ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[Perryashburtongroves]

Antony…..

And Cleopatra?

[Retro Gunner]

All those years complaining about tight fisted Kroenke.....can't really complain now.

In fact it's the opposite.....if the man knew anything about "soccer", he wouldn't give Arteta another penny.

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Leagues are won on grass not on balance sheets I still dont understand how people can laud his transfer policy and claim that his signings have increased in value, when for a lot of them he doesnt trust them enough to play them

I’ve not even bothered to look at valuations, but as we well know, stats can be used to distort truth.

I suspect the squad valuation is inflated by Saka who cost nothing, Martinelli who cost little, probably Odegaard (can’t recall what he cost but we’d probably get more now) and Saliba and Gabriel who cost little. Only Gabriel and Odegaard have anything to do with Arteta’s purchases.

If you then look at the rest of Arteta’s purchases, you’ve got bundles spent on Rice, Partey, Jorginho, Merino, Havertz and Jesus ( ), Vieira, Zinchenko and Trossard, amongst others. No way on earth are we getting our money back on that lot. We might get it back on Timber, Raya and Cala but that’s about all. So, if I’m the owner, they’re the lot that I’m assessing Arteta’s judgement on and it ain’t showing a good result.

Before some smart Alec mentions it, I don’t expect my money back on all transfers…for arguments sake, if we spent 70 or 80 million on a player that performed really well for 5 yrs and we only got 25 million when we sold him at age 32, then his value has been in his service to us. None of those listed fall in that fucking category.

Anyway, bottom line is that we or our accountants can value a player however we like, but he’s only worth what someone else will pay for him.

You’re right augie, the owner has no reason to trust Arteta with a penny more.

[General]

All those years complaining about tight fisted Kroenke.....can't really complain now.

In fact it's the opposite.....if the man knew anything about "soccer", he wouldn't give Arteta another penny.

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Leagues are won on grass not on balance sheets I still dont understand how people can laud his transfer policy and claim that his signings have increased in value, when for a lot of them he doesnt trust them enough to play them

A businessman is concerned about balance sheets, fans are concerned about trophies, ergo, a never ending philosophical clash that shows no sign on abating. Yes we need to win something major but the owners have no reason to pull the plug on Arteta when their fundamental business objectives are being met.

[the playing mantis]

https://x.com/madebygoogle/status/1879079758752804928

Mildly amusing

That’s very good and well performed by Sol.

I know some don't and yes he's a fruit loop but love sol! What a player and what he did to those cnuts! Remember it like yesterday a level results day or UCAS something like that I'm sure or last day of school. One of them!

[Reno Gooner]

All those years complaining about tight fisted Kroenke.....can't really complain now.

In fact it's the opposite.....if the man knew anything about "soccer", he wouldn't give Arteta another penny.

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Valued by who......not the fans, that's for sure. Investing money in any business does not automatically make you more valuable, especially if the investments are bad. And Arteta has made plenty of those.

[General]

All those years complaining about tight fisted Kroenke.....can't really complain now.

In fact it's the opposite.....if the man knew anything about "soccer", he wouldn't give Arteta another penny.

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Valued by who......not the fans, that's for sure. Investing money in any business does not automatically make you more valuable, especially if the investments are bad. And Arteta has made plenty of those.

You ask a question and then launch into speculation that doesn’t make any sense. A simple Google would reveal that we have the second most valuable squad in the league after City, and the market value significantly outstrips the initial investment. The days of the club losing money on players and messing up contract renewals are long gone.

[Nick Nack]

All those years complaining about tight fisted Kroenke.....can't really complain now.

In fact it's the opposite.....if the man knew anything about "soccer", he wouldn't give Arteta another penny.

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Valued by who......not the fans, that's for sure. Investing money in any business does not automatically make you more valuable, especially if the investments are bad. And Arteta has made plenty of those.

You ask a question and then launch into speculation that doesn’t make any sense. A simple Google would reveal that we have the second most valuable squad in the league after City, and the market value significantly outstrips the initial investment. The days of the club losing money on players and messing up contract renewals are long gone.

In any business an asset is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Anyone can value a player at say £50million, but if someone is only willing to pay a packet of Hubba Bubba and a couple of Opal Fruits, then that is all a player is worth.

