Will RVP be considered a great when he leaves in the summer?

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Will RVP be considered a great when he leaves?

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Will RVP be considered a great when he leaves in the summer?

Post by ElliotGooner »

On a positive note after today's pathetic shambles, RVP scored yet again taking his tally to 118 in Arsenal colors and just 2 short of DB10. Yes, he missed a sitter but he is carrying one of the poorest Arsenal teams in recent memory and without his goals this season we would be well and truly fucked.

Come the summer and we finish 5th (being optimistic with this squad) can you blame him for not wanting to be in a side managed by Wenger and playing with the likes of walnut and roshitty. He is clearly a world class talent like Cesc but his chance of winning trophies with us are nil. And without Champs League football surely he wont stick around?

In my mind he owes the club for sticking with him through his spells of horrific injuries and half missed season but I sadly wont be surprised to see him leave and more worryingly I cant actually blame him for wanting to do so!
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Post by DarylAFC »

I won't blame him for leaving and, if he leaves, then I will still consider him a great.

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Post by admvideogames »

He deserves better. Wenger really fucked him off today, because, like us, he cares. Appalling from the GIC yet again. RVP has done as much as he can in this team.

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Post by SCREAM AIM FIRE »

His stats speak for them self, if he was at a club that knew how to treat injured players and knew how to have players warm up and down before and after games/training he would probably be in the 200's by now

its no coincidence or down to any kind of bad luck that henry comes back and after 1 game he gets injured :lol:

So I'd have to say yes, no matter how held back he has been he has still been great.

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Post by hugh jardon »

Over 100 Arsenal goals? Stupid question.

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Post by Babatunde »

A more pertinent question would be: when RVP leaves for a club with a proper manager and top players, do you think he'll CARE about whether he's an "Arsenal legend"?
Who gives a fuck! Diaby will be more loyal than RVP, as will Song, Djourou and Walcott. Strange how it's always the top players like Cesc and RVP who will "never be Arsenal legends"!!!

Yeah. He'd be a "legend" for sticking around with these losers. If anything, RVP is an unambitious bottler if he sticks around with this shower of shite...

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Post by 1989 »

Good luck to RvP at whatever club he joins next. He's done his best to paper over Le Frog's cracks, has literally carried 10 other mugs all season. Deserves much much better than what this club is offering him.

And yes he should be considered a great.

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Post by kiwomya »

A great, yes.

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Post by nexum5me »

the only way he won't be, is if he goes to another english club. if he goes abroad then yes, he'll be a great

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Post by donaldo »

Babatunde wrote:A more pertinent question would be: when RVP leaves for a club with a proper manager and top players, do you think he'll CARE about whether he's an "Arsenal legend"?
Who gives a fuck! Diaby will be more loyal than RVP, as will Song, Djourou and Walcott. Strange how it's always the top players like Cesc and RVP who will "never be Arsenal legends"!!!Yeah. He'd be a "legend" for sticking around with these losers. If anything, RVP is an unambitious bottler if he sticks around with this shower of shite...
Fucking spot on

The stick some fans gave Cesc for bettering himself and joining the best club in the world(where he would spend all season warming the bench :roll: ) Yet *word censored* like Song Djourou and Diaby are seen as loyal.Some of our fans would rather have a shit player who stays at the club than have seen a world class player who gave his all for 8 years leave to win trophies he hasnt got a chance of winning at Arsenal.

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Post by Dan_85 »

The guy is 2 goals away from matching Bergkamp's goal tally despite being injured for nigh on 50% of his time with us. A hell of a player who deserves better team mates & a better manager. I just wish Arsenal would offer him that :banghead:

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Post by QuartzGooner »

A very good goalscorer, technically very good.

Injury prone, but putting that aside, I honestly think he will not be remembered as one of our greatest players.

He will be like Cesc, remembered as a very good player, but because neither of them were in title winning sides, they will be remembered as just outside the main group of legends such as Bastin, Drake, Mercer, McLintock, Adams, Wright, Vieira, Bergkamp, Pires, Henry etc.

Possibly the only non title winning player who is held in the highest regard was Brady?

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Post by brazilianGOONER »

i think RvP needs to have as much respect for The Arsenal as we with him. we kept paying his wages and considering him a key part of the team even when he had 3-4 seasons of constant injury. i don't know if he is extremely unlucky or very injury prone (or even maybe a mix of the two), but more strict managers would've given up on him when not only we didn't, we always considered when signing strikers that we would have the main one in RvP, even if he disappointing us with injury after injury. i remember people on this very forum (i'd say a good number of them) saying we should "get rid of the cripple". i do remember reading that in here.

also, he's a football god now, but he is not a versatile player and he didn't play this well since forever. i never saw him work well with another striker in a 4-4-2 (him and adebayor and him and henry were not exactly a super partnership in my eyes, same with dudu).

having that said, right now he is far beyond any other player of this team, his quality is far ahead of the other lads we have, and i would understand if he wanted to end his career (i don't see him playing beyond his 33 yo) in a club with real ambition.

but i would never forgive him if he left like a *word censored*, like nasri did. he doesn't have the right to do that.

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Post by Henry Norris 1913 »

[tottenham mode]better than cruyff. fact.[/tottenham mode]

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Post by MK Gould »

I may be doing him a dis-service, but I've never thought of RVP as "great". Too many spells out through injury for me. He has had a great 2011, but great Arsenal career....? No.

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