Are we the next Liverpool?

[frankbutcher]

They live in the past. Dalglish was a legend but he was shown to be out-dated and out of his depth. We might have just come 3rd, but we're light years away from where we used to be. Is Arsenal and Wenger simply a few years away from 8th place finishes? We're hardly moving forward, yet the majority still describe this as a project. Does Wenger's past cloud our ability to look at the present? Just like Liverpool, they were blinded to his failings.

[SammyDroppedHisShorts]

They live in the past. Dalglish was a legend but he was shown to be out-dated and out of his depth. We might have just come 3rd, but we're light years away from where we used to be. Is Arsenal and Wenger simply a few years away from 8th place finishes? We're hardly moving forward, yet the majority still describe this as a project. Does Wenger's past cloud our ability to look at the present? Just like Liverpool, they were blinded to his failings.

Frank I see what you are saying but in all honesty we are nowhere near being as bad as Liverpool, the club we follow has a future and that can be achieved IF he buys the right players....Liverpool are done

[frankbutcher]

They live in the past. Dalglish was a legend but he was shown to be out-dated and out of his depth. We might have just come 3rd, but we're light years away from where we used to be. Is Arsenal and Wenger simply a few years away from 8th place finishes? We're hardly moving forward, yet the majority still describe this as a project. Does Wenger's past cloud our ability to look at the present? Just like Liverpool, they were blinded to his failings.

Frank I see what you are saying but in all honesty we are nowhere near being as bad as Liverpool, the club we follow has a future and that can be achieved IF he buys the right players....Liverpool are done

Liverpool have a future. They have a good nucleus of players. With that squad they are easily top 6. With a bit of a shake-up they can be top 4. I just see similarities in the respective sets of fans failing to see the errors and just looking to past glories.

[augie]

They live in the past. Dalglish was a legend but he was shown to be out-dated and out of his depth. We might have just come 3rd, but we're light years away from where we used to be. Is Arsenal and Wenger simply a few years away from 8th place finishes? We're hardly moving forward, yet the majority still describe this as a project. Does Wenger's past cloud our ability to look at the present? Just like Liverpool, they were blinded to his failings.

Frank I see what you are saying but in all honesty we are nowhere near being as bad as Liverpool, the club we follow has a future and that can be achieved IF he buys the right players....Liverpool are done

Seriously sammy ?? Liverpool look done cos they had a clueless manager in charge and a fractured set up above him where nobody was sure who was buying the players If they had of employed a proper manager last summer and given him 100m to spend then they would be far from being "done" and if they get the next appointment correct and financially support the guy then they will be back on our heels again. They are nowhere near good enough to seriously challenge for the big trophies but then again neither are we

[clockender1]

Liverpool have a future.

they do and it involves downing, adam. henderson and carroll....

how many years is it since they won the league ? - 21/22 ?

Liverpool are now the spurs of merseyside.

whereas our nucleus is top class - TV, Kos,Jack, Ox, RVP (if he stays) and Pod. Miachi has also shown a lot of promise too.

Add to that a world class keeper and DM, and some luck with injuries and we'd challenge for the title.

[SammyDroppedHisShorts]

They live in the past. Dalglish was a legend but he was shown to be out-dated and out of his depth. We might have just come 3rd, but we're light years away from where we used to be. Is Arsenal and Wenger simply a few years away from 8th place finishes? We're hardly moving forward, yet the majority still describe this as a project. Does Wenger's past cloud our ability to look at the present? Just like Liverpool, they were blinded to his failings.

Frank I see what you are saying but in all honesty we are nowhere near being as bad as Liverpool, the club we follow has a future and that can be achieved IF he buys the right players....Liverpool are done

Seriously sammy ?? Liverpool look done cos they had a clueless manager in charge and a fractured set up above him where nobody was sure who was buying the players If they had of employed a proper manager last summer and given him 100m to spend then they would be far from being "done" and if they get the next appointment correct and financially support the guy then they will be back on our heels again. They are nowhere near good enough to seriously challenge for the big trophies but then again neither are we

Augie

I think they are done...but it doesn't mean they are finished. It will take a very good man to run that club to a standard that will challenge for the big prizes, and a lot of money. Their star players are on the wrong side of 30 and in all honesty they are a shadow of the side they were in Benetiz' time.....