In business it's the basis of false accounting - over valuing assets to make the books look more attractive, especially if you're looking to sell or attract investment

[goonertux]

Rumours of Zubimendi being close to completion. Should definitely mean Partey out the door. Next step, a striker?

[General]

All those years complaining about tight fisted Kroenke.....can't really complain now.

In fact it's the opposite.....if the man knew anything about "soccer", he wouldn't give Arteta another penny.

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Valued by who......not the fans, that's for sure. Investing money in any business does not automatically make you more valuable, especially if the investments are bad. And Arteta has made plenty of those.

You ask a question and then launch into speculation that doesn’t make any sense. A simple Google would reveal that we have the second most valuable squad in the league after City, and the market value significantly outstrips the initial investment. The days of the club losing money on players and messing up contract renewals are long gone.

In any business an asset is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Anyone can value a player at say £50million, but if someone is only willing to pay a packet of Hubba Bubba and a couple of Opal Fruits, then that is all a player is worth.

In business it's the basis of false accounting - over valuing assets to make the books look more attractive, especially if you're looking to sell or attract investment

The squad valuation is validated by every single football business report. Assets are valued based on depreciation and net present value. These are simple accounting rules. Transfer fees are not plucked from thin air. They are calculated based on well established parameters and then inflated if buyer is desperate. Again our squad is one of the most valuable and sustainable in world football. You can look it up.

[General]

|| Arsenal have entered the race for Juventus prime Striker target, Randal Kolo Muani [Via - @SkySport].

He’s going to Juventus. That only means one thing- We are getting Vlahovich.

[General]

EXCLUSIVE: Arsenal to land Real Sociedad midfielder Martin Zubimendi at the end of the season.

Daily Mail

Good player BUT Just as it was with Wenker it's always Tomorrow or the next window or whatever!... I'm waiting for Arteta to come out with that eternal phrase... We Tried to Sign ... or We Nearly signed such and such...


What a load of Bollocks.

Hang on, we never completed transfers this early under Wonga and rumour has it that we tried to get Zubimendi now but Sociedad wouldn’t release him until the summer.

[sk-gtfo]

So we desperately need a winger and striker, the club says don't worry we're signing a midfielder... in the summer...

Comedy gold.

[TeeCee]

Yeah but we're getting rid of two turds in that position in the summer so we DO need a replacement or we'll be short and the doom mongers will be back on here again as always asking why we're in this position!!

[falkirk goon]

Zubimendi if we get him will be a good addition and hopefully it will see the end of the 2 tollies.

[augie]

The squad is valued more than what Arteta has spent so at the very least from a business perspective it is viable for the Kroenkes to continue funding transfers

Valued by who......not the fans, that's for sure. Investing money in any business does not automatically make you more valuable, especially if the investments are bad. And Arteta has made plenty of those.

You ask a question and then launch into speculation that doesn’t make any sense. A simple Google would reveal that we have the second most valuable squad in the league after City, and the market value significantly outstrips the initial investment. The days of the club losing money on players and messing up contract renewals are long gone.

In any business an asset is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Anyone can value a player at say £50million, but if someone is only willing to pay a packet of Hubba Bubba and a couple of Opal Fruits, then that is all a player is worth.

In business it's the basis of false accounting - over valuing assets to make the books look more attractive, especially if you're looking to sell or attract investment

The squad valuation is validated by every single football business report. Assets are valued based on depreciation and net present value. These are simple accounting rules. Transfer fees are not plucked from thin air. They are calculated based on well established parameters and then inflated if buyer is desperate. Again our squad is one of the most valuable and sustainable in world football. You can look it up.

Come back to me IF we ever get the valuations listed on a player we sell - I'd bet my nuts that we wont get near whatever zinchenko is valued at if we sell him to dortmund. Tbh those valuation reports are for the most part bu!!shit anyway - lets be honest here and say that a players valuation shoots up as soon as an english club tries to buy him cos it is accepted worldwide that the premier league is the richest league in the world, but then if a club from a less affluent league tries to sign the same player their valuation will be lower. Whose scale are we operating on when these valuations are banded around ?