View from this side of the fence.
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View from this side of the fence.
I rarely start a thread of my own, but now i think things will be a little more grown up on here, wanted to portray the view of a "pro-Wenger" fan...
There is no way you can look at the Arsenal squad as it is and say "we are in great shape, we can challenge the top two" - I dont think any sane Arsenal supporter believes that, and despite this so called "split" I think we would all agree on the majority of our strengths, weaknesses both individually and as a club.
However, I dont think enough credit has been given to just what we achieved last season. I use the word "acheived" reluctantly, as we all want one of the the big trophies but bear with me. At the start of the season, we are coined as a "club in crisis" and I guess given we had lost three of our first choice midfield of an underwhelming season before, as well as one World Class midfielder I guess there was a basis for that. The club WERE at fault, there is no hiding from that, but I do think that the intentions were good, they believed they would keep one of the two want-aways, but it didnt happen - and once Jack went down in the EC...we were very much up against it. We were ALL embarrassed by the 8-2 it simply should not happen, and should never happen again - but look at the side that played that day...that was nowhere NEAR a second-string side let alone one able to compete with a Fresh and Flying United - we had beaten Udienese over two legs which was no mean feat - and given the depletions in the squad both as a result of departures, injuries and suspensions its a miracle we scored twice let alone how many more that team could have conceded.
The purchases I believe, were good ones, and i think - Park Apart - all of them have played a role this season. Arteta has been superb, I think i speak for everyone when i say we should have purchased him a year or two ago - we are not the same side when he is not there, but Yossi was a shrewd move, im very pleased to have have someone like Per as a third choice CB (you dont win that many caps for Germany if you dont have something about you) - and Santos, in his limited appearances has shown that whilst probably not a greta defensive player - can help unlock defences in tight games - plus vital goals v Chelsea and a massive goal against WBA.
We effectively had to rebuild the side, and to put the run together we did just before xmas (concluding in including a very harsh 0-1 at City just before xmas) was a sign that a spirit was starting to build in the side. Then came, i believe, one of Wengers biggest mistakes of the season in playing Santos away from home - and then following that up by not getting cover in the side in the early part of the year - boy did we pay the price for that. BUT - the resigning of Henry (which i was against btw) proved in hindsight, an excellent decision. Not only did he get us three vital points against Sunderland - off the pitch it was if the players began to actually realise what they were playing for, what the club meant...and to put the run together that got us to third was nothing short of remarkable.
What i DO NOT believe is when people say "other teams threw it away".....by that logic you could say we "threw it away" when we lost games, you end up where you deserve to be...and I think, over the course of the season we were the third best team in the league...and boy did i not think I would be saying that. I am still pro-Wenger, i get as frustrated as the next man at his stubborness, his refusual to make changes etc....but take away the reasons for it, he rebuilt and shaped a side that finished in the top three when all our rivals had a massive head start - he works with the team, trains them everyday - he is just integral to the spirit that was shown as anyone - especially when our own fans were on his case (i was just as dismayed as anyone when OX when off v United). Arsenal have caputualted in previous seasons, but that was addressed with the signing of more experienced players, and it worked - we remained strong and focused - even after we were played off the park at home by Wigan (they fully deserved that win btw - one of the best away performance ive seen live at the Emirates this season)
What im saying is, when I think of Arsenal - i think of never say die, backs to the wall but still going for it, never giving up. For the first time this year, that was evident - and i think the Manager, Staff and players should get credit for that. Players like Song (im a fan! im not ashamed), Rosicky and Walcott played well above themselves....and to see players like VP and Koscielny (my "betting without" player of the season) perform at the top of their game was a joy to watch - I do believe we have a team we can both relate to, and be proud of again.
Reverting back to my opening gambit, we need to improve, we need to learn from mistakes and we must not stand still as we have in the past. But when i look back at this season, It will of course be mixed emotions, but it will also be with a tinge of satisfaction - the whole footballing world had written us off (i had to a vast extent) but we came back and we got to where we needed to be.
Im sure a lot will read that and be steaming at the ears, which is fine, but what im saying is - we dont seem to get much credit outside the club - mainly as we shoved many so called "pundits" words down their throats.but it would be nice to see a little more from within.
Lets hope this time next year we have a team that gets the plaudits it deserves, both inside and out.
