Hillsbrough Investigation

digger · Post by **digger** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:32 am

Am I the only person who doesn't really get what the scousers are trying to achieve here? Passing the blame onto a bunch of retired policemen and removing any element of blame from the hundreds of scousers who rushed the gates?

Anyone care to enlighten me? The press seem to be jizzing their pants over it.

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:41 am

The real culprits will get off scot free after this. It wasnt the police who turned up late and forced their way into Hillsbro, FFS they nearly caused a crush outside of the stadium if you see the video.... The police had no option but to open the gates or they would have been blamed for the deaths outside.

The tragedy is the people who died were the ones who entered the ground early and didnt force the gates, they were murdered by their own IMO. Justice for the 96 indeed.

This will be a whitewash now and many of the people blamed will be police who are now very old or passed away and everyone in Liverpool can carry on being victims.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:44 am

We will now have a few Mousers on here soon...

LDB · Post by **LDB** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:45 am

The scousers aren't blameless, If only fans with tickets showed up there wouldn't have been a problem. A mate of mine said he saw a couple of them trying to get through the E****** turnstiles without tickets a couple of years back. Funny how these things always seem to happen around them isnt it?

Im also interested to hear what "justice" is to them in this case? Acknowledgement that the police are solely to blame? Not buying it, unless people saw hundreds/thousands of police pile onto the terrace?

digger · Post by **digger** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:47 am

DB10GOONER wrote:We will now have a few Mousers on here soon...

Apologies, I'm not trying to stir things up, I genuinely have no idea what releasing classified police documents will achieve so would welcome a Scouser to provide an explaination which goes further than "We're trying to get justice for the 96" which is the same drivel they've been waffling for years.

How will these documents achieve justice?

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:50 am

LDB wrote:The scousers aren't blameless, If only fans with tickets showed up there wouldn't have been a problem. A mate of mine said he saw a couple of them trying to get through the E****** turnstiles without tickets a couple of years back. Funny how these things always seem to happen around them isnt it?

Im also interested to hear what "justice" is to them in this case? Acknowledgement that the police are solely to blame? Not buying it, unless people saw hundreds/thousands of police pile onto the terrace?

No-one involved that day is blameless the police arent but neither are the scousers and if they accept partial blame i think they would get more credibilty with many people.

Also any Liverpool fans storming gates a couple of years back at the Grove are/were taking the piss out of everyone who died that day

digger · Post by **digger** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:57 am

flash gunner wrote:Also any Liverpool fans storming gates a couple of years back at the Grove are/were taking the piss out of everyone who died that day

That wasn't a one off either, they did the same in Istanbul:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 717793.stm

The same in Athens:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -UEFA.html

Plus there are a bunch of Liverpool fans who seem to do it every week... google "liverpool"+"jibbing" and you'll see what I mean.

Herd · Post by **Herd** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:58 am

You Sun reading wankers !

There is a portion of blame to the mousers themselves but it is miniscule to the OB incompetence and downright belligerence of the Sheffield OB ,not to mention the stadium design !

I stand behind those who call for JUSTICE for those who died that day !

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:03 am

Herd wrote:You Sun reading wankers !

There is a portion of blame to the mousers themselves but it is miniscule to the OB incompetence and downright belligerence of the Sheffield OB ,not to mention the stadium design !

I stand behind those who call for JUSTICE for those who died that day !

Firstly im no Sun reader.

Secondly i totally agree with the bold part of your post and Liverpool fans have to take a partial part of the blame. As i say every Liverpool fan who tries to force their way into games without a ticket is shitting on the poor people who died that day

digger · Post by **digger** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:12 am

Herd wrote:You Sun reading wankers !

Personally, if I was going to read a comic full of rude in-jokes, I'd go the whole hog and read Viz

There is a portion of blame to the mousers themselves but it is miniscule to the OB incompetence and downright belligerence of the Sheffield OB ,not to mention the stadium design !

What will releasing the documents achieve? Will the cheif cuntstubble of SYP be on record saying "Quick, shove all the Mousers in this pen, I'm due a tea break in 15 minutes. Of course not. Stadium design at Hillsbrough appears to be standard for the time, if it was so obviously dangerous, wouldn't it be expected that fans show restraint while filling up pens?

I stand behind those who call for JUSTICE for those who died that day !

That's all I keep hearing!! What the fuck is this justice they so desperately want???? Someone to stand on a murder charge for it??

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:15 am

Herd wrote:You Sun reading wankers !

There is a portion of blame to the mousers themselves but it is miniscule to the OB incompetence and downright belligerence of the Sheffield OB ,not to mention the stadium design !

I stand behind those who call for JUSTICE for those who died that day !

Typical one dimensional over reaction from Rahim. If you don't think all the Mousers there that day are innocent and the Police totally to blame then you are a "Sun reader".

If you don't blindly support Wenger or make a valid criticism of a player/the board/or Wenger then you are a "Tarquin".

Rahim/Herd - Tenang! Anda bodoh! Tiada sucky untuk anda! Lelaki wanita pemandu bas!

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:19 am

Turning up late en masse without a ticket to try to get the gates opened to everyone, was a ploy used many times by the scousers.
The dirty bastards even tried it again in Athens, they are to blame for Hillsboro, end of.

And let's not forget they claim to be blameless for Heysel as well.
Fucking bindipping *word censored*.

Herd · Post by **Herd** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:27 am

DB you are one *word censored* and as usual you dont read ........i dont say that all mickeys were innocent that day did I !

As usual you put your own personal dislike of me outing u for being the malevolent dwarf that you undoubtedly are to continue your petty squabbles with me .

But like the Murphys I'm not bitter !

shu · Post by **shu** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:49 am

It will be interesting to see what the report says. Have the scousers in anyway admitted some fault to turning up and pushing every other fucker ? we all know they steam gates and always have done.

You can say the ground was dangerous and the police were at fault but if they had not opened the gate there would have been a crush outside.

What do they want , probably murder charges against the police and lots and lots of compensation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:56 am

digger wrote:
flash gunner wrote:Also any Liverpool fans storming gates a couple of years back at the Grove are/were taking the piss out of everyone who died that day
That wasn't a one off either, they did the same in Istanbul:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 717793.stm

The same in Athens:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -UEFA.html

Plus there are a bunch of Liverpool fans who seem to do it every week... google "liverpool"+"jibbing" and you'll see what I mean.

I know two Mouser ST holders well. Both sound lads. Play football with one and the other is a work colleague. Both were in Instanbul and Athens and were disgusted that many many of their fellow Mouser fans (for all their grievances about the terrible tragedy at Hillsborough) were still rushing the turnstiles and actually mugging each other for tickets. Both no longer go away with the Mousers.

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