THE COST OF FOOTBALL/BBC REPORT/Ticket Prices

[REB]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29614980

[DB10GOONER]

Ooh! Ooh! ANOTHER football finance thread!! Ooh! Ooh! Can we add some quotes from blogs?!! Flash will be thrilled!!

[Gunner Rob]

so we have the highest tickets in Europe and therefore probably the world, yet we started the season with Sanogo as our only fit centre forward, we have teenagers filling into our defensive positions, the club no longer even attempts to challenge for the title....and yet still no sign of discontent at the Emirates.

whilst season ticket holders continue to pay these ridiculous prices then the cost of them will only rise and the standard on the pitch will at best stagnate.

this is what has happened for the past decade at Arsenal.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Here is an interesting article about PL ticket prices. Nothing new I guess for you guys who goes to the games... Arsenal of course is the most expensive in both match day and season tickets. What I didn't know is that ManCity has cheapest season tickets in whole PL, that's about three times cheaper than Arsenal's...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29614980

[TheCook]

Ticket prices are unacceptably high, we all know that.

But these reports are once again being used as a stick to beat Arsenal with ; comparing season ticket prices at various clubs is not comparing apples with apples, due to the number of games involved, so this is not an accurate measure. Average ticket price per match is much more accurate, and then Arsenal's don't look so bad, and stands up against the other London clubs.

And as for all this 'a season ticket at Dortmund / Barca costs 150 Euros', it's bullshit ; those price tickets are available to such a tiny minority it is almost irrelevant ; there is no way that the vast majority of people can get hold of them at those rates.

Yes, ticket prices are high, and you can pay £97 at Arsenal for the best seat at a Cat A match if you want ; but you can also pay an average of £39 if you are happy in the cheap seats.

The info per game is there on the BBC article, buried somewhere in the text, but the rest of the media are getting stuck in.

[DB10GOONER]

Ticket prices are unacceptably high, we all know that.

But these reports are once again being used as a stick to beat Arsenal with ; comparing season ticket prices at various clubs is not comparing apples with apples, due to the number of games involved, so this is not an accurate measure. Average ticket price per match is much more accurate, and then Arsenal's don't look so bad, and stands up against the other London clubs.

And as for all this 'a season ticket at Dortmund / Barca costs 150 Euros', it's bullshit ; those price tickets are available to such a tiny minority it is almost irrelevant ; there is no way that the vast majority of people can get hold of them at those rates.

Yes, ticket prices are high, and you can pay £97 at Arsenal for the best seat at a Cat A match if you want ; but you can also pay an average of £39 if you are happy in the cheap seats.

The info per game is there on the BBC article, buried somewhere in the text, but the rest of the media are getting stuck in.

Surely you are not suggesting the Beeb have twisted some stats to make a dodgy point, are you?

[Ikechukwu1]

Ticket prices are unacceptably high, we all know that.

But these reports are once again being used as a stick to beat Arsenal with ; comparing season ticket prices at various clubs is not comparing apples with apples, due to the number of games involved, so this is not an accurate measure. Average ticket price per match is much more accurate, and then Arsenal's don't look so bad, and stands up against the other London clubs.

And as for all this 'a season ticket at Dortmund / Barca costs 150 Euros', it's bullshit ; those price tickets are available to such a tiny minority it is almost irrelevant ; there is no way that the vast majority of people can get hold of them at those rates.

Yes, ticket prices are high, and you can pay £97 at Arsenal for the best seat at a Cat A match if you want ; but you can also pay an average of £39 if you are happy in the cheap seats.

The info per game is there on the BBC article, buried somewhere in the text, but the rest of the media are getting stuck in.

Spoken like a true club plant. Hah.
Ticket prices at the club, considering the dearth of talent, player quality and a record against the big clubs comparable to Pardew is, unacceptable. Full stop. Thankfully for the club, there's always a load of brainwashed apostles ready to defend it!

[Skooner]

Ticket prices are unacceptably high, we all know that.

But these reports are once again being used as a stick to beat Arsenal with ; comparing season ticket prices at various clubs is not comparing apples with apples, due to the number of games involved, so this is not an accurate measure. Average ticket price per match is much more accurate, and then Arsenal's don't look so bad, and stands up against the other London clubs.

And as for all this 'a season ticket at Dortmund / Barca costs 150 Euros', it's bullshit ; those price tickets are available to such a tiny minority it is almost irrelevant ; there is no way that the vast majority of people can get hold of them at those rates.

Yes, ticket prices are high, and you can pay £97 at Arsenal for the best seat at a Cat A match if you want ; but you can also pay an average of £39 if you are happy in the cheap seats.

The info per game is there on the BBC article, buried somewhere in the text, but the rest of the media are getting stuck in.

I get your point but it is still a fair comparison to an extent as ST holders don’t have an option to buy a league only ticket, so that is genuinely the lowest season ticket price available to our fans. Interesting it also excludes Club level seats.

