The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[nut flush gooner]

Just seen that on the morning of the Nice atrocity, Nigel Farage was a guest on T.V.A.M. where a woman presenter basically accused him and the "Brexit" voters of being responsible for the massacre as he/we had caused the divisions whish led to it.
This anti leave bullshit has got to fucking stop!

I am surprised anyone treats TV am as a seriously credible news program, given we have the likes of Garraway and Piers Morgan anchoring. I never did get why Suzanne Reid left the BBC. It can only be for the $$$.

Nigel Farage is a prick, he has the audacity to go onto TVAM and admit that the battle buses £350m claim was a lie, then resign claiming his work was done. He should be facing his European counterparts, with the likes of Johnson and Leadsom trying to trash out trade deals that will take years to ratify.

By the way you are from Rugby right? I used to travel up there regularly to visit a client of myne who was in the music industry. They had a distribution warehouse that had a large contingent of Eastern Europeans doing the less skilled jobs. I asked why there where not more home grown workers given the location, the Finance Director in no uncertain terms told me that the local workforce turned their noses up at doing this sort of work, not that they had the skills to do something else more like they couldn't be bothered. Kind of says a lot for British jobs for British workers ehh.

And if you are from Rugby what is wrong with Coventry City .

I am not saying TVAM is a credible news programme, it is the T.V. equivalent of a tacky tabloid, and as such fuels lowest common denominator opinions,in this case that leave voters are all divisive racists.
Secondly, there are loads of distribution warehouses around Rugby, and yes, a lot of them are predominantly staffed by Eastern Europeans, However, this is not because the lazy British don't want to work in them, but because the recruitment in a lot of them is controlled by agencies, many of whom advertise any vacancies only in Eastern European countries. This sill happens despite legislation to try and prevent this. Also, as you probably know, a lot of recruitment is also done by word of mouth, so obviously this perpetuates the high ratio of Eastern Europeans in this industry.
Thirdly, yes I am from Rugby, but used to live in London,near Clissold Park, not that far from Highbury. But Charlie George is mainly responsible for me supporting Arsenal, as I told him once when joking about the amount of money he had cost me over the years!

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

[Rugby Gooner]

I am surprised anyone treats TV am as a seriously credible news program, given we have the likes of Garraway and Piers Morgan anchoring. I never did get why Suzanne Reid left the BBC. It can only be for the $$$.

Nigel Farage is a prick, he has the audacity to go onto TVAM and admit that the battle buses £350m claim was a lie, then resign claiming his work was done. He should be facing his European counterparts, with the likes of Johnson and Leadsom trying to trash out trade deals that will take years to ratify.

By the way you are from Rugby right? I used to travel up there regularly to visit a client of myne who was in the music industry. They had a distribution warehouse that had a large contingent of Eastern Europeans doing the less skilled jobs. I asked why there where not more home grown workers given the location, the Finance Director in no uncertain terms told me that the local workforce turned their noses up at doing this sort of work, not that they had the skills to do something else more like they couldn't be bothered. Kind of says a lot for British jobs for British workers ehh.

And if you are from Rugby what is wrong with Coventry City .

I am not saying TVAM is a credible news programme, it is the T.V. equivalent of a tacky tabloid, and as such fuels lowest common denominator opinions,in this case that leave voters are all divisive racists.
Secondly, there are loads of distribution warehouses around Rugby, and yes, a lot of them are predominantly staffed by Eastern Europeans, However, this is not because the lazy British don't want to work in them, but because the recruitment in a lot of them is controlled by agencies, many of whom advertise any vacancies only in Eastern European countries. This sill happens despite legislation to try and prevent this. Also, as you probably know, a lot of recruitment is also done by word of mouth, so obviously this perpetuates the high ratio of Eastern Europeans in this industry.
Thirdly, yes I am from Rugby, but used to live in London,near Clissold Park, not that far from Highbury. But Charlie George is mainly responsible for me supporting Arsenal, as I told him once when joking about the amount of money he had cost me over the years!

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

That is a fucking disgusting thing to say. My mates experience counts for nothing because he "only" works on the shop floor.It's probably YOUR fucking financial director mate,(or somebody with the same attitude), who recruited exclusively from Eastern Europe to drive down wages, and undermine union rights and work conditions. I hope that there are people who use this forum, that are also ONLY shop floor workers, who read what you think about them.

[Nos89]

Have we left yet?
I've had a mad weekend

[Brightonnxtround]

I bought a leave eu t shirt and when my 17 year old daughter saw me wearing
It said why you wearing that you a racist or soming there in lies the problem
It's a generation think I'm 56 we are worlds apart she gos to school with all nationalitys
And I'm beginning to think I maybe wrong on this issue

[DB10GOONER]

I bought a leave eu t shirt and when my 17 year old daughter saw me wearing
It said why you wearing that you a racist or soming there in lies the problem
It's a generation think I'm 56 we are worlds apart she gos to school with all nationalitys
And I'm beginning to think I maybe wrong on this issue

If your prime motivation for voting to leave was because you don't like or trust "foreigners" then, yes, you were wrong....

