THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

When our manager is raising his arms in triumph, because we guaranteed a top 4 finish, then it shows you exactly the pathetic mentality he possesses. There are fans(Wenger outs included) who think he doesn't have a loser mentality, but wants to win his way. Today is the proof of what a bullshit argument that is, the man is a loser, and his players are a mirror image.

He fulfilled his promise to Kroenke, that's the ONLY thing that matters. in fact he over delivered... Stan guess what, we never got 4th. Oh No Arsene, that's terrible. No, I only went and got you 3rd.... yuk,yuk.

The judge me in May target has been achieved hence the fist pump & the shit eating grin. I fucking loathe the prick.

[Gunner Rob]

I think as many have rightly pointed out on here until he really FAILS ie falling out of the top 4 he never really is going to be under any pressure to leave.

it is just sad that this is the level of ambition at the club these days.
it will be interesting to see what happens this summer because with some really top managers coming into to the PL Wenger might actually have to do some transfer dealings this summer. But would you bet against him achieving another top 4 finish next season ? I certainly wouldn't. On we go....

[armchair]

Wenger "fist pumps" another glorious top four finish.
Ozil and Alexis look on bemused then immediately call their agent.

[SPUDMASHER]

I think as many have rightly pointed out on here until he really FAILS ie falling out of the top 4 he never really is going to be under any pressure to leave.

it is just sad that this is the level of ambition at the club these days.
it will be interesting to see what happens this summer because with some really top managers coming into to the PL Wenger might actually have to do some transfer dealings this summer. But would you bet against him achieving another top 4 finish next season ? I certainly wouldn't. On we go....

That's a sad reality but if you take the passion of being a fan out of it and look at it like a straight forward employment situation, he is doing exactly what his employer wants.
Kroenke has publicly stated that he isn't chasing trophies and the aim is to secure the financial windfall from finishing in the top four (maybe not those exact words but that was the implication). Wenger is achieving that so from an employment point of view he is achieving his targets! Simple as that really! That being the case, why would the owner want to sack him?

As fans of the club we see it differently and whilst top four year on year may not the end of the world if you're genuinely challenging for the number one spot, it is if it is the sole objective of the club. As I've said before, we don't have a right to win it. I do think that we have an obligation to genuinely try to do so and that is what I think is lacking.
There's no doubt in my mind that our failure to finish as champions this season is 100% unacceptable given the disastrous season that the other top clubs have had. The manager is 100% responsible for that failure and in the minds of the fans, me included, he should be held to account for that. However, in the mind of his employer.............

I think he'll go at the end of next season purely because his contract ends then. I don't think it'll be as a result of any type of protest.
I also think that unless he is very active and goes after some real quality this summer he'll fail to achieve that precious virtual trophy in his last year.

[armchair]

I guarantee you all this negative publicity is hurting the brand and because its all about Wenger it reflects poorly on him. It hurts his ego. He doesnt like it. He hates to be questioned. He loves to be the oracle.

Arsenal paid for extra stewarding at City yesterday with a directive to confiscate dissenting banners. This is a direct result of the protests and will have had to be discussed officially or unofficially at board level. Wenger sits in on board meetings although not a board member.

But yes, ok mate. The protests will have no influence on anything at all. Ever.

[SPUDMASHER]

You know what, it's only an opinion!

It may hurt you to hear this but I am entitled to an opinion.

My Opinion is that the brand won't suffer and the protests won't work. As said elsewhere in the last few pages the WOB brigade are only a minority among the fans still (In case that's confusing to you that means less than 50%). I think the AKB's are also a minority (again, only an opinion) and the majority of fans are somewhere in the middle.
As I've said before I think we need to change but I'm confident we won't get one yet.

I may be right, I may be wrong. I don't know that any more than you know otherwise because yours is also 'just an opinion'!


Are you sitting at home waiting for me to post?

[BFG4]

I still don't see why fans think he will leave at the end of next season. There are two reasons he hasn't signed a new deal yet. 1. the fan's anger against him, combined with our poor run of form, means he hasn't had the opportunity. 2. He is probably holding out for a big pay rise from the board. By August, the protests, banners etc. will be forgotten about, and there will be little or no dissent until our usual fuck up in March/April 2017. by that time, he will more than likely have extended his deal. In-fact, if we win on Sunday, and Spurs lose, he may sign a new deal over the summer.

[Ikechukwu1]

I guarantee you all this negative publicity is hurting the brand and because its all about Wenger it reflects poorly on him. It hurts his ego. He doesnt like it. He hates to be questioned. He loves to be the oracle.

Arsenal paid for extra stewarding at City yesterday with a directive to confiscate dissenting banners. This is a direct result of the protests and will have had to be discussed officially or unofficially at board level. Wenger sits in on board meetings although not a board member.

But yes, ok mate. The protests will have no influence on anything at all. Ever.

The protests are so ineffective that every journo has written about it and asked him about it. It's the equivalent of Mugabe claiming that he has the support of 96% of Zimbabweans and "isn't concerned". Of course, if his opponents were so irrelevant, he wouldn't go out of his way to brutalise them and silence them. If the banners and protests were so ineffective, the AKBs wouldn't plead so desperately for you to stop doing them!
Some Barca fans for instance want the current board out, and want their old president Laporta reinstated. Their protest is futile and Barca have made no attempt to stop them airing their views. Why? Because the current Barca board has majority support and can point to a Treble and that front 3.

