Tactics

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Tactics

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Genuine question - when did Wenger last make a tactical change in a non-winning situation to win a game?

I genuinely can't remember, for me the man is unable to change a game like someone like Mourinho is able to do so. Am I being unkind in failing to recall a single incident in recent memory where by his tactical nous turned a match around in our favour?

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the only one i can't think of is throwing giroud on to make it 442 in the cup last year.

other than that - it is what we have seen for some years, poor preparation, ignoring the oppositions strengths, and tactical inflexibility.

other than injury subs, i have never seen wenger make one let alone two subs at HT.

Wenger has PLAN A, sticks with it for 95 minutes, if it works fine then good, if not there's always something outside his control that he didn't foresee, that he can blame it on.

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difficult to answer...
the reason why we're struggling to find the answer is because in the alternative universe that contains 'arsene-world', defensive changes kills player confidence thus it's better to do nothing, and let the players figure it all out.

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I remember 2006 when he changed the formation and packed the midfield with 5 and had Henry up top on is own against Real Madrid at the Bernabau. My memory is a bit hazy but that may have even been by accident due to an injury crisis up top. Can't remember if it was that game but there were rumours that Lupoli was going to start upfront with Henry before the team sheet came out and he'd stuck five in midfield instead.

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This Is The Daybreak wrote:I remember 2006 when he changed the formation and packed the midfield with 5 and had Henry up top on is own against Real Madrid at the Bernabau. My memory is a bit hazy but that may have even been by accident due to an injury crisis up top. Can't remember if it was that game but there were rumours that Lupoli was going to start upfront with Henry before the team sheet came out and he'd stuck five in midfield instead.
Rumours were probably true, I just checked and Lupoli was indeed on the bench.

If that was the case though, I don't know why he wouldn't of just put Reyes up top with Henry and started Pires on the left.

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Because Pires hated Reyes and wouldn't pass to him !
In fact Reyes was shunned by nearly everyone at Arsenal after he didn't stand up to his coach in the national team who made racist remarks about Henry .
Henry himself shrugged it off but Pires hated Reyes ever since which is a shame because I think he could have done well with us.
The amount of times he got left on his own with the ball and no one showing for a pass was embarrassing and led ultimately to his departure.

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Herd wrote:Because Pires hated Reyes and wouldn't pass to him !
In fact Reyes was shunned by nearly everyone at Arsenal after he didn't stand up to his coach in the national team who made racist remarks about Henry .
Henry himself shrugged it off but Pires hated Reyes ever since which is a shame because I think he could have done well with us.
The amount of times he got left on his own with the ball and no one showing for a pass was embarrassing and led ultimately to his departure.
Funny you should mention this because I recently read on another Arsenal forum that Reyes was apparently bullied by our French players, I never heard of it at the alleged time.

Looking back, it's a bit of a piss take that Reyes essentially killed Pires' Arsenal career only to then retreat back to Spain after his form dropped and he couldn't recover. Robert was twice the player (even at that age) and Reyes turned out to be a waste of time in the end.

Pires' guile and technical brilliance would've been of so much more use than a mentally shot Reyes.

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VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:
Herd wrote:Because Pires hated Reyes and wouldn't pass to him !
In fact Reyes was shunned by nearly everyone at Arsenal after he didn't stand up to his coach in the national team who made racist remarks about Henry .
Henry himself shrugged it off but Pires hated Reyes ever since which is a shame because I think he could have done well with us.
The amount of times he got left on his own with the ball and no one showing for a pass was embarrassing and led ultimately to his departure.
Funny you should mention this because I recently read on another Arsenal forum that Reyes was apparently bullied by our French players, I never heard of it at the alleged time.

Looking back, it's a bit of a piss take that Reyes essentially killed Pires' Arsenal career only to then retreat back to Spain after his form dropped and he couldn't recover. Robert was twice the player (even at that age) and Reyes turned out to be a waste of time in the end.

Pires' guile and technical brilliance would've been of so much more use than a mentally shot Reyes.
Taking Bobby off in Paris killed his Arsenal career. Genuinely believe he would have stayed had we brought Hleb or Freddie off instead.

He says as much here:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Football% ... 0146305900

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Wigan. And it worked. Which makes me honk that he's not as blind as he seems, he is just so fucking determined to prove that his way can work.

A manager who has no idea with subs and openly admits he pays no attention to the opposition when preparing for a game. Who would have thought it watching us on the pitch?

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Wenger prefers mint ones to cherry passion.........oh wait,TACTICS??? :oops: :oops: :oops:

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robbo10 wrote:Wenger prefers mint ones to cherry passion.........oh wait,TACTICS??? :oops: :oops: :oops:
was just going to post a similar joke..obviously you have joked for thirty years and i have zero years experience.

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Bradywasking wrote:
robbo10 wrote:Wenger prefers mint ones to cherry passion.........oh wait,TACTICS??? :oops: :oops: :oops:
was just going to post a similar joke..obviously you have joked for thirty years and i have zero years experience.
Ha ha ha,a leeetel beet longer than 30 years,but not much in the last 10!! :wink:

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what are tactics? :?

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Whatever you do don't ask Wenker - Coz he doesn't have a feckin' clue!. :evil:

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The only tactics i know are little white mints................................. :lol:

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