[rodders999]

We were one injury to RVP away from finishing 8th this season. His goals have papered over some very wide cracks, he leaves, we head for the abyss.

[frankbutcher]

We were one injury to RVP away from finishing 8th this season. His goals have papered over some very wide cracks, he leaves, we head for the abyss.

+1

[clockender1]

We were one injury to RVP away from finishing 8th this season. His goals have papered over some very wide cracks, he leaves, we head for the abyss.

what about the goals from TV5 when he came back in and from Arteta, not to mention Walcott's 13 or so ?

if RvP HAD been injured, I am sure that either Walcott would have played in the centre with Ox wide, and/or we would probably taken Miachi back off loan.

and had he been injured over the window we would have bought possibly. possibly podolski.

we would of missed Robin obviously, but to say we would have finished 8th is very dubiousl

[SammyDroppedHisShorts]

We were one injury to RVP away from finishing 8th this season. His goals have papered over some very wide cracks, he leaves, we head for the abyss.

what about the goals from TV5 when he came back in and from Arteta, not to mention Walcott's 13 or so ?

if RvP HAD been injured, I am sure that either Walcott would have played in the centre with Ox wide, and/or we would probably taken Miachi back off loan.

and had he been injured over the window we would have bought possibly. possibly podolski.

we would of missed Robin obviously, but to say we would have finished 8th is very dubiousl

Excellent post...no man is bigger than the club....

[clockender1]

Excellent post...no man is bigger than the club....

Thank You.

I think we also managed okay before when mr glass ankles was out didn't we - we still finished 2/3/4th even with this useless dross and Bentdner & Vela up front...

had he not been injured, i would reckon (using their argument) that it would have been safe to assume that we should have won two or three titles then yeah ?

[frankbutcher]

Excellent post...no man is bigger than the club....

Thank You.

I think we also managed okay before when mr glass ankles was out didn't we - we still finished 2/3/4th even with this useless dross and Bentdner & Vela up front...

had he not been injured, i would reckon (using their argument) that it would have been safe to assume that we should have won two or three titles then yeah ?

So Park and Chamakh would have seen us to 3rd??

[QuartzGooner]

We are different from Liverpool.

Our new stadium is built.

Our staff structure and marketing and commercial position is globalised.
It has been underperforming, but it has undergone the big change from smaller scale it was at Highbury.

Our squad needs improvement, and we took a huge gamble on strikers this season, but we have a chance to add to the squad.

We have shortcomings, but we are no longer like Liverpool a club stuck in the 20th century, and are moving slowly forward.

We just have to be patient for a new manager; or see if Bould can somehow tighten our defence.

[frankbutcher]

We are different from Liverpool.

Our new stadium is built.

Our staff structure and marketing and commercial position is globalised.
It has been underperforming, but it has undergone the big change from smaller scale it was at Highbury.

Our squad needs improvement, and we took a huge gamble on strikers this season, but we have a chance to add to the squad.

We have shortcomings, but we are no longer like Liverpool a club stuck in the 20th century, and are moving slowly forward.

We just have to be patient for a new manager; or see if Bould can somehow tighten our defence.

On the contrary their global brand is light years ahead of ours. As you were......

[MegaGooner]

We were one injury to RVP away from finishing 8th this season. His goals have papered over some very wide cracks, he leaves, we head for the abyss.

what about the goals from TV5 when he came back in and from Arteta, not to mention Walcott's 13 or so ?

if RvP HAD been injured, I am sure that either Walcott would have played in the centre with Ox wide, and/or we would probably taken Miachi back off loan.

and had he been injured over the window we would have bought possibly. possibly podolski.

we would of missed Robin obviously, but to say we would have finished 8th is very dubiousl

Maybe 8th is a bit of an exageration, but without RVP in the form of his life, where do you think we would have finished this season? I know it's hypothetical, but I would like to know your honest opinion?