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I bought a leave eu t shirt and when my 17 year old daughter saw me wearing
It said why you wearing that you a racist or soming there in lies the problem
It's a generation think I'm 56 we are worlds apart she gos to school with all nationalitys
And I'm beginning to think I maybe wrong on this issue

If your prime motivation for voting to leave was because you don't like or trust "foreigners" then, yes, you were wrong....

Tbf it depends on who that foreigner is

[GranadaJoe]

I am not saying TVAM is a credible news programme, it is the T.V. equivalent of a tacky tabloid, and as such fuels lowest common denominator opinions,in this case that leave voters are all divisive racists.
Secondly, there are loads of distribution warehouses around Rugby, and yes, a lot of them are predominantly staffed by Eastern Europeans, However, this is not because the lazy British don't want to work in them, but because the recruitment in a lot of them is controlled by agencies, many of whom advertise any vacancies only in Eastern European countries. This sill happens despite legislation to try and prevent this. Also, as you probably know, a lot of recruitment is also done by word of mouth, so obviously this perpetuates the high ratio of Eastern Europeans in this industry.
Thirdly, yes I am from Rugby, but used to live in London,near Clissold Park, not that far from Highbury. But Charlie George is mainly responsible for me supporting Arsenal, as I told him once when joking about the amount of money he had cost me over the years!

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

That is a fucking disgusting thing to say. My mates experience counts for nothing because he "only" works on the shop floor.It's probably YOUR fucking financial director mate,(or somebody with the same attitude), who recruited exclusively from Eastern Europe to drive down wages, and undermine union rights and work conditions. I hope that there are people who use this forum, that are also ONLY shop floor workers, who read what you think about them.

I've worked for three blue-chip companies and other PLCs and the bollocks spouted by most of the Directors I've worked with is Wengeresque.

If you want to know the real situation, ask the people that actually do the jobs.

[DB10GOONER]

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

That is a fucking disgusting thing to say. My mates experience counts for nothing because he "only" works on the shop floor.It's probably YOUR fucking financial director mate,(or somebody with the same attitude), who recruited exclusively from Eastern Europe to drive down wages, and undermine union rights and work conditions. I hope that there are people who use this forum, that are also ONLY shop floor workers, who read what you think about them.

I've worked for three blue-chip companies and other PLCs and the bollocks spouted by most of the Directors I've worked with is Wengeresque.

If you want to know the real situation, ask the people that actually do the jobs.

Have to agree. I've never met a director or senior manager of any description that could tell the truth about anything. I'm sure there is one or two out there, but they are the exception not the rule.

[Red Snapper]

I bought a leave eu t shirt and when my 17 year old daughter saw me wearing
It said why you wearing that you a racist or soming there in lies the problem
It's a generation think I'm 56 we are worlds apart she gos to school with all nationalitys
And I'm beginning to think I maybe wrong on this issue

It does seem that as far as many remoaners are concerned there are 17.5 million xenophobic racists in this country. I expect most of those 17.5 million are paedos, mysoginists, homophobic mental cases who kick their cats as well.

Doubtless there were xenophobes voting for out but the vast majority are reasonable people who used their democratic right to vote for the option they thought was best in the long term.

[A11M11]

Don't worry about it, the young are always influenced by the loudest voice around them. We were in the 60's with Dylan preaching his protest songs. As you get older you learn to see a bigger picture. Currently the media 's interest seems to want to paint all Brexiters as uneducated extremely biased low lives where of course most of the young have benefited from some form of higher education and subsequently suffer from a superiority complex and always believe that anything bad will never happen to them. Your daughter will learn as she gets older that one day you have to get up and stand on your own two feet and then she will realise that our generation used life experience and voted to leave because we felt that it was right for her generation in the long run.

[Brightonnxtround]

Don't worry about it, the young are always influenced by the loudest voice around them. We were in the 60's with Dylan preaching his protest songs. As you get older you learn to see a bigger picture. Currently the media 's interest seems to want to paint all Brexiters as uneducated extremely biased low lives where of course most of the young have benefited from some form of higher education and subsequently suffer from a superiority complex and always believe that anything bad will never happen to them. Your daughter will learn as she gets older that one day you have to get up and stand on your own two feet and then she will realise that our generation used life experience and voted to leave because we felt that it was right for her generation in the long run.

