As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
i watch northern ireland and england last night and while both games were entertaining enough the stantard on show was crap,, i can understand the celtic nations as they are all small countrys but england are a big let down
big time charlies who believe there own hype
spain passed the ball like arsenal do while croatia looked so comfortable on the ball while england looked afraid to hold on to it,
lets face facts from an arsenal point of view,, how many of players from the british isles and ireland would get a look in at the grove,, some might but would they be able to play the arsenal way
rebel why dont u try to change drinmking culture with footbal, instead loving the beer and heating the ball, change it to loving the ball and heating the beer. :lol:
KAQAK wrote:rebel why dont u try to change drinmking culture with footbal, instead loving the beer and heating the ball, change it to loving the ball and heating the beer.
sorry KAQAK cant ever happen,,
when we are babies its guinness that gets put in our bottles and not milk
KAQAK wrote:rebel why dont u try to change drinmking culture with footbal, instead loving the beer and heating the ball, change it to loving the ball and heating the beer.
sorry KAQAK cant ever happen,,
when we are babies its guinness that gets put in our bottles and not milk
That's why there's a creamy white head on the top of guinness - it's to fool the baby into believing it's milk!
You shouldn't criticize Northern Ireland players; they lost to a much more superior team only 1-0 and beat Spain at home 3-2. They've improved a lot since that Euro 2004 qualifying when they couldn't score a single goal. I don't think you can class them as big-time Charlies
Also Healy made a record by scoring the most goals ever in European Championship qualification
Fair play to Healy, he's done really well to beat the record and it really pains me to see the Scots and the Irish show more pride and bottle than us, really does..
Its a whole different argument but I think instead of the powers in our national game blaming the foreigners, making excuses for why we're so abject we should take a long look at ourselves from the grass roots up and aspire to play the football some of these other countries play.
We have the resources, the money, the interest, but its easier to blame the foreign players and managers than address the problem head on, and nothing will change until we do..
Well this is the problem with English players in the eyes of Le Boss. It isn't necessarily that they don't have the talent as I'm pretty sure players like Bentley and Pennant could have made something of themselves at the Arse if they really wanted it, but that is the point; they weren't willing to work for it. As long as at the end of the week, they got their big pay cheque and could go out and shag some tart from the local Weatherspoon's at the weekend, they were happy. Arsene has built his team around a whole culture which applies on the pitch, but just as importantly, off the pitch. While people like Pennant are going out getting arrested and players like Bentley are giving it large about which car they've just bought (I met him when he still played for us; he was/is a right arrogant sod) players like Cesc are more willing to get their heads down, work hard and subscribe to the ethos of the team.
For this reason, I'm not surprised to see that our youth set up has loads of English talent in there as Wenger chooses to target young talent who are yet to be corrupted (as over the top as it sounds) by the WAG lifestyle, so that the can instill in them a firm moral base from which they can build on and grow as players. For that reason, we're much better off without wankers like Pennant and Bentley as we'd just be compromising not only the raw talent in the side, but also the team work ethic which is so important, especially in this generation of players that we have.
Why oh why when we train young kids in England do we play that only 3 touches thing? Nothing creates 'grenade' football better than this
It goes like this player gets ball come to him - touch 1
player brings it under control - touch 2
oh fuck gotta get rid of it - touch 3
ball ends up going somewhere in the vacinity of a team mate and see above.
A young player who keeps the ball for more than 5 secs is tagged with being a 'ballhog' as if it was something akin to being a sex offender.
In my book no player should ever pass the ball until it is constructive to do so - run at the player and take him on for fuck sake.
rebel why dont u try to change drinmking culture with footbal, instead loving the beer and heating the ball, change it to loving the ball and heating the beer.
I know that John Major once cited warm beer in his idyllic view of England but I wouldn't consider heating it - it would take like piss.
As for heating the ball - would lead to players treating it like a hot potato.
Cus Geezer wrote:Why oh why when we train young kids in England do we play that only 3 touches thing? Nothing creates 'grenade' football better than this
It goes like this player gets ball come to him - touch 1
player brings it under control - touch 2
oh fuck gotta get rid of it - touch 3
tonysaunders wrote:Well this is the problem with English players in the eyes of Le Boss. It isn't necessarily that they don't have the talent as I'm pretty sure players like Bentley and Pennant could have made something of themselves at the Arse if they really wanted it, but that is the point; they weren't willing to work for it. As long as at the end of the week, they got their big pay cheque and could go out and shag some tart from the local Weatherspoon's at the weekend, they were happy. Arsene has built his team around a whole culture which applies on the pitch, but just as importantly, off the pitch. While people like Pennant are going out getting arrested and players like Bentley are giving it large about which car they've just bought (I met him when he still played for us; he was/is a right arrogant sod) players like Cesc are more willing to get their heads down, work hard and subscribe to the ethos of the team.
For this reason, I'm not surprised to see that our youth set up has loads of English talent in there as Wenger chooses to target young talent who are yet to be corrupted (as over the top as it sounds) by the WAG lifestyle, so that the can instill in them a firm moral base from which they can build on and grow as players. For that reason, we're much better off without wankers like Pennant and Bentley as we'd just be compromising not only the raw talent in the side, but also the team work ethic which is so important, especially in this generation of players that we have.
Bentley and Pennant were exactly the players I was considering when I thought about the problems that AW has encountered with some British players since he arrived at Arsenal. Well put Tony.
In addition, when AW arrived we had Paul Merson (recovering alcoholic) and John Hartson (had drink-related incidents).
These players are very young and one cannot expect complete maturity in teenagers. But they should understand from a young age that they are endowed with skills that may allow them to become professional people - with which comes great reward and great responsibility. This is something that some of these young guys don't understand - the sacrifice that they have to make if they want the reward and recognition.
I assume from the tone of this thread that noone is supporting the home nations tournament (taking over from the Celtic Cup). Even Gordon Brown is supporting it
I think I would if there was a rule saying the average age of the players on the pitch is not over 25
It would give us some excuses for boozy weekends/bbqs next summer.
