POLL For 2024 - 25. AKA UTTER BOLLOCKS

[Limerick Gooner]

I reckon we will go out all of the cups, come 9th in the Champions League group stage and draw Real Madrid and go out of that. We will then go all out for the League and come 5th. Being pipped by Newcastle on the last days of the season. Arteta will then mould Zinchenko into our new left wing back up and we will re sign Nketiah as our no 1 striker.

[the playing mantis]

Wumming is your straw man bollocks.

You: He's had a kid so it's affected his form.

Me: No, I don't buy that...how would you possibly know that for starters and it isn't acceptable even if true.

You: So you think he's been playing on top form then?

That's a classic straw man argument right there. Perfectly fair to call it wumming. You misrepresent what people say the whole time with bad faith arguments. Five to Limerick indeed.

What are you talking about? What’s Five to Limerick? You sound pretty angry about something. Also sense you think a lot of yourself.

No, not angry at all mate, just no fan of bad faith arguments and wumming.

As for thinking a lot of myself, I think that's what they call projection.

You're pretty new here and as entitled to your opinion as anyone, but you've clashed with one or two already and the deliberate misrepresentation of people's opinions won't go down well.

interestingly, as free as you are with your opinions, you body swerved the question about how long you'd be prepared to give Arteta if we continue trophyless. Just to reiterate, not whether he'll be safe as long as he makes top 4, but how long YOU think he should continue with no trophy success?

Not sure I am misrepresenting anyone deliberately. Genuinely not.

My view on Arteta is this. I reckon the first couple of years was the rebuild. 2022/23 was beyond expectation and then we bottled it due to a combination of injury to Saliba and then key imbeciles costing us. Partey and Xhaka two prime culprits. Last season we improved again and I don’t lay any blame at his door for a title run in where we won 14, lost one and drew one from the turn of the year. The Scousers bottled it. We didn’t. The title was lost at Christmas when we lost to Fulham and West Ham. I don’t really see a late 80s points total as a failing by Arteta. City were a machine again.

Moving to this season I feel we have gone in to the season completely ill equipped in the front line. He flogs the same first 11 to pieces and they then get injured. We shipped out some crap pre season but didn’t use the funds to upgrade. We are short in the wings, striker and playmaker. However I would say this is the first season he has really failed. If he does the same next season then he is out. I do think this season we are not out of it and I think we have been robbed by referees at least twice. Both matches against Brighton ironically. 4 extra points and we would be right in it and there would be nowhere near the angst you get on here.

Ok brother

Oh that explains it

[OneBardGooner]

We are NOT Winning the Title... Plain to see as can be.


Seeing as No Striker or Cover/s for our Flank players are coming in.... The First Thing the Club Needs to Ensure tis that he following players are shown the door ASAP:


Zinchenko - the worst defensive player since Santos
Partey - where do I start
Jesus - made of soft plastic and was never good enough
Havertz - to think we could have paid the same kind of money for Gyokeres or Isak is the stuff of Nightmares and is ALL on Arten Wenker
Merino - Just a Big NO...
Calafiori (Good player but a Perma-crock)
Tomiyasu (good full back but again Balsa knees)
Tierney - Genuinely decent player, nice lad and always gives everything,hard working etc - but like Wilshere blighted by constant injury.
Jorginho - once a decent player... "Once" not anymore
and of course then we have sterling what for me is a CRIME that we even gave him a glance never mind signing him.... an all time low in the history of Arsenal signings..along with Sanogo, Santos, the guy with the crocked back etc. etc etc

That's NINE bought Players and ONE Absolute Disaster brought in who have FAILED MASSIVELY... And of course there are those players (still) on loan...


#arsen teta OUT

[Limerick Gooner]

Champions.

[Retro Gunner]

Champions.

You seriously think so, or is that short term emotional euphoria, or just tongue in cheek?

Arteta blew the chance of a title win when he refused to buy a CF and was happy to go with his vanity project of Havertz and Jesus as our strikers.

If Liverpool beat Everton this weekend then we’re not making up a 9 point gap.

[shu]

Champions.