PS - for balance, i still think Walcott is very overrated, Djourou is nowhere near good enough and Gervinho will be well down the pecking order soon!
There is no way you can look at the Arsenal squad as it is and say "we are in great shape, we can challenge the top two" - I dont think any sane Arsenal supporter believes that, and despite this so called "split" I think we would all agree on the majority of our strengths, weaknesses both individually and as a club.
However, I dont think enough credit has been given to just what we achieved last season. I use the word "acheived" reluctantly, as we all want one of the the big trophies but bear with me. At the start of the season, we are coined as a "club in crisis" and I guess given we had lost three of our first choice midfield of an underwhelming season before, as well as one World Class midfielder I guess there was a basis for that. The club WERE at fault, there is no hiding from that, but I do think that the intentions were good, they believed they would keep one of the two want-aways, but it didnt happen - and once Jack went down in the EC...we were very much up against it. We were ALL embarrassed by the 8-2 it simply should not happen, and should never happen again - but look at the side that played that day...that was nowhere NEAR a second-string side let alone one able to compete with a Fresh and Flying United - we had beaten Udienese over two legs which was no mean feat - and given the depletions in the squad both as a result of departures, injuries and suspensions its a miracle we scored twice let alone how many more that team could have conceded.
The purchases I believe, were good ones, and i think - Park Apart - all of them have played a role this season. Arteta has been superb, I think i speak for everyone when i say we should have purchased him a year or two ago - we are not the same side when he is not there, but Yossi was a shrewd move, im very pleased to have have someone like Per as a third choice CB (you dont win that many caps for Germany if you dont have something about you) - and Santos, in his limited appearances has shown that whilst probably not a greta defensive player - can help unlock defences in tight games - plus vital goals v Chelsea and a massive goal against WBA.
We effectively had to rebuild the side, and to put the run together we did just before xmas (concluding in including a very harsh 0-1 at City just before xmas) was a sign that a spirit was starting to build in the side. Then came, i believe, one of Wengers biggest mistakes of the season in playing Santos away from home - and then following that up by not getting cover in the side in the early part of the year - boy did we pay the price for that. BUT - the resigning of Henry (which i was against btw) proved in hindsight, an excellent decision. Not only did he get us three vital points against Sunderland - off the pitch it was if the players began to actually realise what they were playing for, what the club meant...and to put the run together that got us to third was nothing short of remarkable.
What i DO NOT believe is when people say "other teams threw it away".....by that logic you could say we "threw it away" when we lost games, you end up where you deserve to be...and I think, over the course of the season we were the third best team in the league...and boy did i not think I would be saying that. I am still pro-Wenger, i get as frustrated as the next man at his stubborness, his refusual to make changes etc....but take away the reasons for it, he rebuilt and shaped a side that finished in the top three when all our rivals had a massive head start - he works with the team, trains them everyday - he is just integral to the spirit that was shown as anyone - especially when our own fans were on his case (i was just as dismayed as anyone when OX when off v United). Arsenal have caputualted in previous seasons, but that was addressed with the signing of more experienced players, and it worked - we remained strong and focused - even after we were played off the park at home by Wigan (they fully deserved that win btw - one of the best away performance ive seen live at the Emirates this season)
What im saying is, when I think of Arsenal - i think of never say die, backs to the wall but still going for it, never giving up. For the first time this year, that was evident - and i think the Manager, Staff and players should get credit for that. Players like Song (im a fan! im not ashamed), Rosicky and Walcott played well above themselves....and to see players like VP and Koscielny (my "betting without" player of the season) perform at the top of their game was a joy to watch - I do believe we have a team we can both relate to, and be proud of again.
Reverting back to my opening gambit, we need to improve, we need to learn from mistakes and we must not stand still as we have in the past. But when i look back at this season, It will of course be mixed emotions, but it will also be with a tinge of satisfaction - the whole footballing world had written us off (i had to a vast extent) but we came back and we got to where we needed to be.
Im sure a lot will read that and be steaming at the ears, which is fine, but what im saying is - we dont seem to get much credit outside the club - mainly as we shoved many so called "pundits" words down their throats.but it would be nice to see a little more from within.
Lets hope this time next year we have a team that gets the plaudits it deserves, both inside and out.
