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That 1st Man Yoo goal was top drawer, but fuck me they're not half going on about it being the best ever PL goal. :roll:

Best overhead kick I've ever seen has to be Trevor Sinclairs, followed (begrudgingly) by the Ladyboy against Juventus.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:47 am
One or two people on here were upset with me when I questioned Ramsdale early last season, but can anyone who saw the scum/Villa game yesterday, still seriously believe that Arteta didn't make a huge mistake and get rid of our best keeper when he sold Martinez?

He's head and shoulders above Ramsdale, Leno and Raya. Up there with Ederson and Alisson in my opinion. We'll be regretting Lego Head's decision for years to come. :(
It seems Martinez gets better and better with every game he doesn't play for us, yes he's decent but never in the bracket you're putting him in.

Ramsdales as good a shot stopper imo but not the answer, nor is Rays.

Martinez would have leaked a hatful had the spuds not missed so many sitters and it wasn't saves that stopped them, just missing open goals.

He also did his usual of palming a shot that was a comfortable height straight back out to the middle of the six yard box instead of holding onto it or pushing it wide, this was his trademark with us.

He makes plenty of mistakes just like our two, if had had the same pressure put on him that our two are now feeling then he would make a ton more too.

We've conceded the fewest goals in the league so for me it's not the pressing issue, we need to get a Proper forward in and some of our players need to find the form from last season.

All this playing out from the back is what puts keepers under pressure, Allison made some howlers against city and Edison too looks dodgy at times, the best team I've seen play out from the back are Brighton so maybe go for their keeper (I don't know his name lol) and so on and so forth.

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Agree with you, Leftie. Allison made some howlers at the weekend and I wondered at the time whether the media/pundits would make such a song & dance about him as they do for our keepers. Admittedly, our situation is a bit different hence the headlines and judging it gets.

All keepers make mistakes though as they're only human.

If Raya or Ramsdale isn't the answer then could someone please enlighten me as to who might be?

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:47 am
One or two people on here were upset with me when I questioned Ramsdale early last season, but can anyone who saw the scum/Villa game yesterday, still seriously believe that Arteta didn't make a huge mistake and get rid of our best keeper when he sold Martinez?

He's head and shoulders above Ramsdale, Leno and Raya. Up there with Ederson and Alisson in my opinion. We'll be regretting Lego Head's decision for years to come. :(
You clearly didn't see his absolute balls up the other week

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:08 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:47 am
One or two people on here were upset with me when I questioned Ramsdale early last season, but can anyone who saw the scum/Villa game yesterday, still seriously believe that Arteta didn't make a huge mistake and get rid of our best keeper when he sold Martinez?

He's head and shoulders above Ramsdale, Leno and Raya. Up there with Ederson and Alisson in my opinion. We'll be regretting Lego Head's decision for years to come. :(
You clearly didn't see his absolute balls up the other week

Yep, they all make them, even Alisson and Ederson, but he's way in front of our shower.

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:33 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:47 am
One or two people on here were upset with me when I questioned Ramsdale early last season, but can anyone who saw the scum/Villa game yesterday, still seriously believe that Arteta didn't make a huge mistake and get rid of our best keeper when he sold Martinez?

He's head and shoulders above Ramsdale, Leno and Raya. Up there with Ederson and Alisson in my opinion. We'll be regretting Lego Head's decision for years to come. :(
It seems Martinez gets better and better with every game he doesn't play for us, yes he's decent but never in the bracket you're putting him in.

Ramsdales as good a shot stopper imo but not the answer, nor is Rays.

Martinez would have leaked a hatful had the spuds not missed so many sitters and it wasn't saves that stopped them, just missing open goals.

He also did his usual of palming a shot that was a comfortable height straight back out to the middle of the six yard box instead of holding onto it or pushing it wide, this was his trademark with us.

He makes plenty of mistakes just like our two, if had had the same pressure put on him that our two are now feeling then he would make a ton more too.

We've conceded the fewest goals in the league so for me it's not the pressing issue, we need to get a Proper forward in and some of our players need to find the form from last season.

All this playing out from the back is what puts keepers under pressure, Allison made some howlers against city and Edison too looks dodgy at times, the best team I've seen play out from the back are Brighton so maybe go for their keeper (I don't know his name lol) and so on and so forth.

Well Lefty, it's not really a matter of him getting better with each game he doesn't play for us, because he was exceptional when he was in goal for us. yes the scum missed chances, as well as having goals ruled out for close off-sides, but he made some cracking saves, especially the double save in the second half. He's also very good with crosses and his positioning is excellent. H's also better than our pair with the ball at his feet, although I agree with you that this playing out on every occasion is bonkers.

I did notice the shot that he pushed straight back out, but don't recall that as a trademark of his at either ours, or Villa, although it certainly is with Leno and Ramsdale. He might make occasional mistakes (fewer than our jokers), but so do Alisson and Ederson, but like them, he makes saves that I honestly don't think Ramsdale and Leno would make...I'm including Leno, because it was he that Arteta chose over Martinez.

I'm not mentioning Raya much, because I've seen too little of him to properly judge, but from what I have seen, I'm as unimpressed as the rest of us on here.

