Local Government Strike Wednesday 30th November

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:54 pm

anyone else on here work in Local Government and is striking on Wednesday 30th November, due to the Pension contributions

I am a non union member, do i have to strike - because i want to go in to work and not lose a days pay

will i get called a scab and bashed up on the picket line, for trying to get in to work

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:13 pm

You should be alright SCAB

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:02 am

Swap a rest day with someone who is striking.

Percy Dalton · Post by **Percy Dalton** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:10 pm

Local Government do work?

Well you learn something new every day!

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:19 pm

As you are a non union member, (scab)

You will have to go into work, if not then you are in breach of contract and the employer which will be in your case could be Powys or Ceredigion council will have the right to sack you for unauthorised absence. Given the current climate the bastards would jump at the chance to sack an employee to save money.

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:35 pm

They can't fill you in or call you a scab, as this is seen as bullying and Can get the persons sacked, they may not have to socialise with you or threaten or intimidate you in any way. However like I said to non union members was that we are fighting for your pension as well. Fortunately the fire brigade are not on strike this time so I dont have to worry, but to those who are going out the doors have my full support.

Henry Norris 1913 · Post by **Henry Norris 1913** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:47 pm

a strike?

and people wonder why our country is fucked

Post by **HashKads** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:11 pm

People that cross the picket line should be burned at the stake.

Post by **flash gunner** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:16 pm

I'm a union member

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:39 pm

storrmin571 wrote:As you are a non union member, (scab) You will have to go into work, if not then you are in breach of contract and the employer which will be in your case could be Powys or Ceredigion council will have the right to sack you for unauthorised absence. Given the current climate the bastards would jump at the chance to sack an employee to save money.

thank's stormin, i come under Ceredigion council, the reason i am not part of the union, because my wife who also worked for Ceredigion council got made redundant last month, after 10 years and i just can't afford it, also i haven't got LGPS pension - and at the moment can't really afford to lose a days pays

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:42 pm

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:a strike?

and people wonder why our country is fucked

get use to it Henry, Local government now, then the tube drivers, it will go on and on

i don't agree with striking but i think people have had enough

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 pm

kingjayson1 wrote:People that cross the picket line should be burned at the stake.

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:44 pm

Rosie_titters wrote:
storrmin571 wrote:As you are a non union member, (scab) You will have to go into work, if not then you are in breach of contract and the employer which will be in your case could be Powys or Ceredigion council will have the right to sack you for unauthorised absence. Given the current climate the bastards would jump at the chance to sack an employee to save money.

thank's stormin, i come under Ceredigion council, the reason i am not part of the union, because my wife who also worked for Ceredigion council got made redundant last month, after 10 years and i just can't afford it, also i haven't got LGPS pension - and at the moment can't really afford to lose a days pays

Just turn up as normal then, does everyone you work with know you are non union? As a union rep and I don't tend to like people who choose to work during strikes this bit will hurt and may be stating the obvious:-

Consult Ceredigion Councils bullying policy, check what their definition of bullying is, any thing you think may be against the policy ie said or done against you then make a note of it, times dates persons present etc - then get enough evidence together then take it to the boss, if no action taken the move up the line, end of day if you are forced out then you can pop up in an employment tribunal.

safcftm · Post by **safcftm** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:05 pm

Its a difficult one. On the one hand, if the union wins any concessions with regards to pensions etc, you'll happily accept them being incorporated into your contract, so in a way if you'll take the benefit then its a bit shit to not support the action, on the other hand however if you join in with the strike, you could presumably be disciplined for unauthorised absense and, if you were, the union wouldnt back you up (as you arent a member) so you could turn round and say "I'm not going to support your strike because if I get penalised you wont support me". I dont really think theres a right or wrong here.

As an aside, is it just me who doesnt feel masses of sympathy for the public sector workers since their pensions will still be better than those that us poor buggers in the private sector get (in the majority of cases)? Public sector employees will happily take wage/ benefit rises linked to the countries economic performance despite having negligible impact on it, and then complain when their pensions might be brought nearer to the level of the private sector ones. Not up on the ins and outs of this case if im honest, but as a general principle their pensions are too good anyway compared to private sector ones and there is far, far too much wastage in the public sector so cuts of one sort or another are blatantly required

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:02 pm

safcftm wrote:Its a difficult one. On the one hand, if the union wins any concessions with regards to pensions etc, you'll happily accept them being incorporated into your contract, so in a way if you'll take the benefit then its a bit shit to not support the action, on the other hand however if you join in with the strike, you could presumably be disciplined for unauthorised absense and, if you were, the union wouldnt back you up (as you arent a member) so you could turn round and say "I'm not going to support your strike because if I get penalised you wont support me". I dont really think theres a right or wrong here.

As an aside, is it just me who doesnt feel masses of sympathy for the public sector workers since their pensions will still be better than those that us poor buggers in the private sector get (in the majority of cases)? Public sector employees will happily take wage/ benefit rises linked to the countries economic performance despite having negligible impact on it, and then complain when their pensions might be brought nearer to the level of the private sector ones. Not up on the ins and outs of this case if im honest, but as a general principle their pensions are too good anyway compared to private sector ones and there is far, far too much wastage in the public sector so cuts of one sort or another are blatantly required

Perfectly summed up mate.

I tend to view most strikes as blackmail, rather than justified action to protect the oppressed.

Private sector workers would love to have public sectoresque pensions. Many of them (myself included) will have to work until they drop.

Also, can our country actually afford all these gold-plated pensions? Or are we another Greece waiting to happen. The Greeks have been allowed to retire on 90% of state pension at the age of fifty. Thereby spending money which isn't being earned. Somebody has to foot the bill.