OZIL - Merged Thread

[DB10GOONER]

I should point out that last bit is not having a pop at you begeegs.... just a general bit of sarcasm....

[Blade]

he needs more artists around him then he can perform.

Think about that great idea.

[DB10GOONER]

he needs more artists around him then he can perform.

Think about that great idea.

cant stand Ozil.

He thinks he had the game to glide pass players a la Messi,Neymar,Ronaldhino but dosent reliaze he no skills and just throws up hand in exasperation when ball is taken off him.

 https://youtu.be/c29OpzjjXc0

[begeegs]

Ridiculous to compare Sanchez and Ozil tbh. Two totally different players. Sanchez was the better player in that he made bigger impacts in games and could score goals often from nothing but he wasn't as good a technical player as Ozil. Also similar to Ozil we didn't get the best from Sanchez and he had as many bad games as he did good ones. Funny how everyone forgets those games huh?

If you are waiting for a 29 year old creative number 10 to start learning to defend you are wasting your time. He creates chances and assists when he's on form. That what he does. He also doesn't defend he doesn't run around like Robbie Savage he doesn't man mark at corners he doesn't play in nets....

As for the team of the Wenger era I'm not even sure if Sanchez and Ozil would make the bench tbh. We had some great players in that first 10 years.... but that was all luck right.... that was all George Graham right.... or David Dein right.... nothing to do with Wenger right.... agenda right.....

The reason that I compared them is because they were in similar contractual situations last year. I am not really sure if we'd have been able to keep Sanchez, so it's purely hypothetical.

Sanchez could be really infuriating in some games, but he'd have really fit into the current system quite easily. He is completely wasted at Utd.

However, I stand by what I said. Ozil needs to adapt to the current system. As good as he is with the ball, he is no good to us if he can't adapt and defend from the front.

Personally, I would get rid in January if not sooner and I am someone who likes Ozil. I just don't see what the point is having the highest earner at the club being at odds with the system.

[Blade]

yes not asking him to run around like Robbie Savage.Just stop being so loose in possession.And WHEN you lose the ball at least hang out a leg or something.Don't just throw up arms in frustration and sulk.

[Allgunsblazin]

Did we miss him against West Ham, or were the oppo just crap?

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I have no urge to abuse the man. He did not award himself the obscene contract. But the emperor is not wearing a suit of the finest linen that only the most discerning among us can see. He is totally naked.

For all that Sanchez was high maintenance, I would have much preferred him to stay than Ozil. He may not have set the world alight at United, but he contributes more, especially when it matters (eg all three assists when they won 3-2 at City in April). He would have made the bench, along with Fabregas, in my "best Arsenal team of the Wenger era". Ozil wouldn't.

I'd agree with this. Ozil just isn't as good as Sanchez was. However, at that time, Sanchez would have had a lot of suitors out there wanting his services while Ozil may have had a couple of Chinese clubs (which is where I think that he will end up).

If he can adapt and add defending into his repertoire, which I have serious doubts about, then he will be worth his salt. Sadly, I just can't see that happening at all.

Ridiculous to compare Sanchez and Ozil tbh. Two totally different players. Sanchez was the better player in that he made bigger impacts in games and could score goals often from nothing but he wasn't as good a technical player as Ozil. Also similar to Ozil we didn't get the best from Sanchez and he had as many bad games as he did good ones. Funny how everyone forgets those games huh?

If you are waiting for a 29 year old creative number 10 to start learning to defend you are wasting your time. He creates chances and assists when he's on form. That what he does. He also doesn't defend he doesn't run around like Robbie Savage he doesn't man mark at corners he doesn't play in nets....

As for the team of the Wenger era I'm not even sure if Sanchez and Ozil would make the bench tbh. We had some great players in that first 10 years.... but that was all luck right.... that was all George Graham right.... or David Dein right.... nothing to do with Wenger right.... agenda right.....

Have to agree with this as much as ozil.can be frustrating on other days he is a majestic football player who's technique is as good as anyone's in the pl.

I do also believe we need better players around him because quite frankly most of them are gash.

I would also add that we have no real pace in the team that all top sides need especially if you are playing a number 10 role, I.e ozil would benefit immensely if we had proper pacey forwards.

