Anelka Banned 5 matches

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Anelka Banned 5 matches

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1933 ... pt=hp_bn15

lets keep it civil this time boys :D


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"West Bromwich Albion striker Nicolas Anelka has received a five-match ban from the English Football Association in connection with a controversial gesture he made after scoring a goal against West Ham United in December.

Anelka was also fined £80,000 for the gesture.

The Football Association passed along word of the suspension on Thursday:

An Independent Regulatory Commission has found an aggravated breach of FA Rule E3 against Nicolas Anelka proven and has issued a five-match suspension and a fine of £80,000, pending appeal.

The West Bromwich Albion player has also been ordered to complete a compulsory education course.

The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course.

Mr Anelka has the right to appeal the decision. Mr Anelka must notify The FA of his intention to appeal within seven days of receipt of the written reasons.

Rob Harris of The Associated Press provided further perspective:

Although John Terry received a 4-match, FA has since introduced a min 5-game ban for racism since then. So Anelka got that
— Rob Harris (@RobHarris) February 27, 2014

The action in question was a so-called "quenelle" gesture, which is viewed by some as a Nazi salute in reverse. After he made the sign, it drew the immediate ire of French sports minister Valerie Fourneyron due to its possible anti-Semitic roots.

"Shocking and disgusting" and "there was no place for anti-Semitism on the football field" are some of the comments made by Fourneyron about the situation, according to the BBC.

West Brom has also suspended Anelka while the remainder of the process plays out, according to a statement on the club website:

West Bromwich Albion treats very seriously any such allegation which includes any reference to ethnic origin and/or race and/or religion and/or belief. Upon both charges being proven, the Club has suspended Nicolas Anelka pending the conclusion of the FA’s disciplinary process and the Club’s own internal investigation.

The Club acknowledges that the FA panel ‘did not find that Nicolas Anelka is an anti-Semite or that he intended to express or promote anti-Semitism by his use of the quenelle’. However, the Club cannot ignore the offence that his actions have caused, particularly to the Jewish community, nor the potential damage to the Club’s reputation.

David Delew, the Chief Executive of the Community Security Trust, provided a statement on Anelka (via The Board of Deputies of British Jews):

Nicolas Anelka has rightly been found guilty of introducing an ugly antisemitic gesture into British football. We acknowledge Anelka’s denial of antisemitic intent, but his action was clear and the FA’s zero tolerance approach to racism meant there could be no other outcome. This verdict sends a strong message to Jewish players and supporters at all levels of the game that the FA will act against antisemitic acts if they are reported.

Anelka defended himself throughout the process. He claimed the gesture had nothing to do with religion, but was rather dedicated to French comedian Dieudonne M'bala M'bala and sent a message of anti-system.

CNN translated his remarks and provided more information:

"(The) meaning (of) quenelle: anti-system. I do not know what the word religion has to do with this story! Of course, I am neither racist nor anti-Semitic," the footballer, who converted to Islam in 2004, tweeted last month after the incident.

After making the gesture against West Ham, Anelka agreed to his club's request that he would not repeat it.

In charging Anelka, the FA noted that the gesture in question did violate Rule E3, concluding that it involved an improper reference:

It is alleged that, in the 40th minute of the fixture, Anelka made a gesture which was abusive and/or indecent and/or insulting and/or improper, contrary to FA Rule E3[1].

It is further alleged that this is an aggravated breach, as defined in FA Rule E3[2], in that it included a reference to ethnic origin and/or race and/or religion or belief.

Only Anelka knows if he had a firm understanding of the sign before he flashed it during the match against West Ham or if he truly viewed it differently than others.

What's your opinion on the ban?
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By handing out the ban, the FA is making it clear these types of gestures have no place in the sport. It also sends a message to players that they shouldn't make any signal that could come off negatively, even if they believe it to have a separate meaning.

Recently, Anelka has been sidelined by a shin injury. Sky Sports reported he had returned to training with the club, but wasn't ready for a full return to action ahead of the FA hearing.

