Everton H Sat Dec 14th KO 3pm

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Re: Everton H Sat Dec 14th KO 3pm

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:29 pm
xgtdec wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:22 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:17 pm
Desperate stuff.

Still a long long way to go. We will strengthen in January.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I’d love to believe it, but history ain’t on our side of Arsenal as a club doing what needs to be done
I think we will.

Trouble is, just spending money isn’t necessarily strengthening. £800 million spent proves that. He’s bought too many average to poor players and has compounded that by failing to strengthen in the areas where we desperately need it.

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augie wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:50 pm
xgtdec wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:27 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:01 pm
Just 10 touches of the ball for Nwaneri in the 30 minutes he was out there. Christ.

Odegaard was poor today but for every 3 shit passes he did the 4th was a dangerous one that got us in behind which although a shit ratio still made him one of our better players. It was a mistake to take him off.
I figure odegaard is quick to pick and make a pass, but if the passage of play before it gets to him is dog slow, then he’s marked up and out of the game before he’s a chance to make an impact. If Legohead wants to make the most of him the rest of the teams passing needs to be as quick as his is. The pedestrian old lady passing speed is one of our greatest weaknesses!!



Odeargod is the very definition of pedestrian old lady passing and I have been saying that for ages now - even my eldest son who is a huge odeargod fan was going mental at how many touches he was taking before releasing the ball forward. I'm not sure if it is from a stats based obsession or maybe the brain is slow to read the game, but he will tap the ball 4 or 5 times in front of him before he will release it even for a 5 yard pass - I dont deny that part of his problem is that sometimes he tries too hard to make every ball a killer ball, but I compare it to smith-rowe who gets the ball on the half turn and feeds it to the wingers straight away, thus increasing the chances of our wingers having a 1 v 1

Talking of wingers, is it too old school to maybe try swapping saka and martinelli/trossard for 20 mins mid game to actually having a left winger on the left wing and a right footed winger on the right wing ?? Our game plan is so fcuking narrow and even stevie wonder can see that saka has to cut back inside almost every time, so they basically double him up there and force him wide - I could game plan against our wingers without having put on cones for pep for two seasons ffs :roll: :roll:
I think part of it is him looking and waiting for a runner into the box. We never have one so he just has to keep moving it until an option appears. Almost always, it's Saka. If we had a proper goalscorer, he'd play him in every time with perfectly weighted passes which kill the defenders immediately. It's so fucking stupid that we have the players to provide the delivery in Saka and Odergaard and frequently, Rice but not the one to actually do anything with them. It's like buying a Ferrari and then deciding that you don't need to put petrol in it.

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Disgusted with that shite today :( As so often happens after a Euro game midweek we were flat as fuck :cry: Beegee hairs a fuckin arsehole he really is...Hes went in way too strong in Europe plus his in game management is atrocious :oops: 800 fucking million notes he's splaffed up the wall the fucking cock that he is :oops: I've never been Arteta in..he was a fucking beige player and he's a caramac(I fucking loved those) coloured manager.This is his squad and all of the holes in it are down to his incompetence.A manager with zero previous experience shouldn't be managing one of the worlds biggest clubs.

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Today's game got me thinking of prime Alexis Sanchez.
He was fantastic on the left for us.
But then he went to United and was shit.

We desperately need to upgrade the left wing and up front.
Quality improvements there and we're champions.

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In our last two league games we’ve totally dominated the ball. In fact you could probably count on one hand how many times both Fulham and Everton crossed the halfway line in the 90 minutes.

And yet what have we got to show for it? 2 points from 6 and 1 meagre goal stabbed in by a centre back. That’s absolutely fucking criminal.

If you’re regularly dropping points with 80% possession you’ve a serious problem.

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In many ways we are a horrendously run club. We let Emery go in 2019 and on top of giving a novice the job, we have given him a huge amount of money to waste. The idea of Arteta being allowed to take on the Havertz pet project and no one at the club reeling him in and saying "a striker is the main priority" is just pure and utter negligence. Arteta has one FA Cup to show for five years work(same as Eric Ten Haag at United :roll: ) and we are letting him run the club with zero checks and balances. Today was death by a thousand cuts watching us go back to Wenger days of sideways and backwards passing. I would have some sympathy for Arteta but his pure arrogance undoes any of that so really hope he fucks off

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BFG4 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:16 pm
In many ways we are a horrendously run club. We let Emery go in 2019 and on top of giving a novice the job, we have given him a huge amount of money to waste. The idea of Arteta being allowed to take on the Havertz pet project and no one at the club reeling him in and saying "a striker is the main priority" is just pure and utter negligence. Arteta has one FA Cup to show for five years work(same as Eric Ten Haag at United :roll: ) and we are letting him run the club with zero checks and balances. Today was death by a thousand cuts watching us go back to Wenger days of sideways and backwards passing. I would have some sympathy for Arteta but his pure arrogance undoes any of that so really hope he fucks off


Bad news buddy - ten haag won an fa cup AND a league cup - it was highlighted on here at the time the difference in attitudes and what is acceptable to both clubs and their fans cos ten haag had won 2 trophies and was declared a massive failure, and el basque had won 1 and was declared a great success :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I think the reality of the situation is that a good number of players have dropped off seriously form wise. Arteta is the man at the helm but can he seriously be blamed for Jesus and Martinelli tailing off so dramatically. Can he blamed for our injury issues at full back? What he can be blamed for is not signing a proper striker and for signing Merino instead of an option on the wings. It’s a seriously unbalanced squad but I don’t think that is all his fault. We clearly were in the market for a striker all summer (Sesko) and for a winger. We’ve also tried to sign Zubimendi.

I think as a squad we have burnt out trying to match City. And when City have fallen off a cliff Chelsea or Liverpool are going to come up on the rails.