We won't be able to sell him on his wages so let's try and get the best out of him.

I would also add that if he sulks off sick when he's dropped then surely that's a breach of his contract and he can be fined accordingly.

[1989]

It doesn't get much more pacy than Aubameyang as far as forwards go. Lacazette ain't no slouch either.

[Blade]

It doesn't get much more pacy than Aubameyang as far as forwards go. Lacazette ain't no slouch either.

Was stumped too...we have pace up front!.

how many more excuses needed ? more 'artists' ?

here is a proper No.10 http://dailycannon.com/2018/08/video-sa ... t-sevilla/

[StuartL]

I have no urge to abuse the man. He did not award himself the obscene contract. But the emperor is not wearing a suit of the finest linen that only the most discerning among us can see. He is totally naked.

For all that Sanchez was high maintenance, I would have much preferred him to stay than Ozil. He may not have set the world alight at United, but he contributes more, especially when it matters (eg all three assists when they won 3-2 at City in April). He would have made the bench, along with Fabregas, in my "best Arsenal team of the Wenger era". Ozil wouldn't.

I'd agree with this. Ozil just isn't as good as Sanchez was. However, at that time, Sanchez would have had a lot of suitors out there wanting his services while Ozil may have had a couple of Chinese clubs (which is where I think that he will end up).

If he can adapt and add defending into his repertoire, which I have serious doubts about, then he will be worth his salt. Sadly, I just can't see that happening at all.

Ridiculous to compare Sanchez and Ozil tbh. Two totally different players. Sanchez was the better player in that he made bigger impacts in games and could score goals often from nothing but he wasn't as good a technical player as Ozil. Also similar to Ozil we didn't get the best from Sanchez and he had as many bad games as he did good ones. Funny how everyone forgets those games huh?

If you are waiting for a 29 year old creative number 10 to start learning to defend you are wasting your time. He creates chances and assists when he's on form. That what he does. He also doesn't defend he doesn't run around like Robbie Savage he doesn't man mark at corners he doesn't play in nets....

As for the team of the Wenger era I'm not even sure if Sanchez and Ozil would make the bench tbh. We had some great players in that first 10 years.... but that was all luck right.... that was all George Graham right.... or David Dein right.... nothing to do with Wenger right.... agenda right.....

Have to agree with this as much as ozil.can be frustrating on other days he is a majestic football player who's technique is as good as anyone's in the pl.

I do also believe we need better players around him because quite frankly most of them are gash.

I would also add that we have no real pace in the team that all top sides need especially if you are playing a number 10 role, I.e ozil would benefit immensely if we had proper pacey forward

Let’s buy Walcott back then ? He didn’t benefit much from Ozil’s vision ( due to Walcott lack of skill and guile not Ozil’s fault ) pace on its own is not the answer.
I do genuinely wonder if Ozil got upset that Sanchez left, they seemed to have a great understanding of each other, or maybe it was a case that they only passed to each other so disenfranchised were they with the rest of the team.

Aubameyang and Lacazette appear to be best buddies now, with Guendouzi taken under their wing, maybe Ozil is on the perfiery of the social stuff in the squad.
Obviously the new system attempting to be implemented may not be to his liking either, with perhaps his effort being called into question.

We do not have enough grafters in the team, yet, to accommodate passengers in the physical aspect - and we have Ozil, Ramsey, Mikhytarian, Bellerin, Iwobi, Xhaka who don’t really put in a full shift in that department, so still our balance is not correct

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

It doesn't get much more pacy than Aubameyang as far as forwards go. Lacazette ain't no slouch either.

Lacazzette is a snail and auba can obviously run quickly in a straight line at a training session but he doesn't show that on the pitch and his movement and more importantly timing of his runs thus far has been shite.

Just look at that lucas moura tonight against manure, he has PROPER pace as well as balance and toughness yet only what, 5'8"

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I have no urge to abuse the man. He did not award himself the obscene contract. But the emperor is not wearing a suit of the finest linen that only the most discerning among us can see. He is totally naked.

