Serge Gnabry
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Serge Gnabry
What the fuck is going on with him? I know he suffered from injuries but the last 2 years have been a complete write-off for a player who looks like he could be the real deal. In his rare outings he looks fast, strong, skilful and knows where the goal is - not saying I would want him to be a first-choice regular but this situation is a farce. He would have been far better off at us (or another club) and in fact would have had far more game time.
I would much rather see him than either Walcott or Chamberlain on the wings. Instead he is rotting in the reserves at West Brom - not in the squad today and has come on for one PL appearance all season. You can never be guaranteed that another club will play your loanees but there would surely have been at least 4 or 5 other PL clubs who would have had him this season so we could have sought some pretty firm assurances and built in a termination clause in case he wasn't playing.
Have to question the wisdom of loaning a youngster out to a dinosaur of a manager who hates Wenger and has a huge agenda against our club. A manager who saw fit to come out in October and tell the whole country that Gnabry just isn't good enough to play for West Brom - imagine what that must have felt like to the kid. Especially knowing that he was going to have to piss away another 9 months at a key stage of his development training with the reserves at West Brom.
I would much rather see him than either Walcott or Chamberlain on the wings. Instead he is rotting in the reserves at West Brom - not in the squad today and has come on for one PL appearance all season. You can never be guaranteed that another club will play your loanees but there would surely have been at least 4 or 5 other PL clubs who would have had him this season so we could have sought some pretty firm assurances and built in a termination clause in case he wasn't playing.
Have to question the wisdom of loaning a youngster out to a dinosaur of a manager who hates Wenger and has a huge agenda against our club. A manager who saw fit to come out in October and tell the whole country that Gnabry just isn't good enough to play for West Brom - imagine what that must have felt like to the kid. Especially knowing that he was going to have to piss away another 9 months at a key stage of his development training with the reserves at West Brom.
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Re: Serge Gnabry
too fat, needs to eat a bit less to be taken seriously as a footballer.
I don't know how you prefer him over Walcott or OX. When the dumpling can't even make the Baggies bench
I don't know how you prefer him over Walcott or OX. When the dumpling can't even make the Baggies bench
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Re: Serge Gnabry
Not saying that he will be the real deal by any means but given that he has only made a handful of appearances for us I think he showed plenty. Seem to remember him helping us to victory at Swansea with a good goal and Palace by winning a penalty, not to mention giving Spurs a torrid time in the FA Cup and creating a goal with a wonderful run.Rosie_titters wrote:too fat, needs to eat a bit less to be taken seriously as a footballer.
I don't know how you prefer him over Walcott or OX. When the dumpling can't even make the Baggies bench
Couldn't exactly do much worse than Walcott and Ox are on the wings. At least he is direct and will run at defenders - we looked miles better today when Campbell came on even though he is horrendously ineffective in the area because he changed the tempo and creates space by running at players. Christ look how much game time Campbell has got out wide recently (never going to make it with us), not to mention Gibbs and Iwobi both coming on there a few times and the tired old failed Ramsey experiment out wide.
Either way the bottom line is why are we loaning out players to clubs that are simply not going to play them. To be honest if we loaned Chamberlain to West Brom he wouldn't be near their side right now. Pulis would take great joy in playing PL journeymen cloggers whilst watching pampered Arsenal youngsters rot. Seems particularly ridiculous that he will have to spend another 5 months there even though the whole world can see there is zero benefit to anybody.
Re: Serge Gnabry
I agree that the situation with gnarby is a disgrace.......we should have terminated his loan within minutes of pubis publicly slating the kid
I don't know if he is good enough or not, but I know that we will never find out if he doesn't getting some playing time to aid his development. Over the past 20 years we have had loads of kids that appeared destined for the very top but for a mixture of reasons, their careers never amounted to much
I wouldn't be betting my house on gnarby proving himself to be top quality, but I sure as hell want him to be given a chance before being written off and slated over his weight


I don't know if he is good enough or not, but I know that we will never find out if he doesn't getting some playing time to aid his development. Over the past 20 years we have had loads of kids that appeared destined for the very top but for a mixture of reasons, their careers never amounted to much

