Arsene's HT teamtalks and decisions from the bench...

[AJAAFC]

I've seen that players who have left the club in the past few seasons have suggested that AW does not actually say much in the dressing room at half-time. Now we don't know if that is true but I would love to know what actually goes on...

All we see from the sidelines during a game are the painful grimaces and *what can only be described* as the 'Penguin trying to fly' act!

There are some very painful stats associated with his reign and recently those are incredibly stark relevations about how good he is at thinking out a game and using tactics to change them:

We're the only team in the last few seasons to lose from a leading position on 85 minutes - today was the SECOND time - it's not happened to anyone else once - let alone twice.

As long as Steve Kean is a manager he won't give any other boss a goal lead TWICE and still win a game. (He did with Arsene)!

There are plenty of others....

[1989]

The way Senderos played today proves beyond doubt that Wenger doesn't coach defence. That was the same Senderos who looked like a donkey for us.

When we kept 10 consecutive clean sheets during that CL run in 2006 Senderos was impressive also and at the time Keown was our defensive coach. Coincidence? I think not.

Senderos is a good CB who was ruined by Wenger.

[armchair]

I've seen that players who have left the club in the past few seasons have suggested that AW does not actually say much in the dressing room at half-time. Now we don't know if that is true but I would love to know what actually goes on...

All we see from the sidelines during a game are the painful grimaces and *what can only be described* as the 'Penguin trying to fly' act!

There are some very painful stats associated with his reign and recently those are incredibly stark relevations about how good he is at thinking out a game and using tactics to change them:

We're the only team in the last few seasons to lose from a leading position on 85 minutes - today was the SECOND time - it's not happened to anyone else once - let alone twice.

As long as Steve Kean is a manager he won't give any other boss a goal lead TWICE and still win a game. (He did with Arsene)!

There are plenty of others....

Not a total surprise. Whats the others.....?

[SteveO 35]

I've seen that players who have left the club in the past few seasons have suggested that AW does not actually say much in the dressing room at half-time. Now we don't know if that is true but I would love to know what actually goes on...

All we see from the sidelines during a game are the painful grimaces and *what can only be described* as the 'Penguin trying to fly' act!

There are some very painful stats associated with his reign and recently those are incredibly stark relevations about how good he is at thinking out a game and using tactics to change them:

We're the only team in the last few seasons to lose from a leading position on 85 minutes - today was the SECOND time - it's not happened to anyone else once - let alone twice.

As long as Steve Kean is a manager he won't give any other boss a goal lead TWICE and still win a game. (He did with Arsene)!

There are plenty of others....

And yet we hear endlessly about the 'mental strength' aspect. As soon as Fulham equalised I knew they'd go on and win it. The old New Year bottle has well and truly gone, again. De ja vu. I wonder if we can blow a 5 goal lead this year......mind you 5 goals in game...nah, that belongs to 2004

[Revgoon89]

Didn't Fabregas say that in the run up to games they never watched videos of the opposition and studied them? Every game is the same tactic, bringing on the same players. it's like punching a brick wall in the same place hoping the weak spot is there. It wouldn't surprise me if Wenger didn't do much at half time.

[HashKads]

I've also heard when the team come in at half time, he lets them sit down and 'quietly reflect' for a while. If that is true, WTF?

Also, I think it was the Liverpool game last season when we went in behind and came out the 2nd half and won the game. After the game, Cesc said everybody was shocked how angry Wenger's teamtalk was at HT and it gave them the boost to go on and win the game.

The guy has lost his marbles.

[AJAAFC]

As much as I hate that fraternity of Allardyce, Brown, Coyle etc - can you imagine them being given such a high profile job and paying such little attention to detail.

THESE things win matches and keep hold of points - THESE things are the difference between 10-15 points (at least) per season.

As for those asking for other examples of UNIQUE and UNWANTED records - the 4-4 at Newcastle broke all kinds of them.

