago clubs would publish an attendance figure below the real one, to avoid paying tax on all the receipts, so the taxman clamped down on it.

I remember that back in the standing northbank. Some weeks it was heaving and teh attaendance would be lower than the week before!!!

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Post by RoscommonGooner »

TheCook wrote:I am continually fascinated by the obsession this forum has with attendance figures.

It has been clearly stated on many, many occasions, that the figures are officially based on tickets sold.
One example is the Barca game- SOLD OUT
Stoke-SOLD OUT

Yet the official attendance at Stoke is higher that Barca. They expect us to believe that Stoke brought more than Barca to the Grove? This is just another in a long line of examples of how the people running the club take us for mugs
Louder wrote:Didn't someone clear up the reasons for attendance figures in another thread.

And anyway, who cares. Do you feel as though they are lying to you personally ?
As some one said on another thread said, this reminds me of the Simpsons episode

The club is good
The club is great………

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RoscommonGooner wrote:
TheCook wrote:I am continually fascinated by the obsession this forum has with attendance figures.

It has been clearly stated on many, many occasions, that the figures are officially based on tickets sold.
One example is the Barca game- SOLD OUT
Stoke-SOLD OUT

Yet the official attendance at Stoke is higher that Barca. They expect us to believe that Stoke brought more than Barca to the Grove? This is just another in a long line of examples of how the people running the club take us for mugs
Louder wrote:Didn't someone clear up the reasons for attendance figures in another thread.

And anyway, who cares. Do you feel as though they are lying to you personally ?
As some one said on another thread said, this reminds me of the Simpsons episode

The club is good
The club is great………
:lol: :lol:

Just to add to this:

I think it would be interesting to know how many people actually turn up, rather than how many tickets are sold.

Or both!



:lol:

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Post by REB »

TheCook wrote:I am continually fascinated by the obsession this forum has with attendance figures.

It has been clearly stated on many, many occasions, that the figures are officially based on tickets sold.
not an obsession but i do find it very strange that they announce the wrong attendance,
fair enough on the tickets sold and i can understand a lot of people with season tickets cant make a midweek game but it does make us look stupid when it is announced that the attendance is 60000 when it is clearly not and surely attendance is the key word here and not sold.

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RoscommonGooner wrote:One example is the Barca game- SOLD OUT
Stoke-SOLD OUT


Yet the official attendance at Stoke is higher that Barca. They expect us to believe that Stoke brought more than Barca to the Grove? This is just another in a long line of examples of how the people running the club take us for mugs
Why would the club want to take us for mugs on such a pointless thing, though? - I don't get your logic.

Aren't CL games always slightly reduced? - I thought less tickets were actually sold as there's daft UEFA rules about how close fans can be to advertising boards, increased rows of seats inbetween sets of supporters, etc. therefore it makes complete sense that the attendance vs. Stoke would be slightly up on Barca.

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g88ner wrote:
RoscommonGooner wrote:One example is the Barca game- SOLD OUT
Stoke-SOLD OUT


Yet the official attendance at Stoke is higher that Barca. They expect us to believe that Stoke brought more than Barca to the Grove? This is just another in a long line of examples of how the people running the club take us for mugs
Why would the club want to take us for mugs on such a pointless thing, though? - I don't get your logic.

Aren't CL games always slightly reduced? - I thought less tickets were actually sold as there's daft UEFA rules about how close fans can be to advertising boards, etc. therefore it makes complete sense that the attendance vs. Stoke would be slightly up on Barca.
I didn't think that was the case re reduction of capacity, as I thought the stadium was designed to take account of these requirements for European games.

I didn't see any empty rows at the Barcelona game - but the reduced "attendance" figure may be due UEFA being *word censored*.

8)

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RoscommonGooner wrote:
TheCook wrote:I am continually fascinated by the obsession this forum has with attendance figures.

It has been clearly stated on many, many occasions, that the figures are officially based on tickets sold.
One example is the Barca game- SOLD OUT
Stoke-SOLD OUT

Yet the official attendance at Stoke is higher that Barca. They expect us to believe that Stoke brought more than Barca to the Grove? This is just another in a long line of examples of how the people running the club take us for mugs
Louder wrote:Didn't someone clear up the reasons for attendance figures in another thread.

And anyway, who cares. Do you feel as though they are lying to you personally ?
As some one said on another thread said, this reminds me of the Simpsons episode

The club is good
The club is great………
Firstly Barcelona's away support is pretty non existant even in Spain, fans in spain don't really do away matches.

Secondly, why the hell do you think the club would lie to us about something so trivial as attendance figures?

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marcengels wrote:
g88ner wrote:
RoscommonGooner wrote:One example is the Barca game- SOLD OUT
Stoke-SOLD OUT


Yet the official attendance at Stoke is higher that Barca. They expect us to believe that Stoke brought more than Barca to the Grove? This is just another in a long line of examples of how the people running the club take us for mugs
Why would the club want to take us for mugs on such a pointless thing, though? - I don't get your logic.

Aren't CL games always slightly reduced? - I thought less tickets were actually sold as there's daft UEFA rules about how close fans can be to advertising boards, etc. therefore it makes complete sense that the attendance vs. Stoke would be slightly up on Barca.
I didn't think that was the case re reduction of capacity, as I thought the stadium was designed to take account of these requirements for European games.

I didn't see any empty rows at the Barcelona game - but the reduced "attendance" figure may be due UEFA being c**ts.

8)
Aren't there increased number or rows inbetween home and away fans? and stuff like that. (I don't tend to notice these things at the time :oops: :lol: )

There'll be a logical explanation, I'm sure.

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