Assisted Suicide

Eboue-Why? · Post by **Eboue-Why?** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:14 pm

Deep subject I know but thought I'd ask if anybody watched that programme the other night on BBC about the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland? Possibly one of the most surreal programmes I've ever seen. If you didn't watch it and you've got an hour to spare then I'd recommend you have a look on the BBCi player. It really was fascinating stuff and basically followed a couple of people who were ill and who wanted to end it all.
Having watched it I'm all for people having a choice to end it all if they're seriously ill.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:45 pm

Eboue-Why? wrote:Deep subject I know but thought I'd ask if anybody watched that programme the other night on BBC about the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland? Possibly one of the most surreal programmes I've ever seen. If you didn't watch it and you've got an hour to spare then I'd recommend you have a look on the BBCi player. It really was fascinating stuff and basically followed a couple of people who were ill and who wanted to end it all.
Having watched it I'm all for people having a choice to end it all if they're seriously ill.

I agree, didn't see the programme but fully support voluntary and regulated euthanasia

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:14 pm

I totally agree that people should have the right to end their lives before Mother Nature does it for them.

What is the point of keeping people alive, and in pain/distress?

I've had a great life. I would have no complaints if I died tomorrow.

I do NOT want to be kept alive by well-meaning medical people.

I do NOT want to spend ten years in a nursing home having my arse wiped for me.

Cheerful subject, huh?

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:55 pm

olgitgooner wrote:I totally agree that people should have the right to end their lives before Mother Nature does it for them.

What is the point of keeping people alive, and in pain/distress?

I've had a great life. I would have no complaints if I died tomorrow.

I do NOT want to be kept alive by well-meaning medical people.

I do NOT want to spend ten years in a nursing home having my arse wiped for me.

Cheerful subject, huh?

Exactly.

If I can't play sport, talk with my mates, eat solid food, shag, relieve myself, if I'm sitting here with half a brain as a vegetable, thank you very much Doc, flick the switch to 'off' please.

Henry Norris 1913 · Post by **Henry Norris 1913** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:06 pm

I've had a great life. I would have no complaints if I died tomorrow.

whats stopping you?

don't die

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:47 am

could of done with a dose of euthanasia last season, watching some games last season was like dying of slow death

away to Stoke summed it up

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:49 pm

Watched recording of it today. Very painful viewing.

The most f*cked up thing for me is that having to go to Switzerland under their own steam means that the poor brave bast*rds have to end their lives so much sooner than they would if the same thing could happen here.

And also so much nicer to be able to die in a hospice or in your own home than in the Dignitas house which, due to regulations, is on an industrial estate.....

The sooner we change the law to do it here the better!

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:00 pm

MK Gould wrote:Watched recording of it today. Very painful viewing.

The most f*cked up thing for me is that having to go to Switzerland under their own steam means that the poor brave bast*rds have to end their lives so much sooner than they would if the same thing could happen here.

And also so much nicer to be able to die in a hospice or in your own home than in the Dignitas house which, due to regulations, is on an industrial estate.....

The sooner we change the law to do it here the better!

+100

A sad, sad state of affairs, having watched as my favourite aunty gradually 'disappeared' and become an empty helpless shell, all in a matter of months - someone who once was so full of life, laughter, passion, belief and tenacity..it nearly broke her husband, son and daughter to have to stand by and watch....I would sit and tell her stories of our (the family's past etc) and it was as if the light of who she truly was had left...broke my heart.

I honestly believe no government or any other (so calle) official body/person etc has the right to say when we can or cannot die.

Eventually the law on this will be changed - It needs a real ground swell of opinion, and as more and more people and families and communities experience it first hand, then eventually officialdom will have to do what is morally and ethically right

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:00 pm

OOOPS DOUBLE POST.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:26 pm

Very difficult subject.

Cases on record of people in semi comatose states who could just about respond to people talking to them, but were almost paralysed.
One person was able to squeeze someone's hand once for yes, twice for no etc.

Defiantly wanted to stay alive when asked, despite being in such a poor condition.

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:55 pm

where can i get my hands on some of this shit, the wife has been doing my head in for the last year, about time to finish off the miserable old bitch

Eboue-Why? · Post by **Eboue-Why?** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:41 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:Very difficult subject.

Cases on record of people in semi comatose states who could just about respond to people talking to them, but were almost paralysed.
One person was able to squeeze someone's hand once for yes, twice for no etc.

Defiantly wanted to stay alive when asked, despite being in such a poor condition.

But that's the point I suppose. They decided they wanted to stay alive but if they had wanted to die there is no outlet for them here.

If I became inflicted with something like Motor Neurone then I'd be off to Switzerland like a shot

slag · Post by **slag** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:22 pm

be a lot cheaper to let people buy guns then you can do yourself in at home rather than all this hassle of flying to switzerland, checking in online, getting to the airport hours early and all that hassle

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:47 pm

OneBardGooner wrote:
MK Gould wrote:Watched recording of it today. Very painful viewing.

The most f*cked up thing for me is that having to go to Switzerland under their own steam means that the poor brave bast*rds have to end their lives so much sooner than they would if the same thing could happen here.

And also so much nicer to be able to die in a hospice or in your own home than in the Dignitas house which, due to regulations, is on an industrial estate.....

The sooner we change the law to do it here the better!
+100

A sad, sad state of affairs, having watched as my favourite aunty gradually 'disappeared' and become an empty helpless shell, all in a matter of months - someone who once was so full of life, laughter, passion, belief and tenacity..it nearly broke her husband, son and daughter to have to stand by and watch....I would sit and tell her stories of our (the family's past etc) and it was as if the light of who she truly was had left...broke my heart.

I honestly believe no government or any other (so calle) official body/person etc has the right to say when we can or cannot die.

Eventually the law on this will be changed - It needs a real ground swell of opinion, and as more and more people and families and communities experience it first hand, then eventually officialdom will have to do what is morally and ethically right

That's a big point for me. It isn't about the right to choose between life and death. We're all going to die and people with dementia, motor neurone disease etc are probably going to die sooner anyway. The question is just about the right to choose when.....

hugh jardon · Post by **hugh jardon** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:10 pm

What about those who jump in front of trains? Is that deemed acceptable? How about the poor train drivers who are forever scarred with horrific images of blood and guts splattered all over their windscreens for the rest of their lives and often unable to return to driving duties?