ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[DB10GOONER]

Yes of course Arteta has no interest in winning, he prefers to have a team of players that he likes and enjoys the company of.

He has no winning mentality, playing for Rangers, PSV, Everton and Arsenal that takes nothing, just going through the motions.

Some talk like it’s so easy, blah blah blah and hey presto.

Hey mate, rather than just digging out other posters with sarcasm, why not offer a counter argument? Are you not concerned that these poor to average quality players are being retained? Especially after a genuine baller like Smith-Rowe has been all but given away? I know I am.

I don’t think ESR fee was far off the mark, he’s only played 25 league games in the last two seasons. There didn’t appear to be many clubs in for him. Would I rather him than Viera, most definitely yes.

Now days PSR can’t be ignored, and that plays a part in decisions being made.

By average players I assume you mean Eddie, Nelson, Viera and Zinchenko and I can’t dispute any of those.

Maybe we are going to see one or two of the younger players getting game time, like Nwaneri.

Buying and selling players can be difficult and paying fringe players £100k per week makes it’s problematic selling.

I can’t understand how the club can pay a player £100k and he hardly kicks a ball.

You are far too sensible EC1 with a well rounded opinion that football doesn’t work like a PlayStation game, please post more often.

Sorry to see you still got your period Stu.

Please post less often.

[OneBardGooner]

Yes of course Arteta has no interest in winning, he prefers to have a team of players that he likes and enjoys the company of.

He has no winning mentality, playing for Rangers, PSV, Everton and Arsenal that takes nothing, just going through the motions.

Some talk like it’s so easy, blah blah blah and hey presto.

Hey mate, rather than just digging out other posters with sarcasm, why not offer a counter argument? Are you not concerned that these poor to average quality players are being retained? Especially after a genuine baller like Smith-Rowe has been all but given away? I know I am.

I don’t think ESR fee was far off the mark, he’s only played 25 league games in the last two seasons. There didn’t appear to be many clubs in for him. Would I rather him than Viera, most definitely yes.

Now days PSR can’t be ignored, and that plays a part in decisions being made.

By average players I assume you mean Eddie, Nelson, Viera and Zinchenko and I can’t dispute any of those.

Maybe we are going to see one or two of the younger players getting game time, like Nwaneri.

Buying and selling players can be difficult and paying fringe players £100k per week makes it’s problematic selling.

I can’t understand how the club can pay a player £100k and he hardly kicks a ball.

You are far too sensible EC1 with a well rounded opinion that football doesn’t work like a PlayStation game, please post more often.

Sorry to see you still got your period Stu.

Please post less often.

[OneBardGooner]

Sign this fucker, he'll sort out the midfield defence position:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Uffdw-opNXQ

[augie]

Daily Mirror reckons we have 3 names on our striker shortlist (doubt if we even have a striker shortlist) - some striker from feyenoord who I never heard of before, the ex coventry striker at sporting, and now evan ferguson from brighton. I like ferguson and would love to have an Irish player playing for AFC again, but (a) I dont think he would suit us and (b) I dont think he will be the prolific striker we need

[OneBardGooner]

Agreed. Ferguson is a decent player, whom I think has very good potential to become a very Good; Strong Physical striker, but he's not quite what we need, at least not yet, unless Arteta can develop and fast track him into the striker we need Now.

[A11M11]

If we continue to play the way that we do then we don't need a striker. If however we are struggling and we decide to change tactics for the last 25 minutes , then we do.
The question is which decent striker will come knowing that they are a last minute throw of the dice . You either get a young player looking for a leg up or an older one looking for a last pay deal.
A change of style where our wide players take on the fullbacks and sling over centres and a Giroud , Bendtner , Radford style is what you want.
Personally I can't see that Arteta sees things that way and if we do buy , it will be for a ball on the ground tricky forward that will produce more of the same but hopefully with a better eye for goal like Watkins but I can't see Emery letting us get that one.

[OneBardGooner]

We should have made a Move for Watkins at the start of the window, so it let's him and his agent know he's very much on our radar; especially as he is a Gooner etc and there is more realistically a chance we will challenge for more than villains, it could well have been a done deal by now.

