Emily Davison - Gender Equality?

[Nos89]

With all the hype around Emily Davison the suffregette who jumped in front of the kings horse at The derby and was fatally wounded, it got me thinking about equality in the 21st Century. Having very recently experienced the "secret" family court system I can report that men have little to no equality in this system. Despite having had exaggerated and false allegations made about me, I did not have an opportunity to defend myself. I was also removed without trial from the matrimonial home based on these allegations. I am not the first and I probably won't be the last man this happens too, but I've got ask has the justice system gone too far in the favour of women, supporting women discriminate against men without being challenged and is this a breach of human rights ??

[QuartzGooner]

Did you have a lawyer to represent you at the family court hearing?

[northbank123]

Have no knowledge of child law but certainly in terms of financial settlement and property ownership the courts seem to be bending over backwards and probably going too far in order to ensure they are seen as 'protecting' women.

This is only going to lead to more unjust outcomes now that legal aid has pretty much been completely removed from the scope of family law.

[arseofacrow]

Have no knowledge of child law but certainly in terms of financial settlement and property ownership the courts seem to be bending over backwards and probably going too far in order to ensure they are seen as 'protecting' women.

This is only going to lead to more unjust outcomes now that legal aid has pretty much been completely removed from the scope of family law.

All of our taxpayer money wasted....again!

[StuartL]

With all the hype around Emily Davison the suffregette who jumped in front of the kings horse at The derby and was fatally wounded, it got me thinking about equality in the 21st Century. Having very recently experienced the "secret" family court system I can report that men have little to no equality in this system. Despite having had exaggerated and false allegations made about me, I did not have an opportunity to defend myself. I was also removed without trial from the matrimonial home based on these allegations. I am not the first and I probably won't be the last man this happens too, but I've got ask has the justice system gone too far in the favour of women, supporting women discriminate against men without being challenged and is this a breach of human rights ??

sorry to hear that nos89, I am still going through a divorce that 10 months into separation appears no further forward.

My wife is living in the marital home, paying half an interest only mortgage, while I am forced to rent, whilst still paying half the mortgage, child maintenance (which I FULLY except) yet she claims not to have the funds required to attend mediation to discuss issues, instead suggests that she would be willing to attend if I pay not only my share of the mediation costs but hers too !!

Ray Davies was spot on - It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world.

[GranadaJoe]

You only have to look at awards made in divorce hearings, child custody hearings etc to conclude that in these areas the law currently, hugely favours women.
In child custody hearings (where both parties are considered suitable parents) Dads get sole custody in 10% of cases. Joint Custody is awarded in 20% and Mum's get sole custody in 70%!!

There are women only shortlists, a Women's Minister but no male equivilent.

Clearly, historically, women suffered huge discrimination. They banded together, became militant and achieved a lot of progress, bit imo, in many areas, the balance has tilted too far.

And don't get me started on the travesty of 'secret' court hearings. A disgrace and insult to everybody who fought and died for a fair and transparent legal system.

[Red Snapper]

It really would be quicker and easier to find a woman you hate and buy her a house. I also think it's highly unfair to name suspects in sex offence cases way beforeany trial takes place. For every Stuart Hall there's a Craig Charles (is that the name of the bloke from Red Dwarf?) who was the victim of false and malicious allegations but had to suffer months of worry and career ruination.

[northbank123]

It really would be quicker and easier to find a woman you hate and buy her a house. I also think it's highly unfair to name suspects in sex offence cases way beforeany trial takes place. For every Stuart Hall there's a Craig Charles (is that the name of the bloke from Red Dwarf?) who was the victim of false and malicious allegations but had to suffer months of worry and career ruination.

Imo police shouldn't really name suspects unless it's exceptional circumstances (such as national security) - which isn't satisfied merely by the suspect being a celebrity. Their job is to investigate the crime and they should only name suspects after a joint-decision has been made with the CPS to charge. I would apply this to all crimes - look at what happened to that landlord in the Joanna Yeates case. Yes he was compensated handsomely for defamation but his life may well have been ruined.

