Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
9
9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
28
27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
45
44%
 
Total votes: 102

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General wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:20 pm
Arteta still has a lot to prove but I’m not sure how he can be blamed for not signing a striker. So he is deliberately sabotaging his own team by declining to sign players we need? Sometimes I read certain posts and log off in disgust. It’s PTSD from the Wenger era and some still haven’t moved on. It’s the same people who convinced themselves the French waffler would never be sacked by Kroenke so didn’t support the protests in 2017.

We scored 91goals last season which was more than the Liverpool team that won the title in 2020. Judging by credible reports, it’s quite clear efforts were made to bring in a striker (Sesko, Gyokeres) or an attacking winger with potential (Nico Wiliams). None of these targets materialised for various reasons and this team is now at a stage where we have to target truly elite talent and not just buy for the sake of buying.
That bit in red is nonsense. The protests were heavily supported on here even to the extent that we set up a secret sub-forum for the protest planners to use.

But also, as devoted, as hard working, and as genuine as the protesters and the protest organisers were, it was not the protests that forced Kroenke to finally get shot of Wenger, it was the average punters not turning up to games, it was the empty seats. And the vast majority of those no shows were not protesting. Ultimately it was apathy that ended Wenger's reign.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:29 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:06 pm
So hypothetically we dont win a trophy WE MUST nosebleed a Conte or Tuchel appointment............................why????????????????????????????????????

We have got into this position precisely because we dont make knee jerk reactions.

If we did bin Arteta, rival fans would celebrate

How long would you be prepared to go on without a trophy? The manager has been given time and lots of money to follow the "process" and build his own team. What you're looking at every week is exactly as he wants it...this team and the set up is entirely his, so there can be no excuses.

Is there a point at which you'd be prepared to say "No more, you've won nothing since 2020, so time for a change."? If so, when will that be? Bear in mind that the big clubs don't just sit and wait indefinitely.

Can you give a straight answer please and there really is no need to mention Conte, De Zerbi, Tuchel et etc.
I want to win the PL and CL. Thats why im Arteta in. That simple

Its up to the Arteta naysayers to come up with suitable replacements.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:00 am
Retro Gunner wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:29 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:06 pm
So hypothetically we dont win a trophy WE MUST nosebleed a Conte or Tuchel appointment............................why????????????????????????????????????

We have got into this position precisely because we dont make knee jerk reactions.

If we did bin Arteta, rival fans would celebrate

How long would you be prepared to go on without a trophy? The manager has been given time and lots of money to follow the "process" and build his own team. What you're looking at every week is exactly as he wants it...this team and the set up is entirely his, so there can be no excuses.

Is there a point at which you'd be prepared to say "No more, you've won nothing since 2020, so time for a change."? If so, when will that be? Bear in mind that the big clubs don't just sit and wait indefinitely.

Can you give a straight answer please and there really is no need to mention Conte, De Zerbi, Tuchel et etc.
I want to win the PL and CL. Thats why im Arteta in. That simple

Its up to the Arteta naysayers to come up with suitable replacements.

You weaken your argument by always avoiding the question. We all want to win the PL and CL, but my question was how long will you wait for Arteta to achieve those goals?

Given all the support he’s had from the owners and that the “process” and this team are entirely his, when will you say “enough, it’s time to go”? The end of this season? Another 2 seasons? 5 more? Never?

At Liverpool and Utd he’d be clinging on by his fingernails. At City and Chelsea he’d have been gone two years ago, at Real Madrid, Barca, Juve, Bayern, AC and Inter, he’d be ancient history. Big clubs set the bar very high….win or go. Most of us on here are prepared to give a manager time, especially after the Wenger years, but he’s had plenty of time and money and now has to deliver.

When will be time up in your opinion?

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:00 am
Retro Gunner wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:29 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:06 pm
So hypothetically we dont win a trophy WE MUST nosebleed a Conte or Tuchel appointment............................why????????????????????????????????????

We have got into this position precisely because we dont make knee jerk reactions.

If we did bin Arteta, rival fans would celebrate

How long would you be prepared to go on without a trophy? The manager has been given time and lots of money to follow the "process" and build his own team. What you're looking at every week is exactly as he wants it...this team and the set up is entirely his, so there can be no excuses.

Is there a point at which you'd be prepared to say "No more, you've won nothing since 2020, so time for a change."? If so, when will that be? Bear in mind that the big clubs don't just sit and wait indefinitely.

Can you give a straight answer please and there really is no need to mention Conte, De Zerbi, Tuchel et etc.
I want to win the PL and CL. Thats why im Arteta in. That simple

Its up to the Arteta naysayers to come up with suitable replacements.



And I want to spend one full weekend having non step sex with Mila Kunis to the point that one of us dies through complete exhaustion or dehydration, but that is as irrelevant to the question as your answer is (and is probably as likely to happen too :wink: ) :roll:

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Just in case Wilson doesn't know who Mila Kunis is....


Image



:wink:

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Now post one without make up.
Cos that's the one you wake up with.

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A11M11 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:12 am
Now post one without make up.
Cos that's the one you wake up with.



I wouldnt care at that stage anyway - I only want one weekend ffs :lol: :lol:

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augie wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:07 pm
A11M11 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:12 am
Now post one without make up.
Cos that's the one you wake up with.



I wouldnt care at that stage anyway - I only want one weekend ffs :lol: :lol:
One Weekend!!!???? :shock:


Fuck that 3 minutes will do! :-P

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A11M11 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:12 am
Now post one without make up.
Cos that's the one you wake up with.
Get her on top mostly, don't let her bury her face in the pillow during doggy, and you should be OK make-up wise the next morning. But tbh, like the augster, my ambition there would be to fuck her until I dropped dead and thusly your concerns would be rendered moot anyway. :D :wink:

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I heard she goes like a Train! :D

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heard she goes like a Train! :D

What always comes late , if she turns up at all.

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:49 am
I heard she goes like a Train! :D
Read that wrong and thought you said she goes like a tranny :shock: :oops: :shock:

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I feel a quadruple coming on

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Nick Nack wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:25 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:49 am
I heard she goes like a Train! :D
Read that wrong and thought you said she goes like a tranny :shock: :oops: :shock:
Maybe I should have used the term "Choo Choo" instead.

:D :wink:

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:06 pm
I feel a quadruple coming on
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Fuck McD ... What! A Quadruple Heart By-Pass???


Sorry to hear that. :cry:

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