As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Gary Neville :
I was disappointed with Arsenal and I was disappointed for them. I spent my whole career competing with them for trophies; when you said their name, you automatically thought championship contenders. Not now, judging by the manner of their performance at Old Trafford. When I think of the great Arsenal teams under Arsene Wenger, I can’t think of one player who started at Old Trafford who would get into them."
I like Neville. In his book he lists the 1998 Arsenal side as the best one he ever faced domestically - better than the Invincibles and the modern Chelsea teams.
Strangely enough as well as the technical skill he mentions a couple of strange qualities called 'pace' and 'strength'. I remember those qualities too
My next door neighbour is a plastic Manc. Normally he gives me bundles when we've lost but when I'm bumped into him yesterday he was almost apologetic. "Its just a bit sad really isn't it" is all he offered up. The Mancs used to genuinely enjoy the rivalry with us. I don't think they can believe what a bunch of no-marks we've become so quickly
I dunno... is a player "world class" because he delivered ONE outstanding season in 8 years? Don't get me wrong, RVP is a top class player with fantastic technique and ability (for a kúnt), but I think to be "world class" you have to do it year after year, like (in no particular order) Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp, Maldini, Ladyboy , PlatiniCunt , Schmeichel, Giggs, etc etc - there has to be consistent high quality performances over a period of years, not months...
If RVP is still playing and scoring like he is now (and did last year) consistently for the next 3 or 4 years then I'd say he is truly world class. But still a judas kúnt.
RVP is not world class , look at him in Euro 2012 , a couple of good seasons scoring loads of goals but he doesnt score that many more league goals than say Darren Bent (look back over 5 seasons)
highburyJD wrote:VanStaplecunt was for his one injury free season
Absolutely!
Sorry donaldo, but RvP was (and is) clearly world class. I don't see how anyone can think otherwise, to be honest
Would you or JD put him in the invincibles team though?
No, because if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Henry and Bergkamp were superb together.
But RvP is good enough to play in a title winning team like the invincibles. Definitely. And I see no reason why, under different circumstances, Henry and RvP couldn't make an unbelievable strike force. It would be different than Henry/Bergkamp, and the goals would no doubt be more evenly distributed, but they're certainly good enough to play together in a title winning team. Don't see why not.
Usually if we had a kak weekend I get the piss ripped out of me at work, today however it seemed more sympathetic in nature. Just general agreement that we can't compete with the Mancs or Chelsea anymore sadly our board and manager are too highly strung to care as long as the profits keep rolling in.
wilshire certianly isnt (yet). id say mad jens was worldclass , defo in the top 5 keepers in the world for 2-3 years. he was keeping oliver kahn out of the german side then too.
the playing mantis wrote:wilshire certianly isnt (yet). id say mad jens was worldclass , defo in the top 5 keepers in the world for 2-3 years. he was keeping oliver kahn out of the german side then too.
Agreed, not sure Jack can be put in that class yet.
, PlatiniCunt 
sadly our board and manager are too highly strung to care as long as the profits keep rolling in.
