club or country

redarmy7 · Post by **redarmy7** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:34 am

united fans are pretty well known for their don't give a fcuk attitude towards england, probably more so the fa, if it mean't england winning the world cup/euro cup would you sacrifice arsenal winning say the league or the champs league for it.

Fabrestuta · Post by **Fabrestuta** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:44 am

There's a lot to be said for both. To be fair clubs pay these players wages and therefore its their livelihood, but any player should be proud of representing their country.

The only time I ever have a problem with club v country is when there's ridiculous friendlies in the middle of important parts of the season, and your best players head off to play the likes of Andorra, who are just going to be cannon fodder anyway.

redarmy7 · Post by **redarmy7** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:04 am

i'm not asking from the players/clubs point of view, its your own personal choice i'm interested in, giving up seeing your team that you pay out for week in week out, or however often you are able to go, not win anything for the sake of the country to win a competition.
i don't mind putting my neck on the line and be criticised for the fact that i'd rather see utd win all day long, thats just the way i feel i'm afraid, yes i'll watch an england game but i feel no passion whilst i'm watching. thats just me

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:04 am

UP TO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I MIGHT HAVE SAID YES - ONLY BECAUSE THE WHOLE OF THE GAME IN ENGLAND WOULD HAVE GOT A BOOST FROM IT.

HOWEVER, SINCE THE MEDIA AND OTHER CLUBS FANS HAVE ADOPTED THE 'BLAME ARSENAL FOR ALL OF ENGLAND'S ILLS' ATTITUDE, I WOULDN'T EVEN TRADE THE CARLING CUP FOR AN ENGLAND WORLD CUP WIN!!

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:10 am

Club All The Way

Fabrestuta · Post by **Fabrestuta** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:30 am

redarmy7 wrote:i'm not asking from the players/clubs point of view, its your own personal choice i'm interested in, giving up seeing your team that you pay out for week in week out, or however often you are able to go, not win anything for the sake of the country to win a competition.
i don't mind putting my neck on the line and be criticised for the fact that i'd rather see utd win all day long, thats just the way i feel i'm afraid, yes i'll watch an england game but i feel no passion whilst i'm watching. thats just me

I know I was trying to look at it objectively. I don't mind our players heading off for internationals, but I meant I resent the fact that we lose players to injuries in stupid friendlies, van Persie is a perfect example. If its a qualifying game for a big tournament I have absolutely no problem with it, and in fact I think they should play.

I have lived in America for a few years, and big name players more or less turn their backs on their national teams, and I think thats just wrong.

RaM · Post by **RaM** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:53 am

I couldn't give a fuck about the English national team.

Post by **flash gunner** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:19 am

Since the early 90's i havent cared about the national team i always find it hard to cheer for a manure or sp*rs player scoring for England when all the rest of the time i hate them and think they are shite!!!! This might make meshallow but i dont care, Arsenal before anything in my eyes

southampton gooner · Post by **southampton gooner** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:34 am

Arsenal all the way. Used to go watch England a lot at Wembley but football was shyt. Would take M Mouse cup over World cup now. If England won world cup paper headlines next day would be "England win world cup without any help from Arsenal"

Post by **REB** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:57 am

even if the it was the arsenal youth team playing the same time as eire id still watch the arsenal,,now i do like to see my country do well but its not going to kill me if they lose the way it does for the arsenal

club always first,,

born a gooner,, die a gooner

TheOne2Smooth · Post by **TheOne2Smooth** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:58 am

England play boring football there are to many ego's its a absoulute shambles!
I'll choose Arsenal over England anyday

Charlie! Charlie! · Post by **Charlie! Charlie!** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:06 am

Club for me.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:34 am

We did this thread last year and I'm still answering the same; Club very time.

Post by **REB** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:43 am

DB10GOONER wrote:We did this thread last year and I'm still answering the same; Club very time.

was thinking the same about this thread,,
suppose a lot of stuff we do now is recycled due to the amount of newbies on here

where the veterans now DB10,, be looking for a testimonial soon

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:44 am

Would I sacrifice club glory for country glory? I would rather have both but club glory edges it for me. It is important for me that country does well at all levels and I don't mind the friendlies, Fa's do need money after all, just wish they could be a tad less reckless with half fit players