Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

[Wilson]

Arteta doesn't come across as a delusional knob though, does he?

Hopefully.

Nothing more dangerous than irrational self belief. Knowing your own limitations & circle of competence is one of the best qualities one can have.

[sk-gtfo]

Hey-ho who gives a f*ck?, the owner doesn't so why should we.

I'm afraid thanks to SK the Arsenal is now consigned to being a very very minor part of my life for the forseeable future, thanks Stan, you've saved me a packet.

P.S good luck with those tourist 'fans' you wig wearing w@nker.

[Riotof91]

Anyone with a brain (Obviously excludes those *word censored* on Arsenal board) could see we required someone with real experience and gravitas to sweep away the smell of Wenger.....who knows how Arteta will actually do...can only predict

Just sad its the office crawler that gets the job...

My prediction ...years of mid table obscurity.....tourists and day trippers will hopefully move up the road to the shit hole

Im done now...in fact thinking about it cannot rationalise why i love the club.....why spent thousands...travelled all round Europe....put my liberty at risk...and safety

Have to say I hate the owner...the board, the players, the Emirates ...and a large majority of the fans

Same. Can't identify with the club anymore, we died in 2006, and that to me the defining legacy of Wenger above all else.

[markyp]

absolutely staggered and disappointed with the response to Artetas potential opointment,not from us lot I might add but from some of the mongs on social media, I thought once wenger had gone the idiots would have gone too but we now have people saying 'if you don't support Arteta then you are a plastic fan!!' and 'cant believe people are writing Arteta off already,hes one of our own'! jesus fucking Christ this is how low wenger has taken us that our so called 'super fans' accept absolutely anything at all! we never had this under GG,Don howe, Terry Neill etc etc where the fans were so divided,back then we all backed or all wanted sacked none of this split like now,im fucking done with this shit,the club will never unite the fans when so many only know the last 15 years of mediocrity and think its normal,its a joke! the AKB'S live on 'in Arteta we trust

[VoiceOfReason]

For all of us who wanted Wenger gone, we have to hope Arteta is a success or the 'be careful what you wish for' 'Arsene wasn't that bad' brigade will be out in force.

But didn't you hear? Wenger said that the squad he left behind will challenge for the title. So if it does, it's all down to Arsene. Can't win either way really.

[Bob Bayliss]

The logical appointment for Arteta at this stage in his career is the Everton job. I hope he takes it.

While I would much rather have an 'A' -list manager, given how our expectations have been managed over the past couple of weeks I would settle for Rafa Benitez if it means we could dodge the Mikel bullet.

[VoiceOfReason]

If he did nothing else at least he (TH14) knows what Arsenal is all about and would kick the likes of Bellerin up the backside. Arteta wouldn’t say boo to a goose.

Actually, I'm not sure about this. Henry always seemed to defend the players when he was a pundit on Sky, even when they'd been awful and everyone else in the room was ripping them a new one. I get the sense he would prioritise being popular and friends with the players, rather than a disciplinarian who knocks them into shape. Vieira would be better in this regard, as he doesn't seem to give a shit about whether people like him or not, and isn't afraid to ruffle feathers.

[nut flush gooner]

I couldn't have told you that Guardiola had that side to him while he was a player though.

No one knows what Arteta is like as a manager. Why are you assuming because he's a "Wengerite" (whatever that means), that he would be powder puff as a manager? And who's to say he's a "Wengerite" anyway? Why couldn't he be a Guardiola man? Didn't he leave Wenger to go and work with Guardiola after all?

Whether he has a side to him or not remains to be seen. We don't know that. You weren't in the dressing room to see how he handled matters as a captain, so you can't assume anything based off of that either.

If Arteta had anything about him, City for sure wouldn't let him join Arsenal they would be lining him up for when Guardiola moves on, probably in 2021. How can you not see that?

As Arsenal fans, we have to get behind whoever the new manager is, otherwise the team will stagnate even further but don't try and convince me that Arteta is a man of great stature because he isn't.

[northbank123]

The main concern is the fact he has zero managerial experience.

I'm not worried about the rest, especially baseless suggestions of him being too immersed in the Wenger culture.

Hardly baseless - he was here for a few years and club captain during that time. Supposedly a leader in that team which celebrated at St James Park like they’d won that champions league.

Agree that that equally doesn’t necessarily mean that that would be his mentality - but baseless it is not.

[northbank123]

If he did nothing else at least he (TH14) knows what Arsenal is all about and would kick the likes of Bellerin up the backside. Arteta wouldn’t say boo to a goose.

Actually, I'm not sure about this. Henry always seemed to defend the players when he was a pundit on Sky, even when they'd been awful and everyone else in the room was ripping them a new one. I get the sense he would prioritise being popular and friends with the players, rather than a disciplinarian who knocks them into shape. Vieira would be better in this regard, as he doesn't seem to give a shit about whether people like him or not, and isn't afraid to ruffle feathers.

Has never massively struck me as somebody who would be particularly suited to management.

And for all of my complaining then you can’t knock the fact that Arteta has knuckled down and spent the last few years learning the ropes and doing the utmost to develop himself as a manager. Henry is like Gerrard and many others - can’t be arsed doing that and think they should be entitled to a big job. Might dabble in a bit of coaching if it fits around their Sky / BT schedule.