PS - for balance, i still think Walcott is very overrated, Djourou is nowhere near good enough and Gervinho will be well down the pecking order soon!
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I'm sorry thats too well written and balanced for here! Ban him!
I agree with most of what you say, I think finishing 3rd was an achievement after the start we had, but it was a start that could've been prevented! However we are making roads in the transfer window so I shall reserve judgement till ts closed. We need to build on last year and overhaul (long overdue) the squad, I want wenger to succeed so I guess I'm in the same boat, but we won't win a thing unless wenger finally realises we are some way away from doing so.

I agree with most of what you say, I think finishing 3rd was an achievement after the start we had, but it was a start that could've been prevented! However we are making roads in the transfer window so I shall reserve judgement till ts closed. We need to build on last year and overhaul (long overdue) the squad, I want wenger to succeed so I guess I'm in the same boat, but we won't win a thing unless wenger finally realises we are some way away from doing so.
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Hard to disagree with any of that pal.....i didnt really go into the transfer debacle....it was very Naive to think we would keep one of the two wantaways......I think most would agree that once a player wants to leave, its best they do so anyway isnt it. Wenger needs to make changes - to himself and to the squad - I can understand why people want him gone....but I think the early signs are good.....we will wait and see where we are in August I guess!BournemouthRED wrote:I'm sorry thats too well written and balanced for here! Ban him!![]()
I agree with most of what you say, I think finishing 3rd was an achievement after the start we had, but it was a start that could've been prevented! However we are making roads in the transfer window so I shall reserve judgement till ts closed. We need to build on last year and overhaul (long overdue) the squad, I want wenger to succeed so I guess I'm in the same boat, but we won't win a thing unless wenger finally realises we are some way away from doing so.
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The main problem and understandably so is we are forever waiting for wenger/the club to address the problems. Hard to take for many who are parting with big money for effectively very little.
I've always said it, we win something of note and everything looks different.
I've always said it, we win something of note and everything looks different.
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For me the point is it is Wenger's repeated failure to strengthen sufficiently (whilst rewarding sub-standard performances with pay-rises) that led directly to that woeful start. Sure we did well to recoup so many points. But it was all so avoidable. Every person in the game - fans, media pundits and other managers - could see where we were weak and where we needed to strengthen. If this was a one-off then fine, you get past it. But Wenger’s incompetence puts us more or less in this same position year after year after year. Sorry, no. That is NOT good enough for a club of our supposed size, ambition and history.
I also don’t think you can easily dismiss the effect of other teams on our final PL standing. Sure it’s all ifs and buts, but (for obvious example) if the scum had kept that pre-Christmas run going they would have blown us out of sight. And yes we DID blow it. We blow it every season. And we will continue to do so until a new man with new and more modern thinking takes over the manager’s seat.
Wenger was our greatest ever manager for me. But the operative word there is “was”.
I also don’t think you can easily dismiss the effect of other teams on our final PL standing. Sure it’s all ifs and buts, but (for obvious example) if the scum had kept that pre-Christmas run going they would have blown us out of sight. And yes we DID blow it. We blow it every season. And we will continue to do so until a new man with new and more modern thinking takes over the manager’s seat.
Wenger was our greatest ever manager for me. But the operative word there is “was”.
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As much as I agree with a lot of what you say bdb, it still all boils down to the way the club has been mis-managed by people in power this past season - if a person fcuks about at the beginning of a race when every other *word censored* starts running then that person shouldnt deserve credit for finishing 3rd because it was down to them that we had so much ground to make up
It was absolutely disgraceful how the people in power have been running this club and for me they have no excuse - some will argue that their hands were tied having lost cesc and na$ri late but they had the power there so they should have either sold them early or had the balls to stand by what they said all summer by refusing to sell them at all
Cannot agree either with your assessment of henry's re-signing on loan - for me it smacks of a desperate cheapo move that you would expect to see a *word censored* like the fat walrus at the shammers do
We had money to spend to bring in a striker so why not do that instead of having the guy for a few weeks and then having no back up at all for rvp for the last 3 months of the season ? For me this was yet another example of mis-management on a large scale and personally I think far too much credit has been given to henry's off pitch influence when, for me at least, the return of sagna was probably a much bigger factor. In fact I also believe that no enough credit for the turnaround was given to the fans - we all hear comments from players about how great their support is and bullshit like that but sometimes I think players and teams in general need to be on the end of some stick to make them realise that strolling around and going through the motions is not acceptable and I think that they would have got that message loud and clear after swansea away and manure at home
Btw I am glad to see you posting on here again lately


Cannot agree either with your assessment of henry's re-signing on loan - for me it smacks of a desperate cheapo move that you would expect to see a *word censored* like the fat walrus at the shammers do

Btw I am glad to see you posting on here again lately

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Wenger has it all to prove this summer, once again.
