Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
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9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
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27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
45
44%
 
Total votes: 102

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:26 am
De Zerbi
Brighton have one of the worst records for goals conceded in the league. They have already conceded 33 this year, on track to concede more than the 53 they conceded last year. I always see teams pass right through Brighton. Could easily see De Zerbi mirroring Potters time at Chelsea. Thinking we are getting a top manager and in the end it goes to shit. We have one of the better defensive records, in fact its the second best in the league. And next year when De Zerbi who cant organize a team off the ball and has up shipping goals and we are down in 6th, then what?

The idea for sacking Arteta its too early for him to compete against veterans like Pep and Klopp. On what basis is De Zerbi the guy to better Klopp or Pep? Even more to the point, we run the risk of sliding down the league if De Zerbi turns into another Potter.

There is little upside to appointing De Zerbi, and plenty of downside. Its madness to suggest sacking Arteta for De Zerbi. De Zerbi is the flavour of the month manager. His Brighton teams sit in the league similar to where Potter had them.

Its best to stick with Arteta. I mean FFS when he first joined we were miles off anything. He got rid of the dwellers and got us into a position where we are talking about the PL or CL. Therefore, if we are going to sack him, his replacement needs to be a proper manager with serious pedigree. If we sacked Arteta and finished next season in 7th place under Roberto De Dopi, dont blame me.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:06 am
OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:26 am
De Zerbi
Brighton have one of the worst records for goals conceded in the league. They have already conceded 33 this year, on track to concede more than the 53 they conceded last year. I always see teams pass right through Brighton. Could easily see De Zerbi mirroring Potters time at Chelsea. Thinking we are getting a top manager and in the end it goes to shit. We have one of the better defensive records, in fact its the second best in the league. And next year when De Zerbi who cant organize a team off the ball and has up shipping goals and we are down in 6th, then what?

The idea for sacking Arteta its too early for him to compete against veterans like Pep and Klopp. On what basis is De Zerbi the guy to better Klopp or Pep? Even more to the point, we run the risk of sliding down the league if De Zerbi turns into another Potter.

There is little upside to appointing De Zerbi, and plenty of downside. Its madness to suggest sacking Arteta for De Zerbi. De Zerbi is the flavour of the month manager. His Brighton teams sit in the league similar to where Potter had them.

Its best to stick with Arteta. I mean FFS when he first joined we were miles off anything. He got rid of the dwellers and got us into a position where we are talking about the PL or CL. Therefore, if we are going to sack him, his replacement needs to be a proper manager with serious pedigree. If we sacked Arteta and finished next season in 7th place under Roberto De Dopi, dont blame me.



I think the correct word is revisionist - someone who examines and tries to change existing beliefs about how events happened or what their importance or meaning is

The season before pep's cone boy took over Arsenal we finished 5th in premier league 1pt off top 4, and were runners up in the europa league - - he did that with a fractured dressing room under the influence of a few bad apples. He wasnt allowed throw out those bad apples and nor was he given a kings ransom to spend. The following season el basque came in and finished 8th in the league and won the covid fa cup, but since he got shot of those dwellers he hasnt come close to winning anything. He has bottled the run in for both of the last two seasons, and our record in the cups since that fa cup win is truly pathetic. Its funny that you slate de zerbi when comparing him to diet pep considering that last season we got 3pts from possible 6 from them so it isnt as if arteta shows him up in head to head - considering that el basque has spent close to 700m you would expect him to steam roller little old brighton if he is that good of a coach :rubchin: You talk about de zebi being unable to organise a team off the ball, but I dont see him playing his left back in midfield and allowing opposition teams run riot down that wing :rubchin: :roll: You call de zerbi flavour of the month and maybe he is (time will tell), but the reality is that for fools like you peps cone boy is flavour of the month living off a cup win three years ago, and if he hadnt won that covid cup the tide would have turned against him by now given how we are regressing and how he has frozen some good players out - I have no doubt that you will catch up in time, but when that time comes I will blame you for supporting a clueless numpty for years after you should have stopped

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I’d take Xabi Alonso right now, before he ends up at the victims

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Kingralph wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:42 pm
I’d take Xabi Alonso right now, before he ends up at the victims
:high5:

Unlike our useless bunch of cunnts you can bet the scouseFilth already have someone line up to take over from stupid teeth.

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Kingralph wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:42 pm
I’d take Xabi Alonso right now, before he ends up at the victims
Leverkusen undefeated and top of the league being expertly marshalled by OG forum favourite Sir Granit :barscarf:
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Careful what we wish for!!

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Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Three more friggin years apparently. :roll: :cry:

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Rewarding failure- apalling

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:31 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Rewarding failure- apalling
It's all part of the Process of the Project Rob.

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:00 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:31 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Rewarding failure- apalling
It's all part of the Process of the Project Rob.
They can fuck right off.
This will be the place for the MOB (Mikel Out Brigade)
It will be like the old days - hatred between fans, shite football, trust the process whilst all the decent players leave. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Nick Nack wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:06 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:00 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:31 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Rewarding failure- apalling
It's all part of the Process of the Project Rob.
They can fuck right off.
This will be the place for the MOB (Mikel Out Brigade)
It will be like the old days - hatred between fans, shite football, trust the process whilst all the decent players leave. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I think you've described that to a Tea mate. :cheers:

Oooops! Wrong Thread :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol: :wink:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:31 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Rewarding failure- apalling


My belief and devotion to all things AFC is no longer what it used to be and it is mainly cos of decisions like this - I watched the club declining at an alarming rate in the latter wenger years and not alone did our owners and board not change anything, but they condoned it with every new contract they gave the senile french cock :roll: When you grow up supporting AFC in what was mainly barren years it kinda dictates how you view things and influences your expectations - I could always accept no winning trophies as long as I felt that the club and players were doing the best they can to make us successful, but I havent felt that way for a long, long time now. Earlier today (before I read news of this extension) I was enjoying taking the piss out of a victims buddy of mine on klopp leaving, and he responded to me that it is 20 years since we won a league and we are not gonna win one anytime soon - my response to him was that not alone would we never win one under diet pep, but that I have zero confidence that the people running the club can identify and appoint the right manager to replace him. We seem to have accepted our place in the pecking order now both in the boardroom and in the stands - we point to city's wealth as a reason why we cant compete, but choose to ignore the fact that teams like the victims and leicester who have spent less than us have managed to do it. It is bizarre that klopp has been in scouseland for almost 9 seasons (more than twice as long as el basque has been our manager), and yet has only spent just over 100m more in 9 seasons than peps cone boy has spent in 4 seasons, and when you factor in the trophies he won with that spend it shines a massive spotlight on how little bang we are getting for our buck with the cone boy

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Nick Nack wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:06 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:00 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:31 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:52 pm
Arteta’s contract extension not far away now ,will be announced anon
Rewarding failure- apalling
It's all part of the Process of the Project Rob.
They can fuck right off.
This will be the place for the MOB (Mikel Out Brigade)
It will be like the old days - hatred between fans, shite football, trust the process whilst all the decent players leave. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Saka, Martinelli, Gabriel, Odegaard, Saliba all signed extensions in the last 12 months. Rice signed for 105m

This is the complete opposite of what you said

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Kingralph wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:42 pm
I’d take Xabi Alonso right now, before he ends up at the victims
I'd be amazed if he doesn't end up there. I'm still hoping against hope they appoint Slippy Me. That's the dream. To see the victim shitbags turn on him would be beautiful. :lol:

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