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Who is the big club now - we have a manager living off the back of a trophy won 5 seasons ago, and those c.unts didnt even allow their manager 5 weeks of grace after winning their first trophy in 17 years
You are a WUM aren’t you sunshine? How the effing fuck you think winning the Europa League against total dross proves anything I really don’t know. You literally post like a teenager. We have cocked up but how the fuck you think we should finish 6th, get into the Europa and drop to a level we will steamroller the oppo, just to win a trophy. They lost 22 fucking times in the league!!!
By your twisted logic, Leeds had a better season. Peterborough did. Even Barnet did.
Absolutely weird!
It was a tongue in cheek comment that anyone with half a brain could read (rules you and your wum buddy out) - we have a manager living off a trophy win from 5 seasons ago and everyone knows it. We have (or should have) different standards and expectations than that lot do, and winning any trophy should be viewed as success for them, and throw in champions league football on top of that and they should be ecstatic. We however should expecting to be competing for every single major trophy and being viewed as perpetual bottle jobs whilst not even getting to a domestic cup final should not be viewed as acceptable but it seems to be. Our standards and expectations have dropped big time - partially cos of the senile french cock, but also cos of the influx of modern cock fans who cant see the wood for the trees anymore. These fans would probably reject the cup winning years we had under GG cos the football wasnt silky enough, because for these c.unts it is style over substance every day of the week - our club was build on dour football that was successful and we were labelled boring boring Arsenal because of it but we didnt care cos winning was all that mattered. Sadly that is no longer the case
I’m really confused mate. Your post quite clearly was making the point that Spurs’ standards are higher than our’s because they have sacked a manager for winning a trophy. Do you not see that it’s the other way round?
The trophy was won because they played against absolute total dross. In the League they got shown up week in and week out, losing 22 fucking times. But playing the likes of Bodo Glimt and Qarabag and Ferencvaros provided beatable opposition. Levy has seen what everyone else has seen. They simply dropped a level and won the weakest Europa League in its entire history. It’s the equivalent of winning the plate final in a rugby sevens tournament when every top side stayed in the actual cup competition. It basically confirms that you won the trophy being the best of the shit.
We have our issues but logically we can’t drop in to trophies like the Europa league if you think we are already not good enough.
Arsenal played in the Europa league in 19/20 20/21 and 22/23 under Arteta did they win it? Since he won the FA Cup with Emery's squad he hasnt reached one final.Ange deserved to get the sack but so does our clueless Lego man
Who is the big club now - we have a manager living off the back of a trophy won 5 seasons ago, and those c.unts didnt even allow their manager 5 weeks of grace after winning their first trophy in 17 years
You are a WUM aren’t you sunshine? How the effing fuck you think winning the Europa League against total dross proves anything I really don’t know. You literally post like a teenager. We have cocked up but how the fuck you think we should finish 6th, get into the Europa and drop to a level we will steamroller the oppo, just to win a trophy. They lost 22 fucking times in the league!!!
By your twisted logic, Leeds had a better season. Peterborough did. Even Barnet did.
Absolutely weird!
It was a tongue in cheek comment that anyone with half a brain could read (rules you and your wum buddy out) - we have a manager living off a trophy win from 5 seasons ago and everyone knows it. We have (or should have) different standards and expectations than that lot do, and winning any trophy should be viewed as success for them, and throw in champions league football on top of that and they should be ecstatic. We however should expecting to be competing for every single major trophy and being viewed as perpetual bottle jobs whilst not even getting to a domestic cup final should not be viewed as acceptable but it seems to be. Our standards and expectations have dropped big time - partially cos of the senile french cock, but also cos of the influx of modern cock fans who cant see the wood for the trees anymore. These fans would probably reject the cup winning years we had under GG cos the football wasnt silky enough, because for these c.unts it is style over substance every day of the week - our club was build on dour football that was successful and we were labelled boring boring Arsenal because of it but we didnt care cos winning was all that mattered. Sadly that is no longer the case
I’m really confused mate. Your post quite clearly was making the point that Spurs’ standards are higher than our’s because they have sacked a manager for winning a trophy. Do you not see that it’s the other way round?
The trophy was won because they played against absolute total dross. In the League they got shown up week in and week out, losing 22 fucking times. But playing the likes of Bodo Glimt and Qarabag and Ferencvaros provided beatable opposition. Levy has seen what everyone else has seen. They simply dropped a level and won the weakest Europa League in its entire history. It’s the equivalent of winning the plate final in a rugby sevens tournament when every top side stayed in the actual cup competition. It basically confirms that you won the trophy being the best of the shit.
We have our issues but logically we can’t drop in to trophies like the Europa league if you think we are already not good enough.
Arsenal played in the Europa league in 19/20 20/21 and 22/23 under Arteta did they win it? Since he won the FA Cup with Emery's squad he hasnt reached one final.Ange deserved to get the sack but so does our clueless Lego man
I agree that Arteta needs to go at the end of this season if he wins none of the big pots. However the Europa League this season was a shadow of the tournament we played in. You also look at the seasons Arteta has managed and for me his only real failure season was last season.
Who is the big club now - we have a manager living off the back of a trophy won 5 seasons ago, and those c.unts didnt even allow their manager 5 weeks of grace after winning their first trophy in 17 years
I was thinking this too. As much as Levy is a horrible fucker, winning a trophy and getting CL qualification (sadly vital to that lot) didn't save Ange after finishing 17th.