I think the bottom line is that if Ramsdale, Raya, Leno and Martinez were all available, there'd be a much bigger queue for Emi's signature from the big clubs. Only my opinion of course.

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Just watched the highlights of the Fulham v Wolves game from last night and the 2nd Pen awarded to Fulham is beyond laughable.... In real time you can understand the Ref blowing for a Pen but then VAR checks it and still gives the go ahead unbelievable.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:50 pm
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:33 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:47 am
One or two people on here were upset with me when I questioned Ramsdale early last season, but can anyone who saw the scum/Villa game yesterday, still seriously believe that Arteta didn't make a huge mistake and get rid of our best keeper when he sold Martinez?

He's head and shoulders above Ramsdale, Leno and Raya. Up there with Ederson and Alisson in my opinion. We'll be regretting Lego Head's decision for years to come. :(
It seems Martinez gets better and better with every game he doesn't play for us, yes he's decent but never in the bracket you're putting him in.

Ramsdales as good a shot stopper imo but not the answer, nor is Rays.

Martinez would have leaked a hatful had the spuds not missed so many sitters and it wasn't saves that stopped them, just missing open goals.

He also did his usual of palming a shot that was a comfortable height straight back out to the middle of the six yard box instead of holding onto it or pushing it wide, this was his trademark with us.

He makes plenty of mistakes just like our two, if had had the same pressure put on him that our two are now feeling then he would make a ton more too.

We've conceded the fewest goals in the league so for me it's not the pressing issue, we need to get a Proper forward in and some of our players need to find the form from last season.

All this playing out from the back is what puts keepers under pressure, Allison made some howlers against city and Edison too looks dodgy at times, the best team I've seen play out from the back are Brighton so maybe go for their keeper (I don't know his name lol) and so on and so forth.

Well Lefty, it's not really a matter of him getting better with each game he doesn't play for us, because he was exceptional when he was in goal for us. yes the scum missed chances, as well as having goals ruled out for close off-sides, but he made some cracking saves, especially the double save in the second half. He's also very good with crosses and his positioning is excellent. H's also better than our pair with the ball at his feet, although I agree with you that this playing out on every occasion is bonkers.

I did notice the shot that he pushed straight back out, but don't recall that as a trademark of his at either ours, or Villa, although it certainly is with Leno and Ramsdale. He might make occasional mistakes (fewer than our jokers), but so do Alisson and Ederson, but like them, he makes saves that I honestly don't think Ramsdale and Leno would make...I'm including Leno, because it was he that Arteta chose over Martinez.

I'm not mentioning Raya much, because I've seen too little of him to properly judge, but from what I have seen, I'm as unimpressed as the rest of us on here.

I think the bottom line is that if Ramsdale, Raya, Leno and Martinez were all available, there'd be a much bigger queue for Emi's signature from the big clubs. Only my opinion of course.
You're probably right about emi being at the head of the queue in respect of prospective buyers (He has a world cup to his name gives a big advantage) but I personally never rated him that highly and definitely not Leno.

I did think that as Ramsdale was young He could progress to be a great keeper although now having watched the Ian Wright interview about his lack of concentration (btw that probably cost the club upwards of 20 mil) I think his time at The Arsenal is definitely up.

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Just been watching some of the Lazio v Celtic game and for certain I would take Guendouzi over Havertz in a heartbeat. He has definitely matured (game/Attitude etc), also he gets stuck and plays some excellent passes by reading the game well. But of course Arteta doesn't like "Characters". :roll:

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:34 pm
Just been watching some of the Lazio v Celtic game and for certain I would take Guendouzi over Havertz in a heartbeat. He has definitely matured (game/Attitude etc), also he gets stuck and plays some excellent passes by reading the game well. But of course Arteta doesn't like "Characters". :roll:

Always liked the bloke. I think Augie and I were his two advocates on here and we got some stick for it. I'd have preferred him to Xhaka (obviously), Partey and it's a no brainer regarding Havertz. As you say, Arteta wants yes men.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:46 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:34 pm
Just been watching some of the Lazio v Celtic game and for certain I would take Guendouzi over Havertz in a heartbeat. He has definitely matured (game/Attitude etc), also he gets stuck and plays some excellent passes by reading the game well. But of course Arteta doesn't like "Characters". :roll:

Always liked the bloke. I think Augie and I were his two advocates on here and we got some stick for it. I'd have preferred him to Xhaka (obviously), Partey and it's a no brainer regarding Havertz. As you say, Arteta wants yes men.
I always said we should have kept him.... as you say Arteta wants "yes" men and anyone daring to counter-say him gets the elbow. (Xhaka was a Yes player.... that's how he managed to be so Shit and yet get picked every week...

What still amazes and confounds me is how so many fans ( Not Supporters) actually bought into all the bullshit about him being a re-formed player/ person etc... He was a UselessCunt plain and simple who cost us the title with his antics against the scouseFilth.

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PSG are absolute dog shit,at home to injury ravaged Geordie cu#ts and they're losing 0-1

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Some dodgy decisions going Newcastle’s way here.

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Newcastle absolutely hanging on here. Dross performance. PSG just can’t score any simple chance.

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Last minute dodgy VAR penalty. Ally McCoist “it’s robbery”. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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