a manifesto for football

[highburyJD]

http://www.standamf.com/2013/07/23/time ... -football/
This is an excellent start.
Anybody else got ideas to add?

[mattyb]

http://www.standamf.com/2013/07/23/time ... -football/
This is an excellent start.
Anybody else got ideas to add?

I was at the demo on the 19th june , we had a good turn out of arsenal fans ...more than the spuds and our banner was quality ... getting back to the point... all the arsenal forums and supporters groups should unite under one umbrella movement with the aim of putting the point across that the fans should not be taken for granted. Will this happen or how I dont know.....

there was talk of another co ordinated movement with other groups also taking part during the season... remains to be seen what happens..

[highburyJD]

good work Matty, unfortunately I was out of the country
we should def unify behind these kind of issues

[QuartzGooner]

Gordon Taylor speaks about "The Soul of Football"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -soul.html

[I Hate Hleb]

Done very well for the players and himself has Gordon.

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

I have to admit I scoffed at the 'immoral' comment. Football died in 2004, the last time a club other than Barcadrid won la liga and the last time a ethically well run premier league club won the title. It can't be fixed either. Football mirrors capitalism. It's all about money and success at all cost.

[highburyJD]

everything can be fixed. Things that seemed impossible are looked back on as inevitable.

[northbank123]

I don't think clubs should be legally obliged to cap ticket prices. If they want to price out a loyal fanbase then that's their decision and chances are it'll come back to bite them in the arse at some point. Just don't think they should have anything more than a moral obligation to make prices affordable to everybody.

What that article actually seems to be proposing is adopting the NFL system of caps and shared revenues - I wonder how many of the Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs etc fans at the rally would actually be happy if that came to fruition? How happy would you be if your hard-earned cash then went towards helping Steve Bruce at Hull etc?

And whilst the top clubs do hold a phenomenal amount of financial power, looking at recent history you can't really say that the rest have next to no chance of silverware - in the last two seasons alone Palace and Villa have made LC semis, Cardiff and Bradford made the final and Swansea won it - and in the last three seasons Millwall, Bolton and Everton have made FA Cup semis, Stoke have been runners-up and Wigan have won it.

I'm not saying everything is fair as it is but I think people wouldn't actually be so enthusiastic if something like what's being proposed did happen. There's a reason A1 never took off....

[highburyJD]

I don't think clubs should be legally obliged to cap ticket prices.

Home fans I agree but I think there absolutely should be a cap on away fan ticket prices.
They've already spent more than the home fans, they often drive the atmosphere.

[northbank123]

I don't think clubs should be legally obliged to cap ticket prices.

Home fans I agree but I think there absolutely should be a cap on away fan ticket prices.
They've already spent more than the home fans, they often drive the atmosphere.

I'd be interested to see how that would work if they implemented it. You can bet if they introduced such a cap that not only would it bring away tickets at the big clubs down, but that the smaller clubs may well jump on it as a chance to increase their away ticket prices towards the same level.

I think it's a fair principle but not if it ends up that you have to pay nearly the same to watch your team in a half-empty shithole against a bunch of hackers in the North-West (although mercifully Bolton and Blackburn are no longer around) as you would for a ticket at a ground with immensely better facilities, against a far better team in a generally far more expensive part of the country.

Although I am still smarting at paying £38 to go to Molineux in first year when my Wolves-supporting mate got the return ticket at our place for £33.