For all that Sanchez was high maintenance, I would have much preferred him to stay than Ozil. He may not have set the world alight at United, but he contributes more, especially when it matters (eg all three assists when they won 3-2 at City in April). He would have made the bench, along with Fabregas, in my "best Arsenal team of the Wenger era". Ozil wouldn't.

I'd agree with this. Ozil just isn't as good as Sanchez was. However, at that time, Sanchez would have had a lot of suitors out there wanting his services while Ozil may have had a couple of Chinese clubs (which is where I think that he will end up).

If he can adapt and add defending into his repertoire, which I have serious doubts about, then he will be worth his salt. Sadly, I just can't see that happening at all.

Ridiculous to compare Sanchez and Ozil tbh. Two totally different players. Sanchez was the better player in that he made bigger impacts in games and could score goals often from nothing but he wasn't as good a technical player as Ozil. Also similar to Ozil we didn't get the best from Sanchez and he had as many bad games as he did good ones. Funny how everyone forgets those games huh?

If you are waiting for a 29 year old creative number 10 to start learning to defend you are wasting your time. He creates chances and assists when he's on form. That what he does. He also doesn't defend he doesn't run around like Robbie Savage he doesn't man mark at corners he doesn't play in nets....

As for the team of the Wenger era I'm not even sure if Sanchez and Ozil would make the bench tbh. We had some great players in that first 10 years.... but that was all luck right.... that was all George Graham right.... or David Dein right.... nothing to do with Wenger right.... agenda right.....

Have to agree with this as much as ozil.can be frustrating on other days he is a majestic football player who's technique is as good as anyone's in the pl.

I do also believe we need better players around him because quite frankly most of them are gash.

I would also add that we have no real pace in the team that all top sides need especially if you are playing a number 10 role, I.e ozil would benefit immensely if we had proper pacey forward

Let’s buy Walcott back then ? He didn’t benefit much from Ozil’s vision ( due to Walcott lack of skill and guile not Ozil’s fault ) pace on its own is not the answer.
I do genuinely wonder if Ozil got upset that Sanchez left, they seemed to have a great understanding of each other, or maybe it was a case that they only passed to each other so disenfranchised were they with the rest of the team.

Aubameyang and Lacazette appear to be best buddies now, with Guendouzi taken under their wing, maybe Ozil is on the perfiery of the social stuff in the squad.
Obviously the new system attempting to be implemented may not be to his liking either, with perhaps his effort being called into question.

We do not have enough grafters in the team, yet, to accommodate passengers in the physical aspect - and we have Ozil, Ramsey, Mikhytarian, Bellerin, Iwobi, Xhaka who don’t really put in a full shift in that department, so still our balance is not correct

Who the fuck mentioned theo , although he scored a cracker other the weekend and is doing ok at everton by all accounts.

[1989]

It doesn't get much more pacy than Aubameyang as far as forwards go. Lacazette ain't no slouch either.

Lacazzette is a snail and auba can obviously run quickly in a straight line at a training session but he doesn't show that on the pitch and his movement and more importantly timing of his runs thus far has been shite.

Just look at that lucas moura tonight against manure, he has PROPER pace as well as balance and toughness yet only what, 5'8"

Aubameyang is way quicker than Lucas Moura. So what if he burned Chris fucking Smalling for pace?

[DB10GOONER]

It doesn't get much more pacy than Aubameyang as far as forwards go. Lacazette ain't no slouch either.

Lacazzette is a snail and auba can obviously run quickly in a straight line at a training session but he doesn't show that on the pitch and his movement and more importantly timing of his runs thus far has been shite.

Just look at that lucas moura tonight against manure, he has PROPER pace as well as balance and toughness yet only what, 5'8"

Agreed on Lacazette and the Boomerang. Lacazette's pace is a bit of a myth in that he needs that 10 to 15 yard warm up to get up to full speed much like Welwide. In the PL you need to hit full speed within 5 yards as that pace is what gets you the initial 5 to 10 yards off your defender. Boomerang is a good striker but I agree with Lefty he does not make the right runs like Wrighty for example used to do so well. He never seems sure of when or where to run.

[Blade]

how many more 'artists' we need to support Picasso?.The team will cost 1b.Why not just abandon him as our No 10?.