Carry on with the protests mate and fair play. You know the putrid stench of an AKB, smells a mile off. Will tell you protest is futile, "no divine right" to run anything and "want the manager to leave with his head held high" irrespective of his shocking disrespect and arrogant contempt. The protests have shifted the narrative for certain and only comical sex-prisoners of the Mental Strength dungeon of Arsene would ever try dissuade you from protest. Carry on mate and congrats to you for doing it.

[SPUDMASHER]

You're a bit behind the times with the 'Head held high' comments Baba! I'd also challenge you to direct me to the post where I or anyone else has said:-

"want the manager to leave with his head held high" irrespective of his shocking disrespect and arrogant contempt .

If you read back you'll see that there is general agreement that his leaving that way cannot happen now. I maintain that it's really sad that it came to that, but it has and it's his own doing.
I read a lot of the press too and whilst most of them are covering the protests they're not really hyping them up and endorsing them. They're giving as much coverage to the AKB's as well.

Mugabe is a good comparison though because as you point out, he gets away with claiming 96% are behind him and he stays exactly where he is. Remind you of anyone? Can you see Mugabe's reign ending soon? No, neither can I.

[armchair]

I know its working.
Instead of everyone kissing his feet and proclaiming him a genuis for achieving yet another top four, hes being questioned about his future.
Journos who have kept quiet until now are highlighting his inadequacies. As you say it has changed the narrative and the focus.

Arsenal FC sending extra stewarding to Manchester to keep everything quiet.

Everything is going swimmingly.

One more game then its time to have a rest and reflect.

[armchair]

Also what some fail to see. It dont matter one iota if some or most press agree or disagree with the protests.
What matters is they're talking about it.

[armchair]

Twisted angry faces of Wenger supporters spitting out, yelling "HAVE SOME RESPECT" while at the same time assaulting us, spitting on us and trying to rip the banners from our hands.

Ugh

[Henry Norris 1913]

That's terrible armchair, yesterday is the worst it's been for a while.

Saw a funny banner yesterday "Keep the faith in Wenger- but he has to spend big". So you absolve him for the past years of penny pinching and think he'll change?

[OneBardGooner]

After all that happened at the city ground yesterday - For Me: The Gloves Are Definitely Off - In that we (Protesting Gooners) have tried to act with Dignity and be Civilised - In how we have conducted ourselves - The wording on the banners has been 'polite' by modern day Football Fan Standards - Jeeezzzuss the Ultra's were burning effigies of Neville - Okay so he is a cun.t - But to prevent fans who have supported and followed the team home and away for far longer than wenger has been associated with the club - from Protesting Peacefully with Banners - Truly is Disgusting.

Wenger will know all about this - the Banners being Banned/confiscated - Nothing bar Nothing happens at the club without his knowing - and probably say so.

The club/Wenger have taken this to a whole new level now...and so Banners will now need to be 'To The Point' and not mince their words...

To know that a godd mate of mine or any Gooner in fact - was attacked and that the protestors were not afforded the same level of safety and protection as any other persons in the stadium, also that these actions were due to the decisions, choices and actions/in-actions of the club - Is EVIL.


So from now on I would strongly suggest - Anyone thinking of, supporting (even if only from a distance) or taking part of any Protests/Actions need to be done away from Social Media and Forums....


btw: I don't wish to seem paranoid - But does Twitter have to make PM's and such communications between persons available to external authorities like the plod or other security based organisations?

FUCK THESESCUMCUNTS - Wenger you parasitetwatcunt

[DB10GOONER]

I know its working.
Instead of everyone kissing his feet and proclaiming him a genuis for achieving yet another top four, hes being questioned about his future.
Journos who have kept quiet until now are highlighting his inadequacies. As you say it has changed the narrative and the focus.

Arsenal FC sending extra stewarding to Manchester to keep everything quiet.

Everything is going swimmingly.

One more game then its time to have a rest and reflect.

Mate, look I don't want to piss on your parade here, and I fully support the protest, but I honestly don't agree it's working tbh. It's causing a stir certainly, but no more a stir than some of the ludicrous things Wenger says at most pressers. The media take on it is that a tiny minority of "ungrateful spoilt brats" are having a moan but the vast majority of Gooners still love, worship and support Wenger.

I honestly think the only two ways he goes is either when he decides he's had enough or if (and it's a big if) a huge number of Gooners are protesting to the extent that the media start covering it without their current biased "look at these ungrateful fuckers" attitude and that coverage then starts to hurt the brand, which is all Mediocrity Stan cares about. That, unfortunately ain't happening yet.

Also, unfortunately, the Euro's are coming up and if Ingerland get knobbed on pennos by Germany, or the hooligan trash raise their ugly heads again, or Rooney is caught with a granny's vadge stuck to his face, then the media won't give a flying fuck about the protests at Arsenal.

But again, I've nothing but respect and support for those protesting - particularly at risk of being assaulted by complete JCL cúnts into the bargain.