The 34-year-old French striker has watched his form drop off ever since he left Chelsea in 2012. West Brom signed him over the summer in an attempt to bolster a middling attack, but the results have been mixed.

It's unclear if Anelka will move right back into a prominent role on the attack once the ban comes to an end. As the CNN report mentions, he has also run into separate problems during stints with Real Madrid, Chelsea and the French national team.

In light of Anelka's suspension and the ban from the FA, it's unclear when or if the player will return to the pitch this season."

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A nonsense statement from the FA.
They ban him for causing "offence to Jews" yet say the gesture was not intentionally anti-Semitic and Anelka was not guilty of anti-Semitism!
Classic doublespeak.

"Offence" means so little in the grand scheme of things.
Either he was supporting a French comedian who funds, incites and provides logistical support to violent attacks on civilians, or he was not.
Yet the FA do not have the guts to say so.

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QuartzGooner wrote:A nonsense statement from the FA.
They ban him for causing "offence to Jews" yet say the gesture was not intentionally anti-Semitic and Anelka was not guilty of anti-Semitism!
Classic doublespeak.

"Offence" means so little in the grand scheme of things.
Either he was supporting a French comedian who funds, incites and provides logistical support to violent attacks on civilians, or he was not.
Yet the FA do not have the guts to say so.
Seems crazy that the FA have watered down their reasoning so much. It won't placate those who felt he shouldn't have been banned and it will also piss off the vast majority of people who felt that it was grossly offensive.

I agree with Quartz - he did it to support that pig and he did it knowing the inextricable links with the anti-Semitic routine. It follows that the gesture was therefore anti-Semitic given that it was in support of his friend's controversial anti-Semitic routine and was obviously going to be interpreted by those who are aware of that filthy twat as such.

I'm surprised he hasn't trotted out the line "I'm not racist, I have loads of Jewish friends....." :roll:

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I m French
And I really like Dieudonné
This quenelle gesture,let me laugh..

Dieudonne antisemite,
Yeah sure.. :roll:
The guy got a Jewish as a best friend,elie semoun
They were a duo of comedians for decades together.

He was a leftist,socialist,who started in politics against the French national front..

All this is just a smoke screen who went wrong for the French governement
The main culprit is Manuel Vals,ministre de l interieur
He even went out few days ago admitting he was wrong to make dieudonne life hell..

And now dieudonne is more and more popular in France
And Vals who was supposed to be the next president is completely out of it..


What I found shocking in this story is how the fa got involved in French polytricks..

Oh wait,
Does it have anything to do with the visit of Francois hollande few days in the uk?
How convenient to go after dieudonne and affiliated so maybe people will forget I m actually shagging a French actress while I m already having a "First Lady" ..
It s all in the timing ..

I m out
Peace

And as Public Enemy said

Don't believe the hype!! 8)

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"Offence" means so little in the grand scheme of things.
Either he was supporting a French comedian who funds, incites and provides logistical support to violent attacks on civilians, or he was not.
Yet the FA do not have the guts to say so.
If they banned every comedian that funds, incites and provides logistical support to violent attacks on civilians there wouldn't be a ,England ,Israeli,or team USA team either to name but a few !

I could go on but I think I'l leave you with a bit of The The !

God doesn't live in Israel or Rome
God doesn't belong to the Yankee dollar
God doesn't plant the bombs for Hezbollah
God doesn't even go to church
And God won't send us down to Allah to burn
No, God will remind us what we already know
That the human race is about to reap what it's sown

Armageddon Days Are Here (again)

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QuartzGooner wrote:A nonsense statement from the FA.
They ban him for causing "offence to Jews" yet say the gesture was not intentionally anti-Semitic and Anelka was not guilty of anti-Semitism!
Classic doublespeak.
Not just nonsense but actually quite worrying, perhaps for different reasons. The right to be offended wins out once again, how can you be sanctioned for offending someone and in the same breath be found not to have been intentionally offensive? Far too many people in this country revel in being offended by things and nonsense like this does it no favours.

