The Rich List

[Cockerill's chin]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7242490.stm

I don't understand how the chavs can be 13million ahead of us on turnover. The rich list shows gate/merchandise and broadcasting revenue all of which I'd expect the Arsenal to be ahead.

We regularly sell out AG compared to the blue seats at Stamford Bridge, and we must sell more merchandise than the chavs.

I know the figures don't reflect profitability, just turnover, but can anyone explain why we are still a way behind after the AG move?

[REB]

there last seasons figures and chelsea got a lot more tv money then us as they were in more towards the end of season,, next season will see us prob up to third behind man u and madrid

[flash gunner]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7242490.stm

I don't understand how the chavs can be 13million ahead of us on turnover. The rich list shows gate/merchandise and broadcasting revenue all of which I'd expect the Arsenal to be ahead.

We regularly sell out AG compared to the blue seats at Stamford Bridge, and we must sell more merchandise than the chavs.

I know the figures don't reflect profitability, just turnover, but can anyone explain why we are still a way behind after the AG move?

I read the same thing on skysports.com this morning and thought the same as you cockerills chin. Is that really the reason Rebel? seems a bit strange to me

[donaldo]

How come we were the 2nd richest club in the world in October now we are the third richest in England? Someone is telling porky pies. As has been said earlier we have 20,000 more fans every home game than Chelski.
20,000 x an average ticket price of £40 = £800,000 a game!!!!!!

[mrgnu1958]

In life i always follow this rule..
NEVER believe everything you read

[Gimp_mask]

Why worry about money when we have Mr Wenger.

[SPUDMASHER]

In life i always follow this rule..
NEVER believe everything you read

Don't believe you

[augie]

Surely given the prudence/tightarse shown by our board and manager we will be THE richest club soon. After all our balance sheet is a joy to behold and is a source of great pride for everyone associated with the club

[I Hate Hleb]

ARSENAL'S FIGURES DON'T INCLUDE THE MONEY (£20 ODD MILLION?) ACCRUED BY SELLING SOME OF THE FLATS AS IT'S NOT FOOTBALL RELATED.

AS WELL AS MORE TV REVENUE THAN ARSENAL LAST SEASON, CHELSEA ALSO NEGOTIATED BIGGER SPONSORSHIP DEALS THAN US BECAUSE THE ARSENAL BOARD WERE SO DESPARATE FOR MONEY TO COMPLETE ASHBURTON GROVE, THAT THEY SOLD THE COMMERCIAL RIGHTS A LOT CHEAPER THAN WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE GOING PRICE FOR A CLUB OF OUR SIZE AND STATURE.

[Cockerill's chin]

I didn't think the extra tv revenue and sponsorship would surpass 20k+ extra seats filled each week.

As "augie the optimist" said, we keep being told we are the prudently run club of world football. It would be nice to be higher up the league (especially above the chavs).

[Belfast Boy]

AS WELL AS MORE TV REVENUE THAN ARSENAL LAST SEASON, CHELSEA ALSO NEGOTIATED BIGGER SPONSORSHIP DEALS THAN US BECAUSE THE ARSENAL BOARD WERE SO DESPARATE FOR MONEY TO COMPLETE ASHBURTON GROVE, THAT THEY SOLD THE COMMERCIAL RIGHTS A LOT CHEAPER THAN WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE GOING PRICE FOR A CLUB OF OUR SIZE AND STATURE.

Well you might think that £100M for the AG rights is not much and others have also suggested that we might have sold out too cheap but seein as our board have a reputation for bein completely ruthless at the negotiating table, with the Madrid president famously sayin following the Anelka transfer that you have to count your fingers after dealing with us, I wouldn't be so sure!
You have to remember that just as people were sayin the same thing following the TH14 transfer, the facts are that Barcelona paid the majority of the fee up front instead of over the customary 3 or 4 years because our priority is to reduce the balance of our loan and therefore the interest and eventually pay it off all together, so it's either 100M in the intial period of the loan or say 150M over the full term of the deal and we can either play second fiddle to the Manc. Chavs and Real etc. in financial terms for years and years or bite the bullet get the loan gone!

[Sutch]

Apparentely Diamond Club earns as much as Highbury used to according to Charlie George. Go on a tour wit hhim he' sa quality proper legend mate.

[I Hate Hleb]

I didn't think the extra tv revenue and sponsorship would surpass 20k+ extra seats filled each week...

WELL, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY DO. FOR EXAMPLE WE GET SOMETHING LIKE £3-4 MILLION PER SEASON SHIRT SPONSERSHIP, CHELSEA GET OVER £10 MILLION PER YEAR. IN TERMS OF TV REVENUE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES TO HAND I DO KNOW THAT
CHELSEA FINISHED HIGHER IN THE LEAGUE, WON BOTH DOMESTIC CUPS AND WENT FURTHER THAN US IN EUROPE. BECAUSE OF THAT THEY WERE ON TELEVISION MORE THAN US, THEREFORE IT IS LOGICAL THAT THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED SUBSTANTIALLY MORE TV REVENUE THAN ARSENAL.

AS FOR THE 20,000 EXTRA SEATS, ARSENAL ACTUALLY PULLED IN SOMETHING LIKE £15 MILLION MORE IN MATCH DAY INCOME, SO IT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. CONSIDERING THAT FACT, IT PROVES THAT THERE MUST BE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE TV & COMMERCIAL INCOMES EARNED BY ARSENAL AND CHELSEA FOR THERE TO BE THE DIFFERENTIATION IN TOTAL TURNOVER BETWEEN THE TWO CLUBS (ABOUT £13 MILLION) THAT THERE IS - DESPITE ARSENAL'S EXTRA CAPACITY.

B.B.

KEITH EDELMAN HIMSELF ADMITTED THAT THE CLUB DIDN'T GET AS MUCH AS THEY COULD HAVE BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS AND THE NECCESSITY TO GET MONEY IN QUICKLY IN ORDER TO SECURE FURTHER LOANS FROM BANKING INSTITUTIONS FOR THE BUILDING OF ASHBURTON GROVE.

NOW COME ON PEOPLE, WHY ARE YOU DOUBTING ME? IF I COULD BE ARSED I WOULD PULL UP ALL THE RELEVANT INFO TO PROVE MY CASE, BUT LIFE'S TOO SHORT. GIVEN MY PAST HISTORY OF BEING RIGHT ALL THE TIME (WELL, ALMOST ), I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT MY WORD WAS NOT DEEMED TO HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH BY SOME OF YOU!! REALLY!!

[QuartzGooner]

According to Wolrd Soccer magazine:

Chelsea earned more tv revenue because of how the Champions League money is distributed.

Each country gets a set amount of money for the group stage, to divide between it's teams. The higher a team finishes in the domestic league, the greater the percentage of the tv money goes to that team.

Even though Liverpool got to the Champions League final and Chelsea did not, Chelsea earned more than them from last year's Champions League, because of finishing higher in the Premier league.

[I Hate Hleb]

AND THERE IS THAT REASON AS WELL, WHICH I KNEW BUT COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT ... JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU GET A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF CHAMPIONS LEAGUE REVENUE DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU FINISHED IN YOUR DOMESTIC LEAGUE THE SEASON PREVIOUS. IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE TV CONTRACTS FOR THE C.L. WHEN TEAMS OTHER THAN THE CHAMPIONS WERE ADDED TO THE EXPANDED CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.