A Grade A rip-off

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A Grade A rip-off

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its gone beyond a joke, football used to be the working mans game when you met up with your mates ,had a few beers and went to a game :?
a days wage for most to see the arsenal is just wrong and any wonder we see the grove full of tourists nowdays :evil:

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Sadly on point but then the working man always gets the shaft, always has, always will :evil:

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My first season ticket (standing either clock end or north bank) was £60

Nowadays that is one ticket, I know you have to account for inflation but that is clearly rediculous.

The price of away tickets at Norwich is £50 :banghead:

Can't wait till 2014, when with our new found wealth from the new sponsorship deals, coupled with the new tv deal, Arsenal announce a massive reduction in prices to reward their long suffering yet suprisingly loyal fans. :rubchin:

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Remember my 1st arsenal game in 1989 if i remember correctly paid tenner to get in

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mcdowell42 wrote:Remember my 1st arsenal game in 1989 if i remember correctly paid tenner to get in
Christ that must have been a posh seat back then.
It was £3 to stand, and people moaned like hell when it went up to £3.50 one summer.

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Actually now that i think of it my 1st arsenal game was actually a game at wembley same year The Makita international tournament we won it tht year think the 3 of the 4 teams was us liverpool dynamo kiev cant remember the last team

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StuartL wrote:
The price of away tickets at Norwich is £50 :banghead: :
That is seriously taking the piss!

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Well written but hardly news is it ?

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Money and greed have fucking ruined football. :cussing:

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There's a simple answer - stop fucking letting the club rip you off. Letters and meetings with the corporate sleaze bag Gazidis - remuneration package over £2m, up 24% from last year - will get you absolutely nowhere.

Until you stop lining their pockets paying Grade A ticket prices and ridiculous merchandise prices, they will continue fleecing you. It is basic 1st year economics - the fact they are still selling out the Bowl means that their decision to raise prices has been fully justified and they will be considering further increases for next year as we speak

Stop fucking buying the tickets !

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SteveO 35 wrote:There's a simple answer - stop fucking letting the club rip you off. Letters and meetings with the corporate sleaze bag Gazidis - remuneration package over £2m, up 24% from last year - will get you absolutely nowhere.

Until you stop lining their pockets paying Grade A ticket prices and ridiculous merchandise prices, they will continue fleecing you. It is basic 1st year economics - the fact they are still selling out the Bowl means that their decision to raise prices has been fully justified and they will be considering further increases for next year as we speak

Stop fucking buying the tickets !
Bang On 8)

Dortmand Fans boycotted an away Game at Bayern Munich a few years ago because the price when from EUR 10 to EUR 22 in a single season, next season the price went back to EUR 10. Bundesliga Fans pay an average price of EUR 10 per match ticket, have Standing Sections where they can drink Beer on the Terraces.

German Fans take Action while English Fans continue to complain while allowing themselves to robbed by 'Corporate business's posing as football clubs.

I went to the Coventry game but it was only a tenner, spoke to a few people who went to the Chelsea Game who paid over £ 100 plus Booking Fees direct from the Arsenal.

Simple Solution, don't hand over the Cash to these thieves :cussing:

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I can’t dispute that it is incredibly expensive for what it is but it is simple supply and demand and personally I don’t think we can criticise the club too much here (apart from the fact they don’t spend the money!).

In what other walk of like would you expect a business to not maximise their turnover? All seater stadiums mean a club can only sell a specific number of tickets, once you set the price, if twice as many people want to buy the tickets as you have available you can filter some out by raising the price. Fair? Not really but that’s life.

The problem at the moment is the fact we pay the highest price but we don’t get the best product, there would be fewer complaints if we were the top of the table winning trophies.

As has already been said, if everyone decides its a rip off and a boycott happens then you'll see some movement but until that day the only way it is going is up.

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Skooner wrote:I can’t dispute that it is incredibly expensive for what it is but it is simple supply and demand and personally I don’t think we can criticise the club too much here (apart from the fact they don’t spend the money!).

In what other walk of like would you expect a business to not maximise their turnover? All seater stadiums mean a club can only sell a specific number of tickets, once you set the price, if twice as many people want to buy the tickets as you have available you can filter some out by raising the price. Fair? Not really but that’s life.

The problem at the moment is the fact we pay the highest price but we don’t get the best product, there would be fewer complaints if we were the top of the table winning trophies.

As has already been said, if everyone decides its a rip off and a boycott happens then you'll see some movement but until that day the only way it is going is up.
In what other walk of life could a business rely on the lifelong loyalty of it's customers? Also, we're talking about a football club - but if enough people decide to "buy into" the business ethos here, then the club (and others) can and will do this. They are in a unique position to exploit the fans by charging excessive prices, while at the same time worsening or diminishing the product on offer.

We must decide whether we are supporting a business or a football team. It seems more the former at present.

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arseofacrow wrote:
Skooner wrote:I can’t dispute that it is incredibly expensive for what it is but it is simple supply and demand and personally I don’t think we can criticise the club too much here (apart from the fact they don’t spend the money!).

In what other walk of like would you expect a business to not maximise their turnover? All seater stadiums mean a club can only sell a specific number of tickets, once you set the price, if twice as many people want to buy the tickets as you have available you can filter some out by raising the price. Fair? Not really but that’s life.

The problem at the moment is the fact we pay the highest price but we don’t get the best product, there would be fewer complaints if we were the top of the table winning trophies.

As has already been said, if everyone decides its a rip off and a boycott happens then you'll see some movement but until that day the only way it is going is up.
In what other walk of life could a business rely on the lifelong loyalty of it's customers? Also, we're talking about a football club - but if enough people decide to "buy into" the business ethos here, then the club (and others) can and will do this. They are in a unique position to exploit the fans by charging excessive prices, while at the same time worsening or diminishing the product on offer.

We must decide whether we are supporting a business or a football team. It seems more the former at present.
It's definitely true that they play on the loyalty factor. We can only rely on supporters to have some sense of value rather than blind following. I still have my season ticket as I am lucky enough that I can still afford it but I and surely the overwhelming majority have a breaking point where they just won’t pay the price any more.

Just to play devil’s advocate for a bit, maybe in the past football fans had it too easy? Going back to pre-premier league days, a lot of clubs saw any financial short fall bank rolled by local business men who were also supporters. It wasn’t any fairer than the Chelsea/City models these days but it simply wasn’t off the charts scale wise and it was done out of the goodness of a fans heart so no one argued with it. The foreign investors changed all that by the sheer scale of the bank rolling and the local businessman/supporter cannot possibly cover it so now the supporter is paying the real price of supporting the team (which has been driven up by the foreign investors).

I don’t think there is any solution here. Even if the FFP rules worked, the money is so big now that prices won’t drop. If you want your team to be successful, you are going to have pay more money for your ticket than your rivals supporters.

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