Is Gibbs good enough

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
User avatar
VAVAVOOM 14
Posts: 905
Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:38 pm

Is Gibbs good enough

Post by VAVAVOOM 14 »

falkirk goon wrote:
StuartL wrote:
Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:he's good enough as a squad player but should never be starting every game like he does now. at least not for a team that (should) have title aspirations.
Unfortunately, the same can be said for Flamini, Arteta, Monreal, Mertasacker, + Sczeczney at least.
I concur,our squad contains a large pecentage of overpaid average shite.
Add Gibbs to that list.

User avatar
barnetgooner
Posts: 283
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 12:35 am
Location: London

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by barnetgooner »

VAVAVOOM 14 wrote: Add Gibbs to that list.
Very harsh - Gibbs has been one of our best players this season IMO.

User avatar
franksav63
Posts: 14520
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:07 pm
Location: Home - Whitechapel - Arsenal Block 6 - Twitter - @franksav63
Contact:

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by franksav63 »

barnetgooner wrote:
VAVAVOOM 14 wrote: Add Gibbs to that list.
Very harsh - Gibbs has been one of our best players this season IMO.
I agree with this, Gibbs is over rated and injury prone also, he maybe good going forward although his crossing is shit but in the first place I would like my defenders to actually defend and Gibbs just doesn't do this imo!

User avatar
Nos89
Posts: 4568
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:44 am

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by Nos89 »

franksav63 wrote:
barnetgooner wrote:
VAVAVOOM 14 wrote: Add Gibbs to that list.
Very harsh - Gibbs has been one of our best players this season IMO.
I agree with this, Gibbs is over rated and injury prone also, he maybe good going forward although his crossing is shit but in the first place I would like my defenders to actually defend and Gibbs just doesn't do this imo!
Totally disagree, Gibbs is the best left back in the country (imo)...yes better than Baines and Shaw. He's played at the top level in club football his entire career.The system wenger plays has our full backs going forward rather than defending, however, he rarely lets us down in his defending. Our weakness has been on the right in Debuchy's absence. Chambers has done well but he's been ripped apart on occasions by pacey skilful wingers, Gibbs on the other hand hasn't. I can't think of a left back I'd rather have in our team.

User avatar
Henry Norris 1913
Posts: 8374
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:25 pm

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by Henry Norris 1913 »

VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:
falkirk goon wrote:
StuartL wrote:
Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:he's good enough as a squad player but should never be starting every game like he does now. at least not for a team that (should) have title aspirations.
Unfortunately, the same can be said for Flamini, Arteta, Monreal, Mertasacker, + Sczeczney at least.
Ww
I concur,our squad contains a large pecentage of overpaid average shite.
Add Gibbs to that list.
Well, he's one of the best players in our squad and has been our best defender for a while now , so no.

maybe we can add an even more undeserving player to the list...sanchez?

User avatar
barnetgooner
Posts: 283
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 12:35 am
Location: London

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by barnetgooner »

franksav63 wrote: I agree with this, Gibbs is over rated and injury prone also, he maybe good going forward although his crossing is shit but in the first place I would like my defenders to actually defend and Gibbs just doesn't do this imo!
Name a better left back in the PL then

User avatar
DB10GOONER
Posts: 62208
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:06 pm
Location: Dublin, Ireland.
Contact:

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by DB10GOONER »

IMHO Gibbs is a good defender on his day, a very average one on many other days. He's not the best LB in the PL, nowhere near it. Admittedly our "system" (for what it is) puts extra pressure on him to get forward but that's quite common in modern football. Gibbs' problem is he often gets caught wrong side when defending. He doesn't read the game well. Still, when he's not injured he is a good defender, just not great.

But if we accept that a big part of his job as an LB is getting forward and getting crosses in then he is shockingly shite at that vital part of the game. He is simply the worst crosser of a ball I've ever seen in over 40 years of watching football. :roll:

I wouldn't be devastated if we replaced him tbh. :|

User avatar
Bradywasking
Posts: 6259
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:14 am

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by Bradywasking »

Think one Of Gibbs' biggest problems is when the opposition is not attacking on his side. He tends to go towards the ball, be it in the centre or opposite side, leaving an acre of room behind him. As left backs go in the Premier League he is ok.