Admittedly I realise it is only a FA decision so it's hardly subject to much due process or burden of proof. The FA has got involved in something which is way over it's head and all for a bit of tokenism and PR.

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chyren1 wrote:I m French
And I really like Dieudonné
This quenelle gesture,let me laugh..

Dieudonne antisemite,
Yeah sure
.. :roll:
The guy got a Jewish as a best friend,elie semoun
They were a duo of comedians for decades together.

He was a leftist,socialist,who started in politics against the French national front..

All this is just a smoke screen who went wrong for the French governement
The main culprit is Manuel Vals,ministre de l interieur
He even went out few days ago admitting he was wrong to make dieudonne life hell..

And now dieudonne is more and more popular in France
And Vals who was supposed to be the next president is completely out of it..


What I found shocking in this story is how the fa got involved in French polytricks..

Oh wait,
Does it have anything to do with the visit of Francois hollande few days in the uk?
How convenient to go after dieudonne and affiliated so maybe people will forget I m actually shagging a French actress while I m already having a "First Lady" ..
It s all in the timing ..

I m out
Peace

And as Public Enemy said

Don't believe the hype!! 8)
You are kidding, right? :shock:

Are you aware that whilst Dieudonne might have originally fought the National Front, he has since become allied to and friends with Jean-Marie Le Pen and other senior NF members like Frederick Chatillon and Bruno Gollnisch?

Are you aware that he had the despicable piece of shit and Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson as a guest on one of his shows in 2008 and that they made a film taking the piss out of Holocaust commemorations? Or that he described Holocaust remembrance as "memorial pornography"?

Or that he was convicted eight times on antisemitism charges? Eight times. In a court of law.

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Don't have to do much to offend people nowadays however much the so called one God religions offend anyone with a brain .
Any person who swallows Abraham's bullshit about God telling him that Jews ,were better than the rest of us is a racist ,the same Abraham that took his son and was prepared to slaughter him for the same God who at the last moment says only joshing with you Abe give us some lamb chops instead,!
Yea top man he was !
Then there's these Christians a, Virgin Birth ,really Mary are you sure about that one ??? You'll be telling me next of a great Mohammed that rode a magic carpet and wasn't a XXXXX XXXXXX XXXXX next !

I get offended by governments using my tax money to kill people or allowing food companies to poison us without fear of consequence ,and those banks that lose billions and have the government bail them out who then tax the poorest of the poor to pay for it ,now that i get really offended by ,but a stupid gesture by a moron on a football field means fuck all to me !

Bacon Butty anyone ?

Editted by DB10 - sorry Herd, but Muslims in general and extremists in particular have no sense of humour regarding that subject. :|

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@Herd

The UK/USA/Israeli or any other military can sometimes select the wrong targets, or have the wrong intelligence, and particularly tank shells can go astray, but they do not set out to intentionally attack civilians as policy.
For a cynic such as yourself, even putting aside moral considerations, munitions are simply too expensive for that - US$8000 per NATO large calibre High Explosive Anti Tank Shell or US$20,000 for an Israeli surface to surface guided missile.

(World Wars One and Two obviously different with carpet bombing etc, and of course you can get the odd soldier who flips out).

The Tribe Ka mates of Dieudonne did go out and select unarmed civilians, and he gave them logistical support and cash, out of his budget from the Iranians.
Far far beyond anything to do with a comedy routine.

Oh, and just to put you right on a myth you have posted, there is nothing in our Jewish faith that says we are "better" than anyone else, the idea of "Chosen People" is about keeping 613 commandments as opposed to 10 or 7.
Neither is it an exclusive 'racist" club, anyone of any skin colour or nationality is free to join and we have many ethnicities within our faith.

As for Abraham being prepared to kill Isaac it is indeed a baffling proposition to get one's head round, but he didn't actually do it, it was a test of faith.
But he was a "top man" as evidenced by his massive hospitality and personal morality.