AND I ask you this - how many of the 91 other managers in the PL and FL at the moment would have drawn and dropped points at St James Park if they were zoomed into that dugout once the sending off occured. NOT ONE is my answer!

[Dan_85]

Wenger's team talks are basically "Go out & play, keep hold of the ball". I could give them & I wouldn't charge 7m a year for the privilege. I'd do it for half that...

[Henry Norris 1913]

the simple fact is wenger doesn't even do his job anymore , but we're supposed to take it because of what he did for us from 96-05. apparently a manager cannot go downhill over time and if your successful once the only thing stopping you from being successful again are "special circumstances".

thank god this man can get away with anything now. the apathetic, noveu-riche fans that fill out the grove to watch some overpaid foreigners pass the ball around the pitch so nicely would gladly keep him at the club until his corpse fully rotted away.

[brazilianGOONER]

i think it's stupid to judge his teamtalks since we have no clue as to what he does there. we're presuming, what if our players are even worse than they are (bigger pussies) but it's actually wenger's approach that makes them decent at times? more players leave our club and end up worse than they were here than the opposite. i actually think he's good at making guys like hleb, who was shite almost everywhere else, look half decent.

i know it's a difficult idea to accept that he might be good at something at this time when he looks like a *word censored*, but we can't forget he has his merits. that's another tendency of mankind that i don't like - extremism. the fact that he's been a shit manager for the last 6 years (even though we never slipped out of top 4 yet) does not mean he can't do one or two things well.

however, his substitution decisions on a match are absolutely ridiculous. if a player is having a nightmare from the first minute and we have an obvious replacement on the bench for technical and tactical reasons, he still won't make the change until his favourite 70th minute. that is something that pisses me off completely.

you see guys like mourinho remove people at half time and change a match because of those types of actions - wenger never did and never will do those. that time he subbed eboué on and then subbed him off against wigan left me really surprised - usually he'd left him on until he gifted a couple of goals to the opposition.

[AJAAFC]

i think it's stupid to judge his teamtalks since we have no clue as to what he does there.

Yes we do - we've seen countless interviews with past players from the late 90's to the present day saying he doesn't mention specific opposition players or traits and does not have a gameplan.

[brazilianGOONER]

i think it's stupid to judge his teamtalks since we have no clue as to what he does there.

Yes we do - we've seen countless interviews with past players from the late 90's to the present day saying he doesn't mention specific opposition players or traits and does not have a gameplan.

no, we never saw a player say he does not have a gameplan.

i remember many players saying he asks players to focus on their abilities, and play using their instincts, indeed rather then "run right, then turn left, then cross the ball".

it does not work with the current group of shit players, but when he formed a team made of intelligent and gifted players, that approach was enough to remain an entire premier league season unbeaten, something that the genius mourinho with all the money in the world couldn't do. no mourinho's chelsea team was better than the invincibles imo.

i know this approach doesn't work with the current shower of shit, but i think that his fail is on not recruiting the necessary quality players, not on his approach as to how they should play the game.

we all say he knows shit about tactics, but i never saw a team counter attacking as deadly as wenger's team from 2000 to 2005. you don't do that by simple tossing a few players on the pitch and telling them to do whatever they want, no matter how gifted they are.

and i don't think rhinus mitchel or mourinho could make alex song or abou diaby play like they actually had a brain.

[AJAAFC]

i think it's stupid to judge his teamtalks since we have no clue as to what he does there.

