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Re: OZIL No shows, Injury, illness ??

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:52 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:33 pm
Wengerballs wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:17 am
Ozils suffering from depression, its obvious.
He fu.cking depresses me.
That 350k a week depresses me.
I'm even more fuc.king depressed now
Good.

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:lol: :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:53 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:52 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:33 pm
Wengerballs wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:17 am
Ozils suffering from depression, its obvious.
He fu.cking depresses me.
That 350k a week depresses me.
I'm even more fuc.king depressed now
Good.
Are you Unai Emery in disguise :box:


:lol:

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:17 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:53 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:52 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
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He fu.cking depresses me.
That 350k a week depresses me.
I'm even more fuc.king depressed now
Good.
Are you Unai Emery in disguise :box:


:lol:
Even Unai Emery is not Unai Emery in disguise. He's Arsene Wenger in disguise....... :lol:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:19 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:17 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:53 pm
Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:52 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm


That 350k a week depresses me.
I'm even more fuc.king depressed now
Good.
Are you Unai Emery in disguise :box:


:lol:
Even Unai Emery is not Unai Emery in disguise. He's Arsene Wenger in disguise....... :lol:
Are you AW in disguise :box:

Not entirely sure which is the bigger insult tbf

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As much as I want Ozil gone I would start him in Europa and Carabao games simply to see if he ups his effort !

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Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:51 pm
As much as I want Ozil gone I would start him in Europa and Carabao games simply to see if he ups his effort !
Forget the "effort" concept Herd. We have players that put in "effort". Thats how we end up with Torriera faffing around as a number 10. And looking hopeless. We need a creator. We need some guile and vision in the middle.

I'd play Ozil and see what he might still have. If he is not creating then hook him. But at the moment we have nothing in midfield.

As much as we desperately need to sort the defence, we need to offload Ozil's 350k a week and replace him with a younger creative player as a priority. You can't win the modern PL without someone creating chances in the middle.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:06 am
Herd wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:51 pm
As much as I want Ozil gone I would start him in Europa and Carabao games simply to see if he ups his effort !
Forget the "effort" concept Herd. We have players that put in "effort". Thats how we end up with Torriera faffing around as a number 10. And looking hopeless. We need a creator. We need some guile and vision in the middle.

I'd play Ozil and see what he might still have. If he is not creating then hook him. But at the moment we have nothing in midfield.

As much as we desperately need to sort the defence, we need to offload Ozil's 350k a week and replace him with a younger creative player as a priority. You can't win the modern PL without someone creating chances in the middle.
Tbh I think physically he should be fine, he's what, 30, Silva is two or three years older and he's still quality and as fit as anyone on the pitch.

I think most of it is down to attitude and the rest down to poor tactics and not getting the best out of him.

Shame cos we don't look like scoring in most games these days, we're all huff and puff.

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
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DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:06 am
Herd wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:51 pm
As much as I want Ozil gone I would start him in Europa and Carabao games simply to see if he ups his effort !
Forget the "effort" concept Herd. We have players that put in "effort". Thats how we end up with Torriera faffing around as a number 10. And looking hopeless. We need a creator. We need some guile and vision in the middle.

I'd play Ozil and see what he might still have. If he is not creating then hook him. But at the moment we have nothing in midfield.

As much as we desperately need to sort the defence, we need to offload Ozil's 350k a week and replace him with a younger creative player as a priority. You can't win the modern PL without someone creating chances in the middle.
Tbh I think physically he should be fine, he's what, 30, Silva is two or three years older and he's still quality and as fit as anyone on the pitch.

I think most of it is down to attitude and the rest down to poor tactics and not getting the best out of him.

Shame cos we don't look like scoring in most games these days, we're all huff and puff.

Emirates Stadium - the home of huff and puff :roll: :lol:

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The only way a manager wins this type of war is if he is popular with the fans and wins things. Neither of those are relevant here, so Emery needs to find a way to manage Ozil properly. I think the fact that the player has reacted so badly to having Emery at the club tells us more about the manager's methods and abilities than Ozil's mentality.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:17 am
The only way a manager wins this type of war is if he is popular with the fans and wins things. Neither of those are relevant here, so Emery needs to find a way to manage Ozil properly. I think the fact that the player has reacted so badly to having Emery at the club tells us more about the manager's methods and abilities than Ozil's mentality.

While we obviously don't know what's going on behind the scenes there doesn't appear to be any sign of attempts by Edu or Sanllehi to try and smooth things over so maybe Dick has got these two in his corner.

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:29 am
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:17 am
The only way a manager wins this type of war is if he is popular with the fans and wins things. Neither of those are relevant here, so Emery needs to find a way to manage Ozil properly. I think the fact that the player has reacted so badly to having Emery at the club tells us more about the manager's methods and abilities than Ozil's mentality.

While we obviously don't know what's going on behind the scenes there doesn't appear to be any sign of attempts by Edu or Sanllehi to try and smooth things over so maybe Dick has got these two in his corner.
I think you're probably right and I can't see any positive end to this battle. Either Ozil will see out the contract, perhaps go out on loan somewhere for a year or Emery will leave the club. Actually, now I think of it, both of those outcomes are fairly positive.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:52 am
Jock Gooner wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:29 am
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:17 am
The only way a manager wins this type of war is if he is popular with the fans and wins things. Neither of those are relevant here, so Emery needs to find a way to manage Ozil properly. I think the fact that the player has reacted so badly to having Emery at the club tells us more about the manager's methods and abilities than Ozil's mentality.

While we obviously don't know what's going on behind the scenes there doesn't appear to be any sign of attempts by Edu or Sanllehi to try and smooth things over so maybe Dick has got these two in his corner.
I think you're probably right and I can't see any positive end to this battle. Either Ozil will see out the contract, perhaps go out on loan somewhere for a year or Emery will leave the club. Actually, now I think of it, both of those outcomes are fairly positive.

You make a valid point :lol:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:06 am
Herd wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:51 pm
As much as I want Ozil gone I would start him in Europa and Carabao games simply to see if he ups his effort !
Forget the "effort" concept Herd. We have players that put in "effort". Thats how we end up with Torriera faffing around as a number 10. And looking hopeless. We need a creator. We need some guile and vision in the middle.

I'd play Ozil and see what he might still have. If he is not creating then hook him. But at the moment we have nothing in midfield.

As much as we desperately need to sort the defence, we need to offload Ozil's 350k a week and replace him with a younger creative player as a priority. You can't win the modern PL without someone creating chances in the middle.
Ok maybe efforts the wrong word ,game perhaps would be a better word but if your Emry and u want him to go freezing him out completely makes more sense .
Raul is in Rauls corner and Edu is in his pocket ,they will do whatever they can to stay in their jobs so if the fans demand a sacrifice they will ultimately throw Emry to the wolves and the recently married Ozil wont give a shit about playing until he goes .
Im now of the opinion that a lot of the players are not behind the manager either and that might cause Josh to don the black cap sooner rather than later !

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:17 am
The only way a manager wins this type of war is if he is popular with the fans and wins things. Neither of those are relevant here, so Emery needs to find a way to manage Ozil properly. I think the fact that the player has reacted so badly to having Emery at the club tells us more about the manager's methods and abilities than Ozil's mentality.



Let's be honest here and acknowledge that the fans were questioning ozil's mentality long before emery arrived, but le French cock allowed it to go on. It is convenient right now for the emery bashers to put this on him and call for ozil's return, but I will stake my bollox that it wouldn't take many games for those very same fans to start pelting down abuse at ozil as he shows the same performances as he has delivered in recent years :roll:

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