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Re: Serge Gnabry
Why not stock up on timber if you’re told by a *word censored* like Pubis that you’ve basically no chance of playing in the first-team two months into the season?Rosie_titters wrote:too fat, needs to eat a bit less to be taken seriously as a footballer.
I don't know how you prefer him over Walcott or OX. When the dumpling can't even make the Baggies bench
He (pubis) is clearly a monumental cock - as seen by his public faux-matey criticism of another dick, Berahino. If you’re not a hard-working clog-merchant then you may as well down tools, because a fossil like Pubis won’t give you a fair crack of the whip.
The sooner this farcical loan ends the better.
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Re: Serge Gnabry
Likewise why bother loaning out Jenkinson again? He's not going to be our first choice and we know he's not going to come back here to play back-up now - he's not going to play for us again so why loan him out? Should have either sold him or kept him as back up.
The sensible thing to do would have been to have him as back-up RB and competition for Bellerin this season whilst loaning out Chambers who still massively lacks game-time and experience at senior level. Instead we loan out Jenkinson so that another club can reap the benefit of his improvement and experience from last season and continue to stunt Chambers' development by giving him the odd arse-end substitute appearance in whatever area we are struggling most in. Probably the one player who most needs first-team experience in our squad and he's not loaned out.
I'm just venting in all directions because I am not ready to go back to work on Monday

The sensible thing to do would have been to have him as back-up RB and competition for Bellerin this season whilst loaning out Chambers who still massively lacks game-time and experience at senior level. Instead we loan out Jenkinson so that another club can reap the benefit of his improvement and experience from last season and continue to stunt Chambers' development by giving him the odd arse-end substitute appearance in whatever area we are struggling most in. Probably the one player who most needs first-team experience in our squad and he's not loaned out.
I'm just venting in all directions because I am not ready to go back to work on Monday


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Re: Serge Gnabry
northbank123 wrote:Likewise why bother loaning out Jenkinson again? He's not going to be our first choice and we know he's not going to come back here to play back-up now - he's not going to play for us again so why loan him out? Should have either sold him or kept him as back up.
The sensible thing to do would have been to have him as back-up RB and competition for Bellerin this season whilst loaning out Chambers who still massively lacks game-time and experience at senior level. Instead we loan out Jenkinson so that another club can reap the benefit of his improvement and experience from last season and continue to stunt Chambers' development by giving him the odd arse-end substitute appearance in whatever area we are struggling most in. Probably the one player who most needs first-team experience in our squad and he's not loaned out.
I'm just venting in all directions because I am not ready to go back to work on Monday![]()
Should of sold Jenkinson. No doubt he's improvement has been because he is playing regularly. He would go backwards if he was just back up RB just like Debuchy. Debuchy came to us as France number 1 RB and replaced Sagna and ok had some bad injuries but due to not playing regular football he has looked average.
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Re: Serge Gnabry
Yet again all these things are failures in AW management, you don't have players available and not rotate them to give the first team an occasional rest and then expect them to come in at a moments notice and expect them to play like they've had 10 starts.
Chambers, Debuchy and Gabriel have all suffered from this problem this season.
AW flogs players into the mystical red zone and then wonders why they pick up injuries and then take forever to recover.
Serge's loan was a farce, as has been Jenks, as was Coq's up until his recall, AW just does not understand the modern game. If you are going to loan a player they have to get game time otherwise what is the point, out of the three named only Jenks has managed regular game time and i honestly don't see him coming back to us to be a constantly unused sub or only playing in cup games.
I'd like to see Serge recalled but even then i can't see him getting game time here either with Wengers first team policy.
Chambers, Debuchy and Gabriel have all suffered from this problem this season.
AW flogs players into the mystical red zone and then wonders why they pick up injuries and then take forever to recover.
Serge's loan was a farce, as has been Jenks, as was Coq's up until his recall, AW just does not understand the modern game. If you are going to loan a player they have to get game time otherwise what is the point, out of the three named only Jenks has managed regular game time and i honestly don't see him coming back to us to be a constantly unused sub or only playing in cup games.
I'd like to see Serge recalled but even then i can't see him getting game time here either with Wengers first team policy.
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Re: Serge Gnabry
Even if he is overweight, under played and out of form he'd still be a better option than the hapless Ox.
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Re: Serge Gnabry
Bring the lad back here and give him a chance in the team.
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The thing is even if we bring him back, Wengers rotation policy is awful, so he won't get games here either. A player rotates in and has a good game to find himself back on the bench while a Wenger favorite stinks the place out week after week. You only need to witness Chamberlain and Mertesacker to see this (and possibly Walcott). Both should be on the bench for Campbell and Gabriel.
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Re: Serge Gnabry
He is on the way back to us arsenal have recalled him from west brom
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Re: Serge Gnabry
Cheers for listening Arsenemcdowell42 wrote:He is on the way back to us arsenal have recalled him from west brom
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northbank123 wrote:Cheers for listening Arsenemcdowell42 wrote:He is on the way back to us arsenal have recalled him from west brom

Now, Rosicky next.

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Re: Serge Gnabry
A ha, internal solutions has arrivedmcdowell42 wrote:He is on the way back to us arsenal have recalled him from west brom