[augie]

I couldn't have told you that Guardiola had that side to him while he was a player though.

No one knows what Arteta is like as a manager. Why are you assuming because he's a "Wengerite" (whatever that means), that he would be powder puff as a manager? And who's to say he's a "Wengerite" anyway? Why couldn't he be a Guardiola man? Didn't he leave Wenger to go and work with Guardiola after all?

Whether he has a side to him or not remains to be seen. We don't know that. You weren't in the dressing room to see how he handled matters as a captain, so you can't assume anything based off of that either.

Guardiola was a ball winner for barca for years and was then a ball winner when he went to italy - you dont play in that position in those leagues, in that era, unless you have a physical side to your game.

Anyway if you want to base your opinion on what style of manager he will be, do it by reading the interview that he gave the official club magazine a few years ago - everything he said re mentality and tactical approach screamed mini wenger to me, and he has shown absolutely zero to suggest that he is a guy to bawl the players back into line. If the citeeh players needed a bollocking, do you honestly think that pep would have delegated that task to arteta ?? You are talking about the second best team in english football history (no way are they as good as our invincibles), and a top quality player in almost every single position, and you think that arteta has had a big part to play in their dominance ? I have heard of "guilt by association" , but I dont think I have ever heard about "brilliance by association" and that is exactly the suggestion you are making here - maybe if there is something to that thought process we should go and sign their tea lady to replace ours, cos she sure as shit is as qualified to manage us as arteta currently is

[GoonerMuzz]

Arteta's confidence can be seen as overconfidence and conceit just as easily as ambition and confidence.

You have to be supremely sure of yourself to walk into the job at the Arsenal currently, especially with no managerial experience to back it up. The club and team is a complete mess which needs a few seasons to sort out, i have no confidence in him because i have nothing to base it on and actually shouldn't need to he should not even be considered as an option.

I find it in keeping with the current malaise surrounding the club and fans that so many people are slowly but surely coming round to Arteta being the best/only option available and so many people finding excuses to be accepting of this appointment if it happens........ for me its reminiscent of people not being able to look beyond there being any option other than Wenger for so long

[SteveO 35]

Arteta's confidence can be seen as overconfidence and conceit just as easily as ambition and confidence.

You have to be supremely sure of yourself to walk into the job at the Arsenal currently, especially with no managerial experience to back it up. The club and team is a complete mess which needs a few seasons to sort out, i have no confidence in him because i have nothing to base it on and actually shouldn't need to he should not even be considered as an option.

I find it in keeping with the current malaise surrounding the club and fans that so many people are slowly but surely coming round to Arteta being the best/only option available and so many people finding excuses to be accepting of this appointment if it happens........ for me its reminiscent of people not being able to look beyond there being any option other than Wenger for so long

If you look at the last three Arsenal managerial appointments - Graham, Rioch, Wenger - none of them were the big names that everyone craved and there were all massive 'against' arguments for all of them. Two of them hadn't managed in the top flight, whilst the other had buggered off to the sticks of Japan. All three then massively improved upon what they inherited. Arsenal have never gone for the biggest of big name managers....so I wouldn't call it the malaise at welcoming Arteta aboard.....I see it as something nobody here will know until he's taken the job. In the same way there is absolutely no castiron guarantee that Allegri would be an instant success.

What I do know is whether its Allegri, Arteta, TH14, PV4, the 30 year old German bloke or just about anyone else who has been linked with the job (apart from you Brendan Rogers), I'll just be delighted it will be someone trying something new rather than the fraudulent old dinosaur.

[Nos89]

I couldn't have told you that Guardiola had that side to him while he was a player though.

No one knows what Arteta is like as a manager. Why are you assuming because he's a "Wengerite" (whatever that means), that he would be powder puff as a manager? And who's to say he's a "Wengerite" anyway? Why couldn't he be a Guardiola man? Didn't he leave Wenger to go and work with Guardiola after all?

Whether he has a side to him or not remains to be seen. We don't know that. You weren't in the dressing room to see how he handled matters as a captain, so you can't assume anything based off of that either.

If Arteta had anything about him, City for sure wouldn't let him join Arsenal they would be lining him up for when Guardiola moves on, probably in 2021. How can you not see that?

As Arsenal fans, we have to get behind whoever the new manager is, otherwise the team will stagnate even further but don't try and convince me that Arteta is a man of great stature because he isn't.

It obvious come 2021 if Arteta is any kind of coach he'll replace Guardiola then. Why keep hold of him when he came go out and get some experience?
That's how other clubs currently see Arsenal.

[Nos89]

For all of us who wanted Wenger gone, we have to hope Arteta is a success or the 'be careful what you wish for' 'Arsene wasn't that bad' brigade will be out in force.

But didn't you hear? Wenger said that the squad he left behind will challenge for the title. So if it does, it's all down to Arsene. Can't win either way really.

In the same way Wenger won the title with George Graham's defence. If you can get the players to work for you then it's all good. Chelski won everything with the same 5 core players but with 8 different manager's.