You seriously think so, or is that short term emotional euphoria, or just tongue in cheek?

Arteta blew the chance of a title win when he refused to buy a CF and was happy to go with his vanity project of Havertz and Jesus as our strikers.

If Liverpool beat Everton this weekend then we’re not making up a 9 point gap.

And that signing should have been in the summer. I still believe Arteta really thought Sesko was coming and ha no plan B at all. How the fuck we ended up with Harvetz and Jesus after selling the feather to Palace. So we were turned down by Sesko and the fat lad from Juventus last season maybe he needs to lower his expectations.

[the playing mantis]

Just to point out the feather would have made absolutely 0 difference. He is worse than havertz. An inanimate carbon rod would be more effective than the feather.

It's not negligence to sell the feather without a replacement. He was a dead weight

The negligence was not signing a striker (well 2) full stop.

[Red Army 2]

Just to point out the feather would have made absolutely 0 difference. He is worse than havertz. An inanimate carbon rod would be more effective than the feather.

It's not negligence to sell the feather without a replacement. He was a dead weight

The negligence was not signing a striker (well 2) full stop.

The world and his wife knows it...but will he change it?

will he fuck......

[Red Army 2]

Champions.

You seriously think so, or is that short term emotional euphoria, or just tongue in cheek?

Arteta blew the chance of a title win when he refused to buy a CF and was happy to go with his vanity project of Havertz and Jesus as our strikers.

If Liverpool beat Everton this weekend then we’re not making up a 9 point gap.

At least we can stop dreaming we could have won the title...never has a title been won so easily, under hardly any pressure

yes mate of course you are right No CF was an incredibly bad decision

[OneBardGooner]

I am more than just a little confused and rather more than just a tad bewildered.


When it was first mooted that he was in the frame to take over from Unai I was dead against it! However I also thought well if he has been Pepe's Apprentice for 4 - 5 years, maybe... just maybe he has learnt a lot and can do the 'Job'.

And then when I saw how he had (genuinely and in very little time) Re-united the Fan Base, I thought Okay, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Then we won the FA Cup (admittedly under the strangest of circumstances - COVID - But none-the-less we actually had a Trophy! Whoooppeee!

And then The PEA situation where he showed or rather appeared to show no favouritism and showed him the door; setting an example to all the players that He Was In Charge And in doing that he stamped his mark as The Arsenal Manager.

Since then...

We have all seen & heard Arteta in his interviews/ pressers etc and although he has begun to talk in that strange language that TOF adopted, ie: utter-bollox and non-sensical gibberishy washy what not... When he first took over as Coach ... Manager he sounded like he knew what he was on about, indeed he made sense and talked like he knew where we needed to go, what was needed to be done and where we were headed.....

But now he has fully adopted TOF Talk... Okay so he doesn't do that Really Fucking Annoying "well errrrrr"

But even allowing for all that he just doesn't Comprehend that we HAVE TO HAVE a Striker; (*) someone who can finish from anywhere and actually put away 9 chances out of 10.

Then he went and bought Havertz (£65 fuckin' Million).. Firstly No Way! was Havertz THE Striker we so desperately needed, but he was Never EVER worth that amount of money, had he been one of those no 10's who can take the ball and lay it off to a Striker, then okay if it worked I could forgive the ridiculous amount of Money we overspent in paying the Chav Nazi's; who btw then went and bought a damn good player for just Two Thirds of that £65Mill... in Cole Palmer who (for me) would suit our team and playing down to a 'T'.

So as many have said 'The World and His Dog' can see we have needed a striker.. I mean a Proper one (*), not some player who is like a square peg in a round hole (My god where have we heard that before in the last 15 years!!!?)

So IF Arteta is the intelligent, articulate, well informed manager that so many of the fan base (and some of the media) say he is, why the Fuck Can He Not See what we all do???

Arrogance?
A Blind Spot?
A False Belief that he can re-produce what Pep did without a Striker? (And for certain he is NO Pep)


So Why? What is It?

Because it has me Utterly Bollocksed

[shu]

Totally correct 100% , tbh we have been hear before numerous times with wenger.

