As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
For a club that still charges some of the highest ticket prices in the world - the lack of ambition is a fucking disgrace!
And if Arteta really is the best man we can attract to the club then Gazidis isnt selling us very well is he? It just looks like they are appointing someone they can control easily.
I have a chance of buying a mates season ticket this summer and was going to take it after Wenger was sacked ( err sorry I mean decided it was the right time to leave ). Now I am having serious doubts about giving the club anything. We all know the owner only cares about money and empty seats will hurt him even more than last season if tickets haven't been sold in the first place.
Season ticket renewal date is 1st June I think. Are they expecting people to renew regardless of any announcement being made?
Big Sam sacked at Everton.......please, please let Arteta get that job. It would be perfect for him.
They arent even linked with him - a club trying to rise up into the top tier of english football is looking for a new manager, but yet is not even slightly interested in a player that gave his best years to the club, and is rumoured to be an outstanding coach (what this rumour is based on I honestly dont know ). It says everything when a mid-table club like everton feel that arteta isnt a good enough appointment for them, but yet we are on the verge of appointing him as our new manager
I thought that too. Everton would be a perfect job for Arteta an up and coming manager but they arent interested.... Blimey things are bad at Arsenal
Vieira is managing in a pub league full of has beens and never gonna be's - it's championship level at a push. He's about 0.00001% more qualified to be Arsenal manager than Arteta is. He'd get more leeway from the fans but that's about it.
Maybe so, but he has taken that team and improved them season after season, which suggests a manager that can identify weaknesses and address them, and that is important imo. He also would have a far more commanding presence in the dressing room, and would have a much higher rep for potential recruits than a guy whose playing career was mostly built at sociadad and everton
Agreed and I'd take Vieira over Arteta every day of the week but they're both category 3 managers in my book.
Of who we've been linked with -
Category 1 - Allegri, Conte
Category 2 - Enrique (jury's out on him as category 1 for me), Jardim, Nagelsmann
Category 3 - Vieira, Arteta, Rodgers
Contrary to a lot of people on here I don't rate Ancellotti, as I think his time as an elite manager has come and gone.
For a club that still charges some of the highest ticket prices in the world - the lack of ambition is a fucking disgrace!
And if Arteta really is the best man we can attract to the club then Gazidis isnt selling us very well is he? It just looks like they are appointing someone they can control easily.
I have a chance of buying a mates season ticket this summer and was going to take it after Wenger was sacked ( err sorry I mean decided it was the right time to leave ). Now I am having serious doubts about giving the club anything. We all know the owner only cares about money and empty seats will hurt him even more than last season if tickets haven't been sold in the first place.
Season ticket renewal date is 1st June I think. Are they expecting people to renew regardless of any announcement being made?
I wonder if adidas are starting to backpeddle on the negotiations to become our kit supplier ? At the very least they should be looking to reduce the amount of money they are offering
The simple fact is the club is toxic and is owned by a cùnt who only has ambition to make more money and now run on a day to day basis by a team of fucking lizards whose only ambition is keeping their spot at the trough.
Any big organisation is led from the top. The owner sets the tone, demands what he views as acceptable returns and dictates who does what and for how long they do it. We are poison from the very top. Our cùnt owner has no football ambition and that filtrates right down through the board.
PV4 would have been a huge risk as manager but Arteta is risk at an absolute ridiculous level. If he is appointed of course I'll give him a chance but I'd be amazed if we aren't rooted in mid table under him.
Our club is owned and run by cùnts.
This ^^, one of the issues i always had with the removal of Wenger was that we'd still be unambitious and go like for like and if the rumours are true it may yet come to pass. I fucking despise Wenger but i think if we have to go through the same thing with another manager it will kill any residual love i have for the club. I want to see ambition not risk aversion management.
If it is Arteta then he deserves all the support we can give him and i genuinely wish him all the success he can get but if it goes tits up how many years should he be retained ala Wenger and how long will it be before the muppets starting calling for the return of OGL to 'steady the ship'.
The purely footballing side of the club may be being restructured but those running the corporate side of the club remain the same. This worries me as much as who gets the managers job, because there is still the stink of money over success in all this.
Why does he deserve it ? I'm not saying that we shouldnt give him our support, but I am asking what he has done to deserve it ? Is he a proven quality manager ? No. Has he any managerial experience at all ? No. Is he a former great player for the club ? No. Does he have the type of qualities that we all believe will be needed to sort this club out ? No. Does he seem like the type of manager that will prioritise our shocking defence ? Not from what he said in a previous interview with the club magaine.
There is no justifiable reason why arteta would get this job, and giving it to him ranks as a decision every bit as bad as giving the french w**ker his last two contract extension in my opinion.
Sorry Augie i probably used the wrong terminology there, 'needs' over 'deserves'?, and although i was being generous to him, whoever gets the job needs all the support they can get because they've been left with a huge cluster fuck not of their own making and whether we agree with the appointment or not it would be churlish not to support the appointee, at least until we see what they can do. At that point we can then consider getting the banners out.
