THE WENGER THREAD

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DB10GOONER wrote:
augie wrote:We will finish top 4 so the Europa league wont have any affect on us really
Yeah, have to agree. It's what Wenger does. He gets in that magical top 4. :|

I will also now predict the scum's annual collapse at the sharp end of the season. 8)
Yer no feckin Mystic Meg with that prediction, no to top 4, £25 quid on it!.... :lol:

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Bob Bayliss wrote:Hot off the press....The Standard. Damning stuff

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 84386.html
I spotted myself at 0:26 in that video :lol: :barscarf:

Sickening to hear the shit coming out of Pravda since the latest reaming, but not really a surprise :banghead:

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Sean wrote:
Bob Bayliss wrote:Hot off the press....The Standard. Damning stuff

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 84386.html
I spotted myself at 0:26 in that video :lol: :barscarf:

Sickening to hear the shit coming out of Pravda since the latest reaming, but not really a surprise :banghead:
Just went out in the motor...Talksport ALL about Wenger..position untenable, surely he has to go blah,blah.... Jacobs is dumbfounded that Wenger is coming out and saying the club is in good shape?? Really is comedy gold.

Btw the bloke who Neville called an idiot is on later, wish I could listen to him :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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xisstential wrote:Just went out in the motor...Talksport ALL about Wenger..position untenable, surely he has to go blah,blah.... Jacobs is dumbfounded that Wenger is coming out and saying the club is in good shape?? Really is comedy gold.

Btw the bloke who Neville called an idiot is on later, wish I could listen to him :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
I'd better listen to that then :lol:

Good to meet you last night, mate. Your banner got in a lot of photos. Shame the other bloke was holding his end up so high :mrgreen:

It does seem that the teflon fraud thinks 'special circumstances' absolve him of any blame or accountability, regardless of the justified criticism he is getting. 84 days to go, new two year contract on the table. The man really doesn't give a fuck :banghead:

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Sean wrote:
xisstential wrote:Just went out in the motor...Talksport ALL about Wenger..position untenable, surely he has to go blah,blah.... Jacobs is dumbfounded that Wenger is coming out and saying the club is in good shape?? Really is comedy gold.

Btw the bloke who Neville called an idiot is on later, wish I could listen to him :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
I'd better listen to that then :lol:

Good to meet you last night, mate. Your banner got in a lot of photos. Shame the other bloke was holding his end up so high :mrgreen:

It does seem that the teflon fraud thinks 'special circumstances' absolve him of any blame or accountability, regardless of the justified criticism he is getting. 84 days to go, new two year contract on the table. The man really doesn't give a fuck :banghead:
Hey Sean...that bloke is on now as I'm typing..listening to it on my laptop. Bloke saying Wenger treats us fans like idiots.Actually brilliant what he is saying. How can Wenger an employee dictate to his employers when he leaves?? Kroenke & Gazidis are sitting waiting for Wenger to tell THEM, instead of the other way around.

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Wenkers bullshit from yesterdays press after the match ripped into pieces. Good article.

http://www.football365.com/news/f365s-e ... b-comments

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Lehmann giving us his 2 pfennigs worth...

[quote=Jens Lehmann]“I think he has to stay now, because he’s done so much for the club,”

“People are talking about his age, if he still has something to give and if he can influence people and they want a new manager to come in to bring fresh air.

“But on the other hand it’s very difficult to replace intelligence, and we all know he is a very intelligent man and manager and he’s still got the fire.

“With all he’s done for the club I think he deserves not to go on such a bad spell of results.

“He probably needs a bit more future with some new signings, and then next season could be a completely different situation.”[/quote]

He was an arsehole at the Club, and he's an arsehole now.

Fick dich Lehmann, du Arschloch!

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There was a post a few days ago asking when did Wenger change from a dynamic manager to the fraud we see today.

For me the question was wrong. He was always a fraud, but the fans didn't see it.

For me the "enlightenment" came at the CL Final 2006

Up til then he'd got lucky inheriting GG's back 5 and DB10, then got lucky again with the french connection and Sol

After that though his luck dried up, and you could see that this was a tactically clueless, arrogant, pretentious fuckwit.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Bob Bayliss wrote:Don't think so this time, sorry. Top four will be Chelsea, Tottenham, City, Liverpool. United are better equipped than we are to break in, but as I've said they are likely to prioritise elsewhere so I think we'll end up 5th by default.
I'd discount the Mousers tbh. They are even more inconsistent then us. I think they will drop away. The scum will collapse again, probably not to the same hilarious extent as last season but realistically they could be anywhere from 3rd to 5th.

For me the chav filth will win it at a canter,
citeh 2nd,
then The Arsenal, manure and scum in 3rd or 4th
with either manure, scum or mousers finishing 5th
and probably the mousers 6th.