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rodders999 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:13 pm
In our last two league games we’ve totally dominated the ball. In fact you could probably count on one hand how many times both Fulham and Everton crossed the halfway line in the 90 minutes.

And yet what have we got to show for it? 2 points from 6 and 1 meagre goal stabbed in by a centre back. That’s absolutely fucking criminal.

If you’re regularly dropping points with 80% possession you’ve a serious problem.



A buddy of mine supports the geordies and messaged me mid-way through the second half saying that he heard pickford was keeping them in it - I messaged him back saying 30 stone neville southall could have been in their goals today and kept a clean sheet cos we basically threatened them once during the whole fcuking game :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:40 pm
I think the reality of the situation is that a good number of players have dropped off seriously form wise. Arteta is the man at the helm but can he seriously be blamed for Jesus and Martinelli tailing off so dramatically. Can he blamed for our injury issues at full back? What he can be blamed for is not signing a proper striker and for signing Merino instead of an option on the wings. It’s a seriously unbalanced squad but I don’t think that is all his fault. We clearly were in the market for a striker all summer (Sesko) and for a winger. We’ve also tried to sign Zubimendi.

I think as a squad we have burnt out trying to match City. And when City have fallen off a cliff Chelsea or Liverpool are going to come up on the rails.
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Your posting style reminds me of someone that used to post on here.

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:40 pm
I think the reality of the situation is that a good number of players have dropped off seriously form wise. Arteta is the man at the helm but can he seriously be blamed for Jesus and Martinelli tailing off so dramatically. Can he blamed for our injury issues at full back? What he can be blamed for is not signing a proper striker and for signing Merino instead of an option on the wings. It’s a seriously unbalanced squad but I don’t think that is all his fault. We clearly were in the market for a striker all summer (Sesko) and for a winger. We’ve also tried to sign Zubimendi.

I think as a squad we have burnt out trying to match City. And when City have fallen off a cliff Chelsea or Liverpool are going to come up on the rails.

Merino was signed to even the numbers after Elneny’s departure. He’s nothing more than a squad player, and it’s not aimed at you, but some fans need to manage their expectations. We obviously lack killer instinct and part of the problem is the lack of elite attackers. Tactics and rotation can only take you so far.
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We need to fly out of the blocks a lot more against these times.

With Henry, Pires and Bergkamp we were often 2 or 3 up after 20-30 minutes. The first goal means someone like Everton today needs to come out to play more and then they get battered.
United beat them 4-0 recently.

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General wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:59 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:40 pm
I think the reality of the situation is that a good number of players have dropped off seriously form wise. Arteta is the man at the helm but can he seriously be blamed for Jesus and Martinelli tailing off so dramatically. Can he blamed for our injury issues at full back? What he can be blamed for is not signing a proper striker and for signing Merino instead of an option on the wings. It’s a seriously unbalanced squad but I don’t think that is all his fault. We clearly were in the market for a striker all summer (Sesko) and for a winger. We’ve also tried to sign Zubimendi.

I think as a squad we have burnt out trying to match City. And when City have fallen off a cliff Chelsea or Liverpool are going to come up on the rails.

Merino was signed to even the numbers after Elneny’s departure. He’s nothing more than a squad player so some fans need to manage their expectations. We obviously lack killer instinct and part of the problem is the lack of elite attackers. Tactics and rotation can only take you so far.


Just ONE Woulod do the job... Someone who has the natural born skills and The Desire to be selfish and score 25 - 35 goals every season....NO TEAM in the prem can survive in the top 4 without one....


Haaland/ Salah :blah: :blah: :blah: BUt Arteta hasn't and seems intent on Not buying the final piece in the puzzle of possible success. :banghead: :cussing:

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Same at Fulham Augie. 70% possession there and barely troubled Leno. 80% today and dinosaur arms had fuck all to do.

The slow horseshoe passing spiral of doom is in full flow now.

I’m not as on board with Osimhen as most on here seem to be. 25 years old and he wants out of Napoli. Fair enough - where does he want to go? Barca, Real, Bayern, Juve or a premier league club? Nope he wants to fuck off to Saudi. That’s a guy who’s motivated by nothing but money.

I loved Auba and when things were good they were great but he soon became more concerned about getting his lambo platinum wrapped than he did playing ball for us.

The concern would be that Osimhen is already at that point. He didn’t get his move to Saudi so now he’s fucking about on loan in the Mickey Mouse Turkish league. That’s not a serious footballer in my book.

We went for Sesko early last summer so the need for a striker was obviously seen as a priority but when we didn’t get him there was no backup? Nobody to pivot to? What the fuck was that about?

That’s not good enough, piss poor management and it’s a decision that’s proving to be fatal this season.

We’re miserly in what we limit the opposition to in games (yet still manage to concede stupid fucking goals from their limited chances :banghead: ) but if we had a lethal striker, a Wright, Anelka, Henry, JVP, Alexis or Auba we’d be off into the sunset.

So fucking frustrating :banghead:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:53 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:40 pm
I think the reality of the situation is that a good number of players have dropped off seriously form wise. Arteta is the man at the helm but can he seriously be blamed for Jesus and Martinelli tailing off so dramatically. Can he blamed for our injury issues at full back? What he can be blamed for is not signing a proper striker and for signing Merino instead of an option on the wings. It’s a seriously unbalanced squad but I don’t think that is all his fault. We clearly were in the market for a striker all summer (Sesko) and for a winger. We’ve also tried to sign Zubimendi.

I think as a squad we have burnt out trying to match City. And when City have fallen off a cliff Chelsea or Liverpool are going to come up on the rails.
:rubchin:

Your posting style reminds me of someone that used to post on here.
Who used to post on here?

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