[Nos89]

Did you have a lawyer to represent you at the family court hearing?

Yes I did but he actually caused me more damage in the long run than the minor victory he claimed in the court. It's all funded privately. Considering she earns 3x more than I do, as resident parent she got the CSA involved and if ever an organisation needed reforming that is one of them. The govt should get rid of it and make the parents sit around the table and sort it like adults, instead of being the bully that just takes your money. Yet they only care about the kids....bollocks do they if they did they would look at both parents income and make a sensible decision...surely the children's welfare will be better considered if both parents could be around...physically, and emotionally.

I'm pretty sure my civil and human rights have been violated yet who is there to turn to for men??? Under new guidelines how many men will get legal aid if they claim violent domestic abuse??? This will only give women more opportunity to lie in court and ruin a man's life. This means more absent father, more ill disciplined children and more power to greedy selfish women. It's simply reform family law give the opportunity the respondent an opportunity to respond. A murderer has more legal rights than the respondent has in a divorce case. How is that justice???

[Top Londoner]

Did you have a lawyer to represent you at the family court hearing?

This happened to me and my lil bruv back in 1975.
Horrendous. A lesbo social services worker (who had no experience of bringing up a family) deemed my (single) mother incapable of caring for her five children. My father had a helluva time convincing them otherwise.
In those days vigilante practices prevailed though.


These secret courts are evil. The fathers are always demonised.
I suggest blokes fight dirty, like the bleedin' wimmen do.

[QuartzGooner]

I tend to be wary of lesbians.
I used to just think that they were women who fancied other women, but in my experience quite often they are frumpy or ugly women who may or may not have been treated badly by men, but anyway hold a grudge against men.
So they become cauldrons of anger, and it takes very little to set them off into a rage that can cause damage.

[skizz_b]

the CSA as an organisation are a joke.

child maintenance payments in and of themselves are ridiculous.

however the biggest travesty, and one that i for one cannot understand, is how in this day and age of "equality" a woman can divorce a man of their own volition and still manage to get maintenance payments for not only their children, but themselves. grinds my gears.

unfortunately, much like the "racism" card in some cases, speaking as a man against these sorts of things is seen as "sexist" by a lot of women. question them as to why it is sexist, and they will tell you "you're against women" simply for following a logical path of thought, something that those who made these laws did not do

[olgitgooner]

This a sore subject for most men who've been through divorce proceedings. And rightly so.

I got divorced in 1990. My ex took a barrister in to the first part of the proceedings. The barrister (a young girl barely out of law school) proceeded to try everything she could to paint me as an evil bastard in the eyes of the judge (or whatever they are called). Perversely, I ended up paying for her very expensive time. I said to the judge that I thought we were there to sort out financial and custodial rights for the benefit of our children. And not to be subjected to a character assassination. Fair play to the bloke, he agreed with me.

My ex-wife's solicitor was similarly a waste of space. Advising her to claim the absolute maximum of maintenance. Which included food for a couple of goldfish FFS!

Even people who have agreed to divorce on good terms have ended up hating each other once the legal people have got involved in the process.

There must be a better way to sort these things out.

Which would not include any such nonsense as the ridiculous CSA or the evil private courts which are now being exposed in the press.

[LDB]

Just to check, this wasn't you was it?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/naz ... urt-691243

[DB10GOONER]

Nos89, sorry to hear of your troubles, mate.

I've no experience of Engerlish law but Oirish law is fucked in the head. My brother in law was in a very toxic relationship with this mad bitch that was banging half his neighbours. He found out and confronted her, verbally. She promptly called the Police and claimed he had raped her. Plod duly arrested him, treated him like a rapist piece of shit. The courts similarly treated him like he was a convicted rapist. An order to put his child (from a different woman) into care was issued. It was guilty until proven innocent. She also told everyfuckingone who'd listen that he had raped her so he was getting threats etc where he lived. Eventually, through a very complex series of events it was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was innocent. Any compensation? An apology from the cops or the court? Was the lying psycho bitch prosecuted for wasting police time or committing slander? Not a fucking bit of it.