We have not challenged for the title for three seasons.
No matter what signings we make, the defensive coaching has to be better throughout the whole team or we will not challenge for the title.
Sadly, despite buying nine players last summer, I believe we still need better full back second choices, another midfield creative option, and another midfield defensive option. Plus some backup keepers.
Another striker would not hurt either, though Afobe and Campbell might be good enough, we will find out in time.
Henry?
Shrewd move.
He was training with us anyway, so registering him as a player was no big deal and it reaped dividends.
We have not challenged for the title for three seasons.
No matter what signings we make, the defensive coaching has to be better throughout the whole team or we will not challenge for the title.
Sadly, despite buying nine players last summer, I believe we still need better full back second choices, another midfield creative option, and another midfield defensive option. Plus some backup keepers.
Another striker would not hurt either, though Afobe and Campbell might be good enough, we will find out in time.
Henry?
Shrewd move.
He was training with us anyway, so registering him as a player was no big deal and it reaped dividends.
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I would say that we have. 09-10 / 10-11 we could have won it had we strengthened in January and, in 2010 particularly, not had a clown in goal.I suppose it depends on what you mean by challenging. We were in positions to push on and win it and fell off. But certainly we've had chances to do it.We have not challenged for the title for three seasons.
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I think 2007 - 2008 was the last team we really looked like we could win the league, we fell at the final hurdle with injuries to Eduardo, Flamini, Sagna and Adebayor.
The other seasons I just never had the faith in the squad depth that we could do it.
But it comes down to opinion.
The other seasons I just never had the faith in the squad depth that we could do it.
But it comes down to opinion.
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Agree or not but finishing 3rd after the Summer we had and the start we had (all self inflicted I might add) was an achievement, not saying we need to be proud or Wenger deserves a medal but the fact remains that only City and United finished above us.
Given Spurs best season for 50 years, Liverpool's spend and Chelsea woeful league record finishing 3rd wasn't that bad afterall.
Ok, Chelsea saved themselves in the end through winning a penalty shoot out but over the course of a season they didn't live up to their standards.
It seems the club are trying not to make the same mistakes this Summer, we will see what happens but next season is looking quite promising if the rumoured players come in and more importantly if those that have been.back up.and played far too many games go.
Last season can only be described as making the best out of a bad situation but there are plenty of teams who.would like to.have finished 3rd, two managers have lost their jobs because they failed to.
Given Spurs best season for 50 years, Liverpool's spend and Chelsea woeful league record finishing 3rd wasn't that bad afterall.
Ok, Chelsea saved themselves in the end through winning a penalty shoot out but over the course of a season they didn't live up to their standards.
It seems the club are trying not to make the same mistakes this Summer, we will see what happens but next season is looking quite promising if the rumoured players come in and more importantly if those that have been.back up.and played far too many games go.
Last season can only be described as making the best out of a bad situation but there are plenty of teams who.would like to.have finished 3rd, two managers have lost their jobs because they failed to.
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I agree with augie about the Henry signing it paid off but like the 2nd Sol Campbell signing it was a cheap signing when Cisse £9m and Jelovic £6m were available.If RVP had got injured we were stuck with Chamakh and Park that was russian roulette management.
