For all You's Ganja, WackyBacky, Spliffters Out There!

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:38 am

For all You's Ganja, WackyBacky, Spliffters Out There!...and Hlebby of course!

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Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:22 pm

discussions in brazil are everywhere about legalizing marijuana. there have been numerous protests in the last year.

in uruguay the law project has already passed through the senate, now it's only missing the president's signature for weed to be legalized there

can't say if it would work in UK, but i'm sure it would bring many many benefits to brazil, like a drastic decrease in crime, corruption and violence, which are exactly our biggest problems. 80% of people in jail in brazil are there because of drug traffic. turn it into a business and those guys will have a job! not only that, but those 80% of the police force working on busting guys with 10g of weed in their pockets will have now free time to actually protect the people from who really is dangerous.

and it would allow me to smoke one every once in a while without worrying as well

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:23 pm

btw, 'dave's not here maaaaann...' is a classic

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee · Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:18 pm

i dont live there but i voted yes cuz it should be legal everywhere.

typing this as i'm packing a bowl.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:52 pm

I agree with legalising it even tho I don't smoke it anymore. It is ridiculous that the police spend so much time, effort and money arresting stoners for having a bit of weed on them (whatever the current illegal ammount is).

More people are killed directly and indirectly each year by alcohol and people using alcohol, yet it is legal because of the tax money it raises.

Simple, treat the ganja the same as the booze. Tax it. Let registered companies manufacture and sell it to a set (decent) standard and punish idiots that fuck around like driving a car when cataclysmically stoned.

I've never heard of anyone going out and stabbing or glassing someone when stoned off their tits. Have seen a few people suffocate in a bucket of KFC or explode from Pizza OD but dems de risks an' ting, jar.

Post by **flash gunner** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:00 pm

I have used it in my younger days, i was never a big user i always get more enjoyment out of drinking but my mates used to have some so i had some a few times.... Im totally against legalising it weed is responsible for a lot of cases of mental illness in young people - paranoia etc and also is often a stepping stone onto using harder stuff. Many heroin addicts started off using weed. I dont want to get slammed for sayng all this and im sure Hlebby, who uses a lot, has never been tempted to use hard drugs but there are some that will be and for that reason it shouldnt be legalised as far as im concerned.

I also agree alcool is responsible for more acts of violence and waste of hospital and police money but because alcohol is legal it doesnt mean weed should be too in theory both should be illegal but i for one is happy booze isnt

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:07 pm

weed kills....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt91R0X6RH4

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:15 pm

flash gunner wrote:I have used it in my younger days, i was never a big user i always get more enjoyment out of drinking but my mates used to have some so i had some a few times.... Im totally against legalising it weed is responsible for a lot of cases of mental illness in young people - paranoia etc and also is often a stepping stone onto using harder stuff. Many heroin addicts started off using weed. I dont want to get slammed for sayng all this and im sure Hlebby, who uses a lot, has never been tempted to use hard drugs but there are some that will be and for that reason it shouldnt be legalised as far as im concerned.

I also agree alcool is responsible for more acts of violence and waste of hospital and police money but because alcohol is legal it doesnt mean weed should be too in theory both should be illegal but i for one is happy booze isnt

Interesting points.... you are wrong of course but interesting all the same...

I agree that prolonged heavy use can lead to mental health problems in some but I would counter that those problems in alot of cases may already exist. There are studies for and against both ideas.

I don't agree that the ganja leads to harder drugs tho. In my youth myself and my mates (and nearly everyone I knew) smoked ALOT of weed and not a single one of us went onto anything harder because of it. A few of us used the Yayo but that was years later and unrelated (after most of us had given up the smoke and it was at a time when yayo was the new "in" drug in Dublin). I think people that end up addicted to yayo or smack are going to do so either way - they have addictive personality types.

Just my opinion, but it is right.

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:17 pm

Despite hanging around bars that revolved around rock music, I never got into drugs, tried weed a couple of times and also lsd, the weed made me sick and the lsd gave me bad trips, so after that I never took them again.
I was quite happy getting absolutely pished, on anything from beer to whiskey to mad liquors like green chartreuse.
I don't think it should be legalised as there is a lot of evidence to suggest it leads to taking stronger drugs.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:19 pm

goonersid wrote:Despite hanging around bars that revolved around rock music, I never got into drugs, tried weed a couple of times and also lsd, the weed made me sick and the lsd gave me bad trips, so after that I never took them again.
I was quite happy getting absolutely pished, on anything from beer to whiskey to mad liquors like green chartreuse.
I don't think it should be legalised as there is a lot of evidence to suggest it leads to taking stronger drugs.

Calm down, sid - it won't be made by Americans if it is legalised!

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:25 pm

This drug is far more powerful than it used to be. Skunk in particular.

People who use it in their teens run a very high risk of developing mental illness. Even the ones who are not regular users. The unlucky ones will have the rest of their lives effectively fucked up. This will be a fairly large chunk of our future adult population.

Bollocks to legalising it. That would make it easier for the kids to get hold of.

I have no problem with older people using it. I've had a go myself occassionally. But for fucks sake please discourage people from using it before they hit their early/mid twenties.

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:00 pm

funny how i hear people saying that weed takes you to harder drugs and that it can develop mental illness but i never heard of one son-of-a-bitch who could actually show me scientific material, like a credible article, that says any of those things.

by the way the mental illness stuff is ONLY IF YOU START SMOKING FREQUENTLY BEFORE YOUR TWENTIES. and fuck me, no one should be using ANY drugs (not even alcohol) before their 18s or something, so with weed it isn't different. I NEVER heard of any study proving that it can cause mental illness if you start on it as an adult.

sorry lads, but all you hear are stories on the telly and from 'a mate who had serious problems' and stuff like that. it's the north-american 'war on drugs' getting inside your head.

the only true reliable numbers i have is that weed never killed anyone of overdose in the history of mankind, and that for everyone who tries a cigarette, 30% of those will become dependent. with marijuana it's less than HALF of that. even alcohol causes more addiction than weed.

AND marijuana addiction is by far the easiest to control. how many people here smoked like idiots in the youth and then simply decided they were too old for that shit and moved on with their lives? that's absolutely normal and happens with many many people.

i never heard an argument against legalizing marijuana that is based on actual facts or scientific studies.

btw i've been smoking it for over 5 years and even though i've tried a few others, i don't use any other drugs other than weed, tobacco and alcohol neither have any intention on doing it. i have many many friends on exactly the same situation.

but i do intend to stop smoking tobacco as it is not good for my health.

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:10 pm

Plenty of info out there mate. This is just a piece from the Daily Mail....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ss-40.html

Have a good read.

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:19 pm

And......

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/teen ... 1103071676

for some firm information from a Harvard study.

Captain Fabregas · Post by **Captain Fabregas** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:20 pm

For all You's Ganja, WackyBacky, Spliffters Out There!

Should Da Weed Be Legalised in UK

For all You's Ganja, WackyBacky, Spliffters Out There!