[augie]

Ticket prices are unacceptably high, we all know that.

But these reports are once again being used as a stick to beat Arsenal with ; comparing season ticket prices at various clubs is not comparing apples with apples, due to the number of games involved, so this is not an accurate measure. Average ticket price per match is much more accurate, and then Arsenal's don't look so bad, and stands up against the other London clubs.

And as for all this 'a season ticket at Dortmund / Barca costs 150 Euros', it's bullshit ; those price tickets are available to such a tiny minority it is almost irrelevant ; there is no way that the vast majority of people can get hold of them at those rates.

Yes, ticket prices are high, and you can pay £97 at Arsenal for the best seat at a Cat A match if you want ; but you can also pay an average of £39 if you are happy in the cheap seats.

The info per game is there on the BBC article, buried somewhere in the text, but the rest of the media are getting stuck in.

Yes there is some fudging of the facts there BUT, the reality is that our fans pay a lot more for their match tickets than any club in world football I get the whole cup credit argument, but fans have long campaigned to remove these credits in a bid bring down the season ticket prices, and the club's refusal to do so shows their greed and fear imo. The fear is that they are no longer guaranteed to sell out games now, so if a championship (or lower) club gets drawn to play a cup game in the grove, there would be a very real chance that it would be nowhere near selling out IF they scrapped cup credits policy

Funnily enough I got a phone call from the box office the other day, under the guise of making sure my contact details are still the same - they then asked me if we (my son and I) were still happy to be on the season ticket waiting list and they asked if I would take up the option of buying them next season if I was offered. I responded by telling them that it would be unlikely as I haven't budgeted for shelling out money that soon, and that I would want lower tier tickets anyway - the guy then basically told me to get my finances sorted out cos I would probably be offered season tickets in the next year or two. This is further proof, if more proof is needed, that the waiting list for season tickets is almost at an end because I was nowhere near getting season tickets 2 or 3 years ago, but now I am near the top of the queue - chickens coming home to roost ivan

[Gunner Rob]

the trouble is augie that there STILL IS a waiting list.
I do think that if there wasn't things might start to change much more quickly - you certainly wouldn't be seeing any 3% rises

[OneBardGooner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29527838


The rich (Club, Managers & Players) get richer and the fans can go f*ck themselves - oooops did I say fans - I meant customers.

[augie]

the trouble is augie that there STILL IS a waiting list.
I do think that if there wasn't things might start to change much more quickly - you certainly wouldn't be seeing any 3% rises

If I am being offered a ticket then you can be sure the waiting list is close to be wiped out

[arseofacrow]

Ticket prices are unacceptably high, we all know that.

But these reports are once again being used as a stick to beat Arsenal with ; comparing season ticket prices at various clubs is not comparing apples with apples, due to the number of games involved, so this is not an accurate measure. Average ticket price per match is much more accurate, and then Arsenal's don't look so bad, and stands up against the other London clubs.

And as for all this 'a season ticket at Dortmund / Barca costs 150 Euros', it's bullshit ; those price tickets are available to such a tiny minority it is almost irrelevant ; there is no way that the vast majority of people can get hold of them at those rates.

Yes, ticket prices are high, and you can pay £97 at Arsenal for the best seat at a Cat A match if you want ; but you can also pay an average of £39 if you are happy in the cheap seats.

The info per game is there on the BBC article, buried somewhere in the text, but the rest of the media are getting stuck in.

Doesn't change the fact that prices are far too high and pricing people out. That's the main issue and if a bit of bad and misleading publicity is the price of getting the issue in the news, then surely that's a good thing?

And I think the Dortmunf season tickets are probably available to more people than can get cheap tickets at Arsenal.

[Simon]

I think that even comparing on a match by match basis, something very fishy is going on here.

According to the BBC: "Arsenal have the most expensive match-day ticket in the Premier League at £97. That's down £29 on last season but still more than double the most expensive match-day ticket at seven other top-flight clubs"

Er no, that's totally wrong. The £97 seats are a different category (Centre Upper Back & Next to Centre Upper) and there has been an increase in the price since last season. The most expensive regular seats (i.e not Club Level or Boxes etc) at Arsenal are front Centre Upper blocks where a Category A game seat costs a whopping £127.00

Even The Cook got taken in by this from his post above.

Curiouser and curiouser, Arsenal have mysteriously deleted this category of seats on the prices page of their website:
http://www.arsenal.com/tickets/member-ticket-prices

However it was certainly showing on there last season before the price increase, when they were £123.50:
http://web.archive.org/web/201403262133 ... ket-prices

[StuartL]

Regardless of fiddled figures or not the question should be do we get value for money ?

Comfy seats yes, plenty of legroom sure, but actually on the pitch where it should count most t h e answer is unequivocally NO !!