Senderos

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Ras Dam
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Post by Ras Dam »

I'd like to come out in defence of Big Phil. In the 13 starts and 2 sub appearances that he's had in the league this season we've lost a grand total of zero. In fact we only lost two games with Senderos in the team, away to both Sevilla and Liverpool in the Champions League.

When Toure was busy on ACN duty, Senderos was a rock for us. He makes a mistake against Liverpool in the Quarter Finals and everyones calling him absolutely useless again. Completely overlooking the number of mistakes that Toure makes and to a lesser extent Gallas.

Give the man a break. If anything we should get rid of Djourou, he's so scared of making a mistake that he pretty much refuses to for anything near a 50-50 challenge. At least Senderos has the courage and strength of character to take chances.

It annoys me that there are so few fans out there that actually see that he isn't as bad as he is made out to be. Once again it goes to show you that people place more meaning in reputations than actual stats and ability.

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Post by burns718 »

this is some smooth suming up :lol: :oops: :wink:

have to agree though

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Post by Ras Dam »

20 odd views and no one else was willing to reply. I figured it was because they didn't want to admit that they were wrong or that because I'm new and they didn't want to call me stupid.

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Post by ko king »

i got to say he has been ok of late, but i,m so not a sendros fan!!!!

i think he loses it in big games!!

i would like to see him replaced


sorry!!!

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Post by Ras Dam »

ko king wrote:i got to say he has been ok of late, but i,m so not a sendros fan!!!!

i think he loses it in big games!!

i would like to see him replaced


sorry!!!
The defeat to Middlesborough and Liverpool would suggest that Toure also loses it in big games. Should we let him go too?

How about Gallas losing it in the game against Birmingham?

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Post by REB »

sorry but when it comes to senderos id rather stay quiet :roll:
he's just not good enough for the arsenal :oops:

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Post by MizzNaughty »

gotta agree with rebel on this one.. he just doesnt cut it

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Post by Magic Merse »

He can play good at times and bad at times.

But at no time can you sey he fills you with confidence.

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Post by flash gunner »

Senderos is not good enough Ras. The sooner he goes the better

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Post by Lethal »

it really is as simple as this

HE IS NOT ARSENAL QUALITY

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Post by T.S »

Toure is good enough and has proven it (invincibles season, etc.). Big Phil's form comes and goes. When he's good, he's pretty good. When he's bad, he's Cyganesque. Bottom line - he's a liability. You never quite know which Senderos you're going to get on the pitch, so the sooner he goes, the better.

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Post by Ras Dam »

I'm keeping faith in the man and I hope Wenger does as well. He's better than both Song and Djourou.

And to be totally honest with you, not one of our centre backs fills me with confidence. At least the likes of Senderos has time to iron out his problems. Gallas' problems seem terminal. And the only thing I can think of that stands a chance of ridding Toure of his flaws is the captaincy.

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Post by BT »

I could be wrong, but wasn't Lehmann in goal for much of Senderos' January run? I think having a quality keeper installs more confidence in the defence and mops up some of the mistakes. I also bet that the other defenders and Flamini, Cesc etc have to work that little bit harder to compensate for Senderos' pace. Senderos is ok in europe when the pace is slower (e.g. against Milan) but most opposition know his pace is a weakness and exploit it a la Torres.

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Post by Ras Dam »

That doesn't make sense. If Senderos is better suited for Europe then he would lose games in the Premiership and not in Europe, not the other way round.

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Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

Ras Dam wrote:That doesn't make sense. If Senderos is better suited for Europe then he would lose games in the Premiership and not in Europe, not the other way round.
Do you seriously think football is that simple?

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