My money will go on;

chav
citeh
manure
Arsenal
scum
mousers

And yep, we will grab that glorious 4th place trophy on the last day of the season. :oops: :roll: :lol:
I see where you're coming from but disagree.
Liverpool went into a slump in January when Mane was in Africa, they seem to have got over that and have no distractions so I think they will take at least as many points as us in the remaining games.
The Scum went into meltdown last year when what they thought was a real chance of winning the title eluded them. This year they know Chelsea have it in the bag. They will also probably have learned from last year. I think they will at least maintain their lead over us.
ManU, the suspension to Ibrahimovic will be a factor as will the Europa league. I think we will be involved in a fight to the last day with them for 5th & 6th.
Us, we have a track record of getting that top 4 spot come what may. Cazorla is out and Sanchez and Ozil are obviously not totally committed to the club or in the best frame of mind. I struggle to see where the creativity is going to come from to get the results we need.

I can see why you think Wenger can pull a Champions League spot out of the hat but I can't see this current side being galvanised to do what's needed this year.

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A youtube comment that I saw. Thought I'd share it ...

Reading this hurts!

Admir Halvadzič wrote:Mourinho came to Chelsea in 2004 and won the league 2005 and 2006.

Wenger in 2005 - building the team

Ferguson won the league 2007, 2008, 2009

Wenger in 2007, 2008, 2009... still building the team

Ancelloti came to Chelsea in 2009 and won the league in 2010.

Wenger in 2010... still building the team

Roberto Mancini came to Man city in 2010and won the league in 2012.

Wenger in 2012... still building the team

Pellegrini came to Man city in 2013 and won the league in 2014.

Wenger in 2014... still building the team

Mourinho came back to Chelsea in 2013 and won the league in 2015.

Wenger in 2015... still building the team

Claudio Ranieri came to Leicester city in 2015 and won the league in 2016

Wenger in 2016... still building the team

Antonio Conte came to Chelsea in 2016 and already taking the EPL by storm until 2017.

Wenger in 2017... still building the team

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"Theo Walcott today urged his Arsenal team-mates to put their infighting behind them and string together a run of results to save Arsene Wenger's job"
- London Evening Standard

More like to save his own Arsenal career!

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:"Theo Walcott today urged his Arsenal team-mates to put their infighting behind them and string together a run of results to save Arsene Wenger's job"
- London Evening Standard

More like to save his own Arsenal career!
The writing is now finally on the wall, high treason from Walcott to divulge player disharmony, his bum will be full of splinters!
On the bench from now on!...

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Bob Bayliss wrote:One thing that we should definitely NOT be hoping for is for Man United to win the Europa League/Cup. It dawned on me last night that the winners get a Champions' League place, and that opens up an extra place for their country: Seville won last year so Spain got an extra place; had Liverpool won the final it would have gone to the Premier League.
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague ... 65270.html

In other words, if United win the Europa Cup - and they are very hot favourites to do so - then the fourth place trophy becomes the FIFTH place trophy, and we would have to be out of the top five to miss out. So the bar is set even lower for Wenger to achieve the only performance target which Kronke/Gazidis care about.

The related danger is that Mourinho is driven by winning trophies, as any top manager should be, and that if/when United progress beyond this obscure Russian team he will put all of his eggs in that basket and take his foot off the gas in the Premiership. That would mean that we will end up in fifth even if the teams currently ahead of us stay there, unless Everton pulled back six points on us with one fewer game left to play, which won't happen.

All rather depressing, in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not 100% on the rule, but surely it's to ensure that the team that wins the Europa plays in the CL next year? Hypothetically, if Man Utd finished 15th and won the Europa, they'd go into the CL... it wouldn't just be tacked on for the team in fifth.

Assuming this is right, there's no scenario in which we can qualify for the CL by finishing fifth.

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VoiceOfReason wrote:
Bob Bayliss wrote:One thing that we should definitely NOT be hoping for is for Man United to win the Europa League/Cup. It dawned on me last night that the winners get a Champions' League place, and that opens up an extra place for their country: Seville won last year so Spain got an extra place; had Liverpool won the final it would have gone to the Premier League.
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague ... 65270.html

In other words, if United win the Europa Cup - and they are very hot favourites to do so - then the fourth place trophy becomes the FIFTH place trophy, and we would have to be out of the top five to miss out. So the bar is set even lower for Wenger to achieve the only performance target which Kronke/Gazidis care about.

The related danger is that Mourinho is driven by winning trophies, as any top manager should be, and that if/when United progress beyond this obscure Russian team he will put all of his eggs in that basket and take his foot off the gas in the Premiership. That would mean that we will end up in fifth even if the teams currently ahead of us stay there, unless Everton pulled back six points on us with one fewer game left to play, which won't happen.

All rather depressing, in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not 100% on the rule, but surely it's to ensure that the team that wins the Europa plays in the CL next year? Hypothetically, if Man Utd finished 15th and won the Europa, they'd go into the CL... it wouldn't just be tacked on for the team in fifth.

Assuming this is right, there's no scenario in which we can qualify for the CL by finishing fifth.
Thankfully it doesn't work that way. The winners will just take the other spot

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Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!

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