We ended up playing the last 5 games with an injured keeper because the manager couldnt trust the two clowns who were back up
We were never once in the title race and although we finished 3rd ask any Chelsea fan if they would swop seasons with us
I cannot agree about last summers signings.Only Arteta and Yossi were a success.Anyone who thinks Gervinho was a good signing is either dumb or stupid or both.As for Santos still grossly unfit as well as being a shit defender.The QE2 turns quicker Mert
finally last year we finished 12pts behind the champions this year we finished 19pts behind the 1st and 2nd teams the gap is growing
We ended up playing the last 5 games with an injured keeper because the manager couldnt trust the two clowns who were back up
We were never once in the title race and although we finished 3rd ask any Chelsea fan if they would swop seasons with us
I cannot agree about last summers signings.Only Arteta and Yossi were a success.Anyone who thinks Gervinho was a good signing is either dumb or stupid or both.As for Santos still grossly unfit as well as being a shit defender.The QE2 turns quicker Mert
finally last year we finished 12pts behind the champions this year we finished 19pts behind the 1st and 2nd teams the gap is growing
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BDB, you're a very brave man, but I'm pleased to see another point of view to the 'Aw's a ****'.
I agree that finishing third was a good achievement, but being such a long way behind a very average Utd was disappointing.
I respect AW immensely but am now on the 'he should go' side of the argument. I would prefer it if he turned the club around but I've not seen any sign of that happening.
As manager he knew that behind Sagna we had an inexperienced boy yet he chose the go to OT and provide no cover out wide when Manure's strength was there.
To change my mind he would need to sign some proven quality (signs are promising but we've been here before), show some tactical flexibility (no sign of that for years) and come down harder on non-performing players.
I hope the pro / anti debate can continue in an adult manner, concentrating on the issues and not the name-calling.
However, you are sooooooooo wrong about Song. Next time we play do yourself a little spreadsheet with good passes, tackles etc on one side and caught in possession, passed to opposition, gave away foul, bad positioning, slow passing etc and see what scores you get.
I agree that finishing third was a good achievement, but being such a long way behind a very average Utd was disappointing.
I respect AW immensely but am now on the 'he should go' side of the argument. I would prefer it if he turned the club around but I've not seen any sign of that happening.
As manager he knew that behind Sagna we had an inexperienced boy yet he chose the go to OT and provide no cover out wide when Manure's strength was there.
To change my mind he would need to sign some proven quality (signs are promising but we've been here before), show some tactical flexibility (no sign of that for years) and come down harder on non-performing players.
I hope the pro / anti debate can continue in an adult manner, concentrating on the issues and not the name-calling.
However, you are sooooooooo wrong about Song. Next time we play do yourself a little spreadsheet with good passes, tackles etc on one side and caught in possession, passed to opposition, gave away foul, bad positioning, slow passing etc and see what scores you get.
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nicely written BDB.
there is a lot to be said for loyalty and the supporting the manager through thick an thin.
the problem is that recently that thin has become very thin and that AW and the board have tolerated and even rewarded underperformance.
and having watched The Arsenal since the late seventies, there's many things i can tolerate - but watching overpaid poor performers like Song and Bendtner week in week out is not one of them.
Arsene's right, none of us have managed a top football club but we watch the same 90 minutes each week that he does and if we can see our obvious weaknesses then 25-30,000 of us can't be all wrong can we ?
that said, i'll support Arsene as long as he is our manager and i see encouraging signs in the mid season clear out / loan fest and the signing of Podolski & possibly Giroud, and i hope he turns it around - unlike a large section of this board and many at the Grove now who post 1998 want us to become the next chelsea/city/spuds etc and have a new manager every two years.
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there is a lot to be said for loyalty and the supporting the manager through thick an thin.
the problem is that recently that thin has become very thin and that AW and the board have tolerated and even rewarded underperformance.
and having watched The Arsenal since the late seventies, there's many things i can tolerate - but watching overpaid poor performers like Song and Bendtner week in week out is not one of them.
Arsene's right, none of us have managed a top football club but we watch the same 90 minutes each week that he does and if we can see our obvious weaknesses then 25-30,000 of us can't be all wrong can we ?
that said, i'll support Arsene as long as he is our manager and i see encouraging signs in the mid season clear out / loan fest and the signing of Podolski & possibly Giroud, and i hope he turns it around - unlike a large section of this board and many at the Grove now who post 1998 want us to become the next chelsea/city/spuds etc and have a new manager every two years.
cheers
c1
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Thanks for all the responses guys, nice to read some good debate without being called a C...!