Where will we finish this season now . 9 pts above 5th place at the mo . i think that will be close.

This lack of strikers should be a hanging offence as jesus was physically dodgy before the season started . He sold the feather and it left just two and i don't see Havedtz as the striker we need.

[augie]

I am more than just a little confused and rather more than just a tad bewildered.


When it was first mooted that he was in the frame to take over from Unai I was dead against it! However I also thought well if he has been Pepe's Apprentice for 4 - 5 years, maybe... just maybe he has learnt a lot and can do the 'Job'.

And then when I saw how he had (genuinely and in very little time) Re-united the Fan Base, I thought Okay, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Then we won the FA Cup (admittedly under the strangest of circumstances - COVID - But none-the-less we actually had a Trophy! Whoooppeee!

And then The PEA situation where he showed or rather appeared to show no favouritism and showed him the door; setting an example to all the players that He Was In Charge And in doing that he stamped his mark as The Arsenal Manager.

Since then...

We have all seen & heard Arteta in his interviews/ pressers etc and although he has begun to talk in that strange language that TOF adopted, ie: utter-bollox and non-sensical gibberishy washy what not... When he first took over as Coach ... Manager he sounded like he knew what he was on about, indeed he made sense and talked like he knew where we needed to go, what was needed to be done and where we were headed.....

But now he has fully adopted TOF Talk... Okay so he doesn't do that Really Fucking Annoying "well errrrrr"

But even allowing for all that he just doesn't Comprehend that we HAVE TO HAVE a Striker; (*) someone who can finish from anywhere and actually put away 9 chances out of 10.

Then he went and bought Havertz (£65 fuckin' Million).. Firstly No Way! was Havertz THE Striker we so desperately needed, but he was Never EVER worth that amount of money, had he been one of those no 10's who can take the ball and lay it off to a Striker, then okay if it worked I could forgive the ridiculous amount of Money we overspent in paying the Chav Nazi's; who btw then went and bought a damn good player for just Two Thirds of that £65Mill... in Cole Palmer who (for me) would suit our team and playing down to a 'T'.

So as many have said 'The World and His Dog' can see we have needed a striker.. I mean a Proper one (*), not some player who is like a square peg in a round hole (My god where have we heard that before in the last 15 years!!!?)

So IF Arteta is the intelligent, articulate, well informed manager that so many of the fan base (and some of the media) say he is, why the Fuck Can He Not See what we all do???

Arrogance?
A Blind Spot?
A False Belief that he can re-produce what Pep did without a Striker? (And for certain he is NO Pep)


So Why? What is It?

Because it has me Utterly Bollocksed

OneBard, whilst I agree with most of what you said in the quoted piece, can I just point out that cole palmer hasnt scored in his last 6 games and hasnt had an assist in his last 13 games - I'm not saying that he isnt a good player, but I am absolutely saying that to me he is another young english player blown up to be a god and who is nowhere near that level

[OneBardGooner]

Fair enough Augie, must admit I didn't know that.... What I had seen of him earlier in the season ( I rarely watch the Chavs in all honesty) he seemed to have that ability to unlock the proverbial Low Block / Parked Bus; something we have now been shown not able to do.

I think I was more annoyed that we spend that amount on Havertz, who isn't a Bad Player simply not the type of player we needed ie: a Striker and they go out and splash part of the money we gave them on someone I feel is a better player.

[augie]

Fair enough Augie, must admit I didn't know that.... What I had seen of him earlier in the season ( I rarely watch the Chavs in all honesty) he seemed to have that ability to unlock the proverbial Low Block / Parked Bus; something we have now been shown not able to do.

I think I was more annoyed that we spend that amount on Havertz, who isn't a Bad Player simply not the type of player we needed ie: a Striker and they go out and splash part of the money we gave them on someone I feel is a better player.

Tbf the only reason I knew about palmer's lack of goals and assists is that ssn have been going on about it today

[OneBardGooner]

Besides ANY player who is happy & Willing to join the Nazi Chaves must be a CUn.T anyway.