[Retro Gunner]

If we continue to play the way that we do then we don't need a striker. If however we are struggling and we decide to change tactics for the last 25 minutes , then we do.
The question is which decent striker will come knowing that they are a last minute throw of the dice . You either get a young player looking for a leg up or an older one looking for a last pay deal.
A change of style where our wide players take on the fullbacks and sling over centres and a Giroud , Bendtner , Radford style is what you want.
Personally I can't see that Arteta sees things that way and if we do buy , it will be for a ball on the ground tricky forward that will produce more of the same but hopefully with a better eye for goal like Watkins but I can't see Emery letting us get that one.

I always like your posts A11, but can’t agree with this one. Whether we call them a false number 9, or an advanced number 10, or whatever other contemporary nonsense people trot out, Havertz and Jesus are our front men….our strikers. We certainly have no one else on the pitch that qualifies as a striker, so it is those two.

If we can’t find a front man who can lead the line AND score goals…ideally 20+ league goals per season…more effectively than that pair, then we really are in trouble. Both were jettisoned by clubs that want to compete for the big prizes, so that should tell us all we need to know. Their performances with us have justified their former club’s decisions imo.

As for a top quality striker not suiting Arteta’s style, what does that mean? No one is suggesting we need a 1940s style big lump, who goes through a brick wall to score, has no technical ability and wants the ball constantly slung into the box. The choice isn’t that or a “false 9”. Why not a technically gifted striker who links play and has the gift of where to be and how to finish. Think Haaland at City and Lewandowski when at Bayern. Both centre forwards who lead the line, but technically very good and natural goal scorers.

Before anyone says…but who’s out there and we wouldn’t be able to sign a Haaland or Lewandowski….the point is that there must be strikers who are an improvement on our two duds.

[augie]

Toney would be a big improvement and saka and martinelli would benefit big time if he was our centre forward

[gazzatt2]

Toney would be a big improvement and saka and martinelli would benefit big time if he was our centre forward

I think they are worried about him fitting in with the squad and as he got of his betting addiction
I would have him in the squad at £30 million all day long

[rodders999]

Toney would be a big improvement and saka and martinelli would benefit big time if he was our centre forward

When Toney 365 was on his ban I was a million per cent certain we were signing him. That then swung a complete 180 with me and I thought it wasn’t happening.

I’m now back to thinking it’s nailed on he signs in the last week of the window.

[augie]

Daily Mirror reporting that AFC (and other clubs) have been offered the chance to sign Marco Veratti in a cut price deal by his saudi club - I know that he is 31 years old now but fcuk me he would be a great signing and I would far prefer to be signing him than merino. He is a proven winner with the type of character and strong personality that we lack in the team currently. He is combatative in midfield but with a touch of class to him too - I loved torreira in our midfield and believe he would have been a star for us, but veratti is the same type of player but with a big upgrade on technical ability

All that being said I dont envisage it happening - the basque connection might swing it for the cone boy, but also his preference for players without personality will probably ensure we buy the guy that flopped at geordies and at dortmund

[DB10GOONER]

Daily Mirror reporting that AFC (and other clubs) have been offered the chance to sign Marco Veratti in a cut price deal by his saudi club - I know that he is 31 years old now but fcuk me he would be a great signing and I would far prefer to be signing him than merino. He is a proven winner with the type of character and strong personality that we lack in the team currently. He is combatative in midfield but with a touch of class to him too - I loved torreira in our midfield and believe he would have been a star for us, but veratti is the same type of player but with a big upgrade on technical ability

All that being said I dont envisage it happening - the basque connection might swing it for the cone boy, but also his preference for players without personality will probably ensure we buy the guy that flopped at geordies and at dortmund

Yeah, I can't see it happening either. A shame because I too think Veratti would be a good signing even at his age. But I also think Arteta has good points and bad points and one of his biggest bad points is he very obviously does not like players with strong personalities.

[OneBardGooner]

Veratti would be a very shrewd and positive signing, as has already been said yes he is in the twilight of his career at 31yrs of age, but the Experience he would bring to the squad would not only help the younger players, his presence and his ability to read the game in midfield would be a treasure trove. When he holds the midfield it stays 'Held' if you see what I mean. Also he wouldn't have to play every game so hopefully would / could stay fit for when needed. I say get shot of Partey and use those wages of £160k a week for Veratti, even offer him a signing on fee as well.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

Brentford manager Thomas Frank: “Things are happening for Ivan Toney so we decided not to involve him in the squad”.

“There’s interest, nothing closed yet but things are happening”, told Sky. - @FabrizioRomano