Ya but I'm not that sure that's true anymore she has a part time job at McDonald's she works very hard serving public for very little money £4.75 an hour there abouts but she's forming friendships with hard working e u migrants , who converse in her native tongue , when I was her age there was very few foreigners mostly in Peterborough at least Italians and I did form close relationships which still endure today so when I think about it I'm a fucking hypocrite
She's only doing what I did , they just happen to be from different lands

[nut flush gooner]

I am not saying TVAM is a credible news programme, it is the T.V. equivalent of a tacky tabloid, and as such fuels lowest common denominator opinions,in this case that leave voters are all divisive racists.
Secondly, there are loads of distribution warehouses around Rugby, and yes, a lot of them are predominantly staffed by Eastern Europeans, However, this is not because the lazy British don't want to work in them, but because the recruitment in a lot of them is controlled by agencies, many of whom advertise any vacancies only in Eastern European countries. This sill happens despite legislation to try and prevent this. Also, as you probably know, a lot of recruitment is also done by word of mouth, so obviously this perpetuates the high ratio of Eastern Europeans in this industry.
Thirdly, yes I am from Rugby, but used to live in London,near Clissold Park, not that far from Highbury. But Charlie George is mainly responsible for me supporting Arsenal, as I told him once when joking about the amount of money he had cost me over the years!

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

That is a fucking disgusting thing to say. My mates experience counts for nothing because he "only" works on the shop floor.It's probably YOUR fucking financial director mate,(or somebody with the same attitude), who recruited exclusively from Eastern Europe to drive down wages, and undermine union rights and work conditions. I hope that there are people who use this forum, that are also ONLY shop floor workers, who read what you think about them.

It's pretty disgusting to label all FD's with the same brush tbh. I have loads of contact with blue collar workers mainly in the automotive and construction industries, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. All you have to do is look at the endless stream of bodged building jobs we get in this country as a result of no regulation.

[Rugby Gooner]

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

That is a fucking disgusting thing to say. My mates experience counts for nothing because he "only" works on the shop floor.It's probably YOUR fucking financial director mate,(or somebody with the same attitude), who recruited exclusively from Eastern Europe to drive down wages, and undermine union rights and work conditions. I hope that there are people who use this forum, that are also ONLY shop floor workers, who read what you think about them.

It's pretty disgusting to label all FD's with the same brush tbh. I have loads of contact with blue collar workers mainly in the automotive and construction industries, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. All you have to do is look at the endless stream of bodged building jobs we get in this country as a result of no regulation.

I didn't label ALL FD's with the same brush, I said,"your fucking financial director mate,or somebody with the same attitude."
You are the person labelling whole sections of people. This time you are claiming you can't trust Blue Collar Workers! I hope that you are in diamond or club level at the bowl, heaven forbid if you actually had to come into contact with the evil working class scum.

[GranadaJoe]

Not sure I buy that, I got to know the FD of this large US company over a number of years and I am inclined to listen to how it is from the inside out.

OK. Here is a bit from "The inside out." A mate of mine,(Graeme...he's Welsh hence the spelling), is currently working in a smallish warehouse in our area. Out of about 100 staff , 4 of them are British. The signage in the workplace is Polish,except for the H&S stuff which is duel. All the team leaders are Eastern European and give the shit jobs to the British lads. Graeme says that he can work all day without hearing anyone speaking English,and the same applies if he stays in the canteen at breaktimes. As a result of this, he and the other 3 "indigenous" lads spend their breaks in the smoking shelter,(even though only one of them smokes), or the car park. Is that enough from "the inside out" for you?

From the shop floor or the boardroom. It's not even close to who I would listen to.

That is a fucking disgusting thing to say. My mates experience counts for nothing because he "only" works on the shop floor.It's probably YOUR fucking financial director mate,(or somebody with the same attitude), who recruited exclusively from Eastern Europe to drive down wages, and undermine union rights and work conditions. I hope that there are people who use this forum, that are also ONLY shop floor workers, who read what you think about them.

It's pretty disgusting to label all FD's with the same brush tbh. I have loads of contact with blue collar workers mainly in the automotive and construction industries, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. All you have to do is look at the endless stream of bodged building jobs we get in this country as a result of no regulation.

You say it's 'disgusting to label all FDs with the same brush' (despite the fact that nobody did!),then you do the same with blue collar workers, with no hint of irony.

Also, 'trust' in general terms is not the issue. The question is, who do you believe would give you the most accurate answers about the workings of a company.
For example: This week, lowcostholidays has just gone bust. It was taking customers payments up to the minute it stopped trading. 27,000 customers have been screwed. Did the Board tell the staff the situation, or the customers? I bet the staff knew the company was in the shit, despite the actions of senior management.

[KaQaK]

Whats up mates! Ya still in?