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chyren1 wrote:I m French
And I really like Dieudonné
This quenelle gesture,let me laugh..

Dieudonne antisemite,
Yeah sure.. :roll:
The guy got a Jewish as a best friend,elie semoun
They were a duo of comedians for decades together.

He was a leftist,socialist,who started in politics against the French national front..

All this is just a smoke screen who went wrong for the French governement
The main culprit is Manuel Vals,ministre de l interieur
He even went out few days ago admitting he was wrong to make dieudonne life hell..

And now dieudonne is more and more popular in France
And Vals who was supposed to be the next president is completely out of it..


What I found shocking in this story is how the fa got involved in French polytricks..

Oh wait,
Does it have anything to do with the visit of Francois hollande few days in the uk?
How convenient to go after dieudonne and affiliated so maybe people will forget I m actually shagging a French actress while I m already having a "First Lady" ..
It s all in the timing ..

I m out
Peace

And as Public Enemy said

Don't believe the hype!! 8)
:barscarf:

And the real smokescreen is this 'left-wing' bollocks. Politics has fuck all to do with it, he's a vile scumbag and incredibly racist. If you believe that politics is any sort of excuse for the things he says then frankly you are a mug.

Not to mention that this incident pre-dated Hollande's affair breaking by over a fortnight and even here created a furore starting the very same day.

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northbank123 wrote:It won't placate those who felt he shouldn't have been banned and it will also piss off the vast majority of people who felt that it was grossly offensive.
Really? Nobody I know found it to be grossly offensive. And it sounds like most posters on here agree.

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The gesture represents a full arm pushed in the butt of the opponents from the fingers to the shoulder. Even if the gesture itself is allegedly not against religion, it's not correct to show it on TV. Like doggystyle celebrations, it must be forbidden.
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chyren1 wrote:I m French
And I really like Dieudonné
This quenelle gesture,let me laugh..

Dieudonne antisemite,
Yeah sure.. :roll:
The guy got a Jewish as a best friend,elie semoun
They were a duo of comedians for decades together.

He was a leftist,socialist,who started in politics against the French national front..

All this is just a smoke screen who went wrong for the French governement
The main culprit is Manuel Vals,ministre de l interieur
He even went out few days ago admitting he was wrong to make dieudonne life hell..


And now dieudonne is more and more popular in France
And Vals who was supposed to be the next president is completely out of it..


What I found shocking in this story is how the fa got involved in French polytricks..

Oh wait,
Does it have anything to do with the visit of Francois hollande few days in the uk?
How convenient to go after dieudonne and affiliated so maybe people will forget I m actually shagging a French actress while I m already having a "First Lady" ..
It s all in the timing ..

I m out
Peace

And as Public Enemy said

Don't believe the hype!! 8)

I note your post was at 4.30 in the morning. I suggest you sleep it off, have a big breakfast, plenty of coffee and then reconsider whether the FA following its disciplinary procedure really has anything at all to do with Hollande shagging an actress.

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Has GoonerEd cancelled all of the mods leave for the weekend yet? :lol:

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Herd wrote:
"Offence" means so little in the grand scheme of things.
Either he was supporting a French comedian who funds, incites and provides logistical support to violent attacks on civilians, or he was not.
Yet the FA do not have the guts to say so.
If they banned every comedian that funds, incites and provides logistical support to violent attacks on civilians there wouldn't be a ,England ,Israeli,or team USA team either to name but a few !

I could go on but I think I'l leave you with a bit of The The !

God doesn't live in Israel or Rome
God doesn't belong to the Yankee dollar
God doesn't plant the bombs for Hezbollah
God doesn't even go to church
And God won't send us down to Allah to burn
No, God will remind us what we already know
That the human race is about to reap what it's sown

Armageddon Days Are Here (again)
I think my breakfast and coffee suggestion might be a good idea for you too.
Are your comments in some way tongue-in-cheek or am I just unaware of the legions of comedians funding attacks of civilians? (Lenry Henry, Tim Vine???)

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