User avatar
Yankee_Gooner_Dandee
Posts: 2902
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:04 pm
Location: Chicago, Illinois

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by Yankee_Gooner_Dandee »

I don't have any issues with Gibbs other than he's made of glass.

User avatar
franksav63
Posts: 14520
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:07 pm
Location: Home - Whitechapel - Arsenal Block 6 - Twitter - @franksav63
Contact:

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by franksav63 »

barnetgooner wrote:
franksav63 wrote: I agree with this, Gibbs is over rated and injury prone also, he maybe good going forward although his crossing is shit but in the first place I would like my defenders to actually defend and Gibbs just doesn't do this imo!
Name a better left back in the PL then
Foreign? Kolarov, Aspelacuta (spelling??)
and (English) on today's showing Bertrand!

The main issue with the glass ankled Gibbs is that he lets the player he marks get the cross in too easily every time, which for a left back is the main objective in stopping! Imo all the current English left backs aren't up to much, very average!!

User avatar
northbank123
Posts: 12436
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:05 am
Location: Newcastle

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by northbank123 »

Gibbs is okay. There are better players out there but he's solid enough and certainly not one of our main worries.

He is disappointingly wasteful going forward. I'm pretty old school in that I think that defending is a more important asset for a full-back than attacking, and the league is packed full of Kyle Walkers and Luke Shaws who bomb forward and are somehow rated as good attacking full-backs despite having zero end product, and Gibbs is generally okay at defending. He gets into good positions going forward but just doesn't know what to do and ends up fluffing it.

For what it's worth I rate Azpilicueta.

User avatar
augie
Posts: 30983
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:03 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by augie »

barnetgooner wrote:
franksav63 wrote: I agree with this, Gibbs is over rated and injury prone also, he maybe good going forward although his crossing is shit but in the first place I would like my defenders to actually defend and Gibbs just doesn't do this imo!
Name a better left back in the PL then


Seriously ?? Baines pisses all over gibbs for certain and then there is a load of left backs listed above, that are at least as good and some better than gibbs 8) Gibbs is your stereotypical modern arsenal player......lightweight, injury prone, lazy and positionally indisciplined and the weakest first choice left full that we have had in over 30 years :oops: :oops:

officepest
Posts: 5072
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:27 am
Location: Lacking a little bit of sharpness in the final third.

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by officepest »

Kolarov.

At least we'd have someone who understands a fucking set-piece.

Ditto Baines.

User avatar
barnetgooner
Posts: 283
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 12:35 am
Location: London

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by barnetgooner »

augie wrote:
Seriously ?? Baines pisses all over gibbs for certain and then there is a load of left backs listed above, that are at least as good and some better than gibbs 8) Gibbs is your stereotypical modern arsenal player......lightweight, injury prone, lazy and positionally indisciplined and the weakest first choice left full that we have had in over 30 years :oops: :oops:
Baines is so overrated; never played in the Champions League and was totally shown up in the World Cup in the summer. Yes he can take free kicks and corners but as a defender nothing special. Azpilicueta is a decent player but is not even left footed. Kolarov is arguably better than Gibbs but Clichy still gets plenty of games so he can't be all that.

Our worst starting LB in 30 years?! Can't see how anyone can argue Gibbs is worse than Clichy - GC made constant costly howlers which I can't remember Gibbs doing, plus Gibbs gets a few goals while Clichy couldn't shoot to save his life.

I would much rather have Winterburn or Cole but LB just isn't a priority at the moment - GK, centre back, centre mid and striker are much bigger problem positions.

arseofacrow
Posts: 6173
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:06 pm
Location: Cologne

Re: Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

Post by arseofacrow »

I'm glad we've cleared up the left back thing.

:lol:

Post Reply