In terms of Arteta, i find it odd that a manager would be happy to see one of his supposedly best coaches going to a potential rival challenging in the same league as him, a cynic might suggest that a certain manager might be happy with this appointment because it could possibly remove a rival team before the season even starts
Vieira is managing in a pub league full of has beens and never gonna be's - it's championship level at a push. He's about 0.00001% more qualified to be Arsenal manager than Arteta is. He'd get more leeway from the fans but that's about it.
Maybe so, but he has taken that team and improved them season after season, which suggests a manager that can identify weaknesses and address them, and that is important imo. He also would have a far more commanding presence in the dressing room, and would have a much higher rep for potential recruits than a guy whose playing career was mostly built at sociadad and everton
Cant judge Arteta as yet, but looking at his personal qualities just think he is too quiet, not a real leader, too familiar with the current regime and players...we need someone strong minded, experienced and able to clear out the deadwood....think he will just maintain the normal routine...hope i am wrong
Not true. Arteta ain't no shrinking violet. He does have a nasty side to his personality.
If he takes over will need a strong willed personality....as i say cant judge him as yet.....
For a club that still charges some of the highest ticket prices in the world - the lack of ambition is a fucking disgrace!
And if Arteta really is the best man we can attract to the club then Gazidis isnt selling us very well is he? It just looks like they are appointing someone they can control easily.
I have a chance of buying a mates season ticket this summer and was going to take it after Wenger was sacked ( err sorry I mean decided it was the right time to leave ). Now I am having serious doubts about giving the club anything. We all know the owner only cares about money and empty seats will hurt him even more than last season if tickets haven't been sold in the first place.
Season ticket renewal date is 1st June I think. Are they expecting people to renew regardless of any announcement being made?
I wonder if adidas are starting to backpeddle on the negotiations to become our kit supplier ? At the very least they should be looking to reduce the amount of money they are offering
I'm certain they must know how the fans feel. It won't take much for the anger to turn fully on Gazidis and the Kroenke. With so many social media outlets for fans to have their say it seems crazy they are going the Arteta route.
If it all goes wrong it won't be Arteta that I'm angry with that's for sure.
I do agree that this appointment is for Gazidis to hold the power after spending years under Wenger. Still it's not about you Gazidis it's about Arsenal FC and the huge disappointed fan base around the world.
Cant judge Arteta as yet, but looking at his personal qualities just think he is too quiet, not a real leader, too familiar with the current regime and players...we need someone strong minded, experienced and able to clear out the deadwood....think he will just maintain the normal routine...hope i am wrong
Not true. Arteta ain't no shrinking violet. He does have a nasty side to his personality.
How do you know that? I never saw that side to him at Arsenal or Everton either
Former Arsenal midfielder Mikel Arteta is very close to becoming the club's new manager, taking over from Arsene Wenger. Talks between the Gunners and the 36-year-old Spaniard have progressed well. (Independent)
Ex-Gunners captain Patrick Vieira, 41, says he has been left disappointed at the club's "token gesture" after being contacted about the vacant managerial position. (Sky Sports)
As to Arteta..and his 'nasty' side - - He was more known in the Arsenal dressing room for having impeccable hair than anything 'nasty' !
I hope he can be 'nasty' when needed, but something tells me he is not a 'hatchet' man...and at man$hitty does Mid-field coaching..which is more than wenger ever did..
Even so we NEED Allegri
Also he will be too familiar with current squad, he will have mates and favourites.....unless the Independent can prove otherwise that is
Seriously ?? He told messi to move along and you are equating that to him having "a nasty side" ?? FFS have a word with yourself man
The point is he won't let any of the squad walk over him - I'm confident of that.
He wasn't my choice but for fucks sake can we stop moaning and get behind him if it happens. There's no point whinging on and on about it.
This decision was absolutely paramount to the Arsenal moving forward, they had ages to get someone lined up.....Fuck me Arteta is a lazy easy choice IMO
Seriously ?? He told messi to move along and you are equating that to him having "a nasty side" ?? FFS have a word with yourself man
The point is he won't let any of the squad walk over him - I'm confident of that.
He wasn't my choice but for fucks sake can we stop moaning and get behind him if it happens. There's no point whinging on and on about it.
This decision was absolutely paramount to the Arsenal moving forward, they had ages to get someone lined up.....Fuck me Arteta is a lazy easy choice IMO
This in Spades - Not only Lazy but Ill-informed in the Extreme.
It reminds me of the appointment of Gareth Southgate as the new Ingerland manager only Worse.
). Now I am having serious doubts about giving the club anything. We all know the owner only cares about money and empty seats will hurt him even more than last season if tickets haven't been sold in the first place. 
...Sam.and David....Barca and Bayern are monitoring the situation.