Yes we do - we've seen countless interviews with past players from the late 90's to the present day saying he doesn't mention specific opposition players or traits and does not have a gameplan.

no, we never saw a player say he does not have a gameplan.

i remember many players saying he asks players to focus on their abilities, and play using their instincts, indeed rather then "run right, then turn left, then cross the ball".

it does not work with the current group of shit players, but when he formed a team made of intelligent and gifted players, that approach was enough to remain an entire premier league season unbeaten, something that the genius mourinho with all the money in the world couldn't do. no mourinho's chelsea team was better than the invincibles imo.

i know this approach doesn't work with the current shower of shit, but i think that his fail is on not recruiting the necessary quality players, not on his approach as to how they should play the game.

we all say he knows shit about tactics, but i never saw a team counter attacking as deadly as wenger's team from 2000 to 2005. you don't do that by simple tossing a few players on the pitch and telling them to do whatever they want, no matter how gifted they are.

and i don't think rhinus mitchel or mourinho could make alex song or abou diaby play like they actually had a brain.

It's silly to compare The Invincibles - as much as we all loved it - IT WAS a fluke / a freak occurence. It should have been over at home to Portsmouth when Bobby dived.

Mourinho didn't do it but so what - he'd have won the league more times since the late 90's if he'd have been in charge of the club.

[armchair]

i think it's stupid to judge his teamtalks since we have no clue as to what he does there.

Yes we do - we've seen countless interviews with past players from the late 90's to the present day saying he doesn't mention specific opposition players or traits and does not have a gameplan.

no, we never saw a player say he does not have a gameplan.

i remember many players saying he asks players to focus on their abilities, and play using their instincts, indeed rather then "run right, then turn left, then cross the ball".

it does not work with the current group of shit players, but when he formed a team made of intelligent and gifted players, that approach was enough to remain an entire premier league season unbeaten, something that the genius mourinho with all the money in the world couldn't do. no mourinho's chelsea team was better than the invincibles imo.

i know this approach doesn't work with the current shower of shit, but i think that his fail is on not recruiting the necessary quality players, not on his approach as to how they should play the game.

we all say he knows shit about tactics, but i never saw a team counter attacking as deadly as wenger's team from 2000 to 2005. you don't do that by simple tossing a few players on the pitch and telling them to do whatever they want, no matter how gifted they are.

and i don't think rhinus mitchel or mourinho could make alex song or abou diaby play like they actually had a brain.

Asking Bentdner to "focus on his ability" Now thats a good one!

[brazilianGOONER]

i think it's stupid to judge his teamtalks since we have no clue as to what he does there.

Yes we do - we've seen countless interviews with past players from the late 90's to the present day saying he doesn't mention specific opposition players or traits and does not have a gameplan.

no, we never saw a player say he does not have a gameplan.

i remember many players saying he asks players to focus on their abilities, and play using their instincts, indeed rather then "run right, then turn left, then cross the ball".

it does not work with the current group of shit players, but when he formed a team made of intelligent and gifted players, that approach was enough to remain an entire premier league season unbeaten, something that the genius mourinho with all the money in the world couldn't do. no mourinho's chelsea team was better than the invincibles imo.

i know this approach doesn't work with the current shower of shit, but i think that his fail is on not recruiting the necessary quality players, not on his approach as to how they should play the game.

we all say he knows shit about tactics, but i never saw a team counter attacking as deadly as wenger's team from 2000 to 2005. you don't do that by simple tossing a few players on the pitch and telling them to do whatever they want, no matter how gifted they are.

and i don't think rhinus mitchel or mourinho could make alex song or abou diaby play like they actually had a brain.

It's silly to compare The Invincibles - as much as we all loved it - IT WAS a fluke / a freak occurence. It should have been over at home to Portsmouth when Bobby dived.

Mourinho didn't do it but so what - he'd have won the league more times since the late 90's if he'd have been in charge of the club.

you're presuming and presuming... you don't know mate, it's simple as that! would mourinho win more? i don't know! can mourinho win something without any money? NO ONE in the world knows that mate! it's all if's!

the invincibles were not a fluke - they were a fantastic team, a marvelous team that few managers in the world could ever recreate. not losing a single match is a prove of how strong they were mentally and how much wenger managed to help them keep their confidence up and when we had the odd bad result (in cups and europe) we instantly bounced back.

we had a wonderful captain, a great squad, and a man who could rule them.