I totally appreciate there is a split, i can see why people want him gone - and I can totally see why people think its time for a change. All im saying is, I think there should be credit given for the way we came back, I totally agree that it was avoidable to a vast extent - and there is blame at the door of Wenger, the Board, the Players as much as I doo attribute some to Nasri and Cesc (refused to play...do we believe that? I can see it myself, he wanted out badly).
DB10 - i see what your saying mate, but you cant say "if the scum had kept their run going" they didnt....same as we didnt keep our bad run going - we are a better side than they are, the League table proves it - as much as smashing them 5-2 and a narrow 2-1 defeat at the swamp, with a broken team in the middle of a poor run. We were third because thats where we deserved to be, its not down to anyone else. Same as when we should have won the league in 2008, we didnt have the bottle for it in the end and fell away - i believe you end up, where you end up.
What i was getting at with Henry was, yes it was a masive risk and a huge suprise (myself and the rest of the "fun boy three" were dead against it btw)......BUT he did bring a feel good factor back to the place, the Ego's went and there was a desire to play to his standards / level - i do believe it was the start of a collectiveness that saw s through. We all lambasted the club for falling away..it didnt happen this year when it would have been a lot easier for the team to give up, when we probably all had.
I do not Wenger is the messiah anymore, but i do think he is the best man for this club at the current time....as much as he makes mistakes, he is a driven and man and wants to succeeed - whether he will again, well we all have an opinion on that
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Im not trying to bring out another boring Wenger in / Wenger out debate....all im saying is, take Wenger out of it - the club recovered very well and deserves some credit from both sides of the fence - and we got to shove it down the scum thorats after all their gloating, i think we all enjoyed that
I totally appreciate there is a split, i can see why people want him gone - and I can totally see why people think its time for a change. All im saying is, I think there should be credit given for the way we came back, I totally agree that it was avoidable to a vast extent - and there is blame at the door of Wenger, the Board, the Players as much as I doo attribute some to Nasri and Cesc (refused to play...do we believe that? I can see it myself, he wanted out badly).
DB10 - i see what your saying mate, but you cant say "if the scum had kept their run going" they didnt....same as we didnt keep our bad run going - we are a better side than they are, the League table proves it - as much as smashing them 5-2 and a narrow 2-1 defeat at the swamp, with a broken team in the middle of a poor run. We were third because thats where we deserved to be, its not down to anyone else. Same as when we should have won the league in 2008, we didnt have the bottle for it in the end and fell away - i believe you end up, where you end up.
What i was getting at with Henry was, yes it was a masive risk and a huge suprise (myself and the rest of the "fun boy three" were dead against it btw)......BUT he did bring a feel good factor back to the place, the Ego's went and there was a desire to play to his standards / level - i do believe it was the start of a collectiveness that saw s through. We all lambasted the club for falling away..it didnt happen this year when it would have been a lot easier for the team to give up, when we probably all had.
I do not Wenger is the messiah anymore, but i do think he is the best man for this club at the current time....as much as he makes mistakes, he is a driven and man and wants to succeeed - whether he will again, well we all have an opinion on that

Im not trying to bring out another boring Wenger in / Wenger out debate....all im saying is, take Wenger out of it - the club recovered very well and deserves some credit from both sides of the fence - and we got to shove it down the scum thorats after all their gloating, i think we all enjoyed that

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I think we are def at different ends of the debate pal - but thanks for a gorwn-up response!donaldo wrote:I agree with augie about the Henry signing it paid off but like the 2nd Sol Campbell signing it was a cheap signing when Cisse £9m and Jelovic £6m were available.If RVP had got injured we were stuck with Chamakh and Park that was russian roulette management.
We ended up playing the last 5 games with an injured keeper because the manager couldnt trust the two clowns who were back upWe were never once in the title race and although we finished 3rd ask any Chelsea fan if they would swop seasons with us
I cannot agree about last summers signings.Only Arteta and Yossi were a success.Anyone who thinks Gervinho was a good signing is either dumb or stupid or both.As for Santos still grossly unfit as well as being a shit defender.The QE2 turns quicker Mert
finally last year we finished 12pts behind the champions this year we finished 19pts behind the 1st and 2nd teams the gap is growing
I do agree with the bit in Bold.....it was the same up front - like i said, pro and con - we can all see where we need improving / stregthening.
Oh, and Gervinho - you will see im with you there, it was the Deadline signings I was referring too
