Would a Bergkamp/Adams get free reign if in charge?

[northbankbren]

Saw a post on here yesterday I think, about a new manager. Poster mentioned that they wouldnt want Bergkamp as manager, because he didnt want him to ruin the legendary status he holds (or something along those lines).

It got me thinking. I personally would love someone like Bergkamp or Adams back at our club in some form. But as manager, what would be the expectation, and would they be given in essense a free reign by us fans because of their history at the club.

Im not old enough to have seen a former player take over at the club, was from the GG managerial era, so never saw him play for us. But know he wasnt the player Adams or Bergkamp were for example.

Lets say Bergkamp took over next summer. Doesnt spend much and we start stuggling in the league. The following summer we finish mid table.

Basically the question is, how long would he be backed by the fans? Because of who he is, would he be supported no matter what? How long would that support last? Lets put Adams in the same senario.

Id personally love to see either as manager at some point. But would a bad managerial run tarnish their name at the club. For me I'd just always remember what great players they were, but it would be sad if it went wrong wouldnt it. And Im not sure Id like to see that.

[Jumpers For Goalposts]

Sorry mate but this is a pointless question for many reasons.

1. Bergkamp can never manage a top team until he conquers his fear of flying. No way could he manage a team if he won't fly to European away matches.

2. Tony Adams was one of our greatest players but he is miles away from being able to manage a top European team.

3. We're stuck with Wenger for years to come. Our Board are self-serving greedy bastards and they appear to be supremely satisfied all the while Wenger keeps delivering profits.

Sorry to piss on your chips but I can't see either of these two taking over any time soon.

[QuartzGooner]

Regardless of when Wenger goes, he will go at some point.

Among former players currently in management and coaching who might be considered for the next manager's job or even the job after that, are in my order of likelehood to get the job: Bould, Garde, Platt, Jensen or Adams.

I currently do not make any of them favourites when up against the possibilities of Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp or even David Moyes, but cannot rule any of them out.

Bergkamp's fear of flying rules him out in many opinions, but possibility he would be a coach?

I think a former player will get a little more leeway with the fans for sentimental reasons, probably a season's grace.

I think once in the job, a former player will get treated identically to any other candidate by the board.

[northbankbren]

jumpers, dont take the piss out of my chips, they need all the flavour they can get.

I dont expect either anytime soon, its an IF question. IF they took over, what kind of ride would they get from the fans if things didnt go to plan?

[Norfolk_Gooner1]

[frankbutcher]

They'd get leeway from some of the older fans, but we've now got so many plebs supporting us that they probably haven't heard of Adams, Bould, Keown etc.

[Rosie_titters]

Saw a post on here yesterday I think, about a new manager. Poster mentioned that they wouldnt want Bergkamp as manager, because he didnt want him to ruin the legendary status he holds (or something along those lines).

It got me thinking. I personally would love someone like Bergkamp or Adams back at our club in some form. But as manager, what would be the expectation, and would they be given in essense a free reign by us fans because of their history at the club.

Im not old enough to have seen a former player take over at the club, was from the GG managerial era, so never saw him play for us. But know he wasnt the player Adams or Bergkamp were for example.

Lets say Bergkamp took over next summer. Doesnt spend much and we start stuggling in the league. The following summer we finish mid table.

Basically the question is, how long would he be backed by the fans? Because of who he is, would he be supported no matter what? How long would that support last? Lets put Adams in the same senario.

Id personally love to see either as manager at some point. But would a bad managerial run tarnish their name at the club. For me I'd just always remember what great players they were, but it would be sad if it went wrong wouldnt it. And Im not sure Id like to see that.

it was me who said it, and i don't want any of our legends to manage our club. lets just remember them for all the good things they have done for our club and not to become a hate figure if things went tits up

[Norfolk_Gooner1]

[Rad]

Legends don't always make good managers e.g Brady, Bryan "man of the match" Robson, John Barnes, etc.

Some of the best managers were average or crap players e.g Ferguson, Wenger (of old), Shankly etc

Tony Adams is a legend at Arsenal but let's face facts he is managing a team who got beat one nil by Barnet in a pre-season friendly and couldn't win at Wycombe Wanderers.

[Percy Dalton]

Why is Tony Adams always trumpted as a good candidate to replace Wenger?



The man is a legend as a player but his managerial 'career' has seen him fail time and again and frankly the man now seems as mad as a box of frogs.

I am sure Adams would instill some of the Arsenal traditions into the players that have been lost over recent years but can you really see Tony Adams taking the club forward?

[frankbutcher]

Why is Tony Adams always trumpted as a good candidate to replace Wenger?



The man is a legend as a player but his managerial 'career' has seen him fail time and again and frankly the man now seems as mad as a box of frogs.

I am sure Adams would instill some of the Arsenal traditions into the players that have been lost over recent years but can you really see Tony Adams taking the club forward?

Adams could make it as an Arsenal coach, but no way as No.1.

[MM99]

Why is Tony Adams always trumpted as a good candidate to replace Wenger?



The man is a legend as a player but his managerial 'career' has seen him fail time and again and frankly the man now seems as mad as a box of frogs.

I am sure Adams would instill some of the Arsenal traditions into the players that have been lost over recent years but can you really see Tony Adams taking the club forward?

Quite the contrary. In this interview with the Guaridan he comes across as a man who knows what he wants to do and has a decent plan on achieving it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... azerbaijan

[Percy Dalton]

Why is Tony Adams always trumpted as a good candidate to replace Wenger?



The man is a legend as a player but his managerial 'career' has seen him fail time and again and frankly the man now seems as mad as a box of frogs.

I am sure Adams would instill some of the Arsenal traditions into the players that have been lost over recent years but can you really see Tony Adams taking the club forward?

Quite the contrary. In this interview with the Guaridan he comes across as a man who knows what he wants to do and has a decent plan on achieving it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... azerbaijan

I am sure he had decent plans at Portsmouth and Wycombe too and also appeared very knowledgeable in the written press.

Didn't do him a lot of good though hey!

[terry henry]

3. We're stuck with Wenger for years to come. Our Board are self-serving greedy bastards and they appear to be supremely satisfied all the while Wenger keeps delivering profits.

Will the profits keep coming in though. A lot of games aren't selling out now, and we still have crap commercial deals and those won't improve unless the performance of the team does.

[JakeN13]

The only former player I can see taking over in the next 20 years would be Bould, after working his way up from youth coach to possibly the next assistant and then eventually taking over as manager.

Or perhaps Remi Garde who seems to be doing well in France.