If our prat finished 17th but won the European tin foil cup, he'd get a 4 year contract extension.
Not a chance he would. He’d have been sacked mid season before even dreaming of the final.
Really?
I took augie's post to mean the opposite of how you interpreted it. He wasn't bigging up winning the Europa Crap Cup, he was making the point that a cup and more importantly, getting that lot into the CL, did not save Ange. Plenty of their supporters were more than happy to give him another season, but Levy clearly saw a 17th place finish as totally unacceptable.
We ought to measure ourselves using an entirely different metric and our expectations as a declared "big club", should have seen our 2nd rate manager gone after our final game of the season, but he's as safe as houses. At no other big club would a manager survive 5 years and 800 million spent, without a trophy.
It's another Wenger style fiasco. Who knows how many more years there are to watch this never ending failure roll on.
You are a WUM aren’t you sunshine? How the effing fuck you think winning the Europa League against total dross proves anything I really don’t know. You literally post like a teenager. We have cocked up but how the fuck you think we should finish 6th, get into the Europa and drop to a level we will steamroller the oppo, just to win a trophy. They lost 22 fucking times in the league!!!
By your twisted logic, Leeds had a better season. Peterborough did. Even Barnet did.
Absolutely weird!
It was a tongue in cheek comment that anyone with half a brain could read (rules you and your wum buddy out) - we have a manager living off a trophy win from 5 seasons ago and everyone knows it. We have (or should have) different standards and expectations than that lot do, and winning any trophy should be viewed as success for them, and throw in champions league football on top of that and they should be ecstatic. We however should expecting to be competing for every single major trophy and being viewed as perpetual bottle jobs whilst not even getting to a domestic cup final should not be viewed as acceptable but it seems to be. Our standards and expectations have dropped big time - partially cos of the senile french cock, but also cos of the influx of modern cock fans who cant see the wood for the trees anymore. These fans would probably reject the cup winning years we had under GG cos the football wasnt silky enough, because for these c.unts it is style over substance every day of the week - our club was build on dour football that was successful and we were labelled boring boring Arsenal because of it but we didnt care cos winning was all that mattered. Sadly that is no longer the case
I’m really confused mate. Your post quite clearly was making the point that Spurs’ standards are higher than our’s because they have sacked a manager for winning a trophy. Do you not see that it’s the other way round?
The trophy was won because they played against absolute total dross. In the League they got shown up week in and week out, losing 22 fucking times. But playing the likes of Bodo Glimt and Qarabag and Ferencvaros provided beatable opposition. Levy has seen what everyone else has seen. They simply dropped a level and won the weakest Europa League in its entire history. It’s the equivalent of winning the plate final in a rugby sevens tournament when every top side stayed in the actual cup competition. It basically confirms that you won the trophy being the best of the shit.
We have our issues but logically we can’t drop in to trophies like the Europa league if you think we are already not good enough.
Arsenal played in the Europa league in 19/20 20/21 and 22/23 under Arteta did they win it? Since he won the FA Cup with Emery's squad he hasnt reached one final.Ange deserved to get the sack but so does our clueless Lego man
I agree that Arteta needs to go at the end of this season if he wins none of the big pots. However the Europa League this season was a shadow of the tournament we played in. You also look at the seasons Arteta has managed and for me his only real failure season was last season.
Yeah lets give him another season shall we? Name a top club in Europe who would keep a manager who has spent £800m and not won a thing in 5 seasons. He blew the title two years ago after bottling an 8 point lead,the season after he went to the Etihad and parked the bus when a win would have won us the league and last season a manager in his first season in the Prem pissed all over him. We got battered by Newcastle in the league cup and in the FA cup we lost at home to the worst Man Utd team in 50 years. Fans like you are deluded Arteta is not a good manager
It was a tongue in cheek comment that anyone with half a brain could read (rules you and your wum buddy out) - we have a manager living off a trophy win from 5 seasons ago and everyone knows it. We have (or should have) different standards and expectations than that lot do, and winning any trophy should be viewed as success for them, and throw in champions league football on top of that and they should be ecstatic. We however should expecting to be competing for every single major trophy and being viewed as perpetual bottle jobs whilst not even getting to a domestic cup final should not be viewed as acceptable but it seems to be. Our standards and expectations have dropped big time - partially cos of the senile french cock, but also cos of the influx of modern cock fans who cant see the wood for the trees anymore. These fans would probably reject the cup winning years we had under GG cos the football wasnt silky enough, because for these c.unts it is style over substance every day of the week - our club was build on dour football that was successful and we were labelled boring boring Arsenal because of it but we didnt care cos winning was all that mattered. Sadly that is no longer the case
I’m really confused mate. Your post quite clearly was making the point that Spurs’ standards are higher than our’s because they have sacked a manager for winning a trophy. Do you not see that it’s the other way round?
The trophy was won because they played against absolute total dross. In the League they got shown up week in and week out, losing 22 fucking times. But playing the likes of Bodo Glimt and Qarabag and Ferencvaros provided beatable opposition. Levy has seen what everyone else has seen. They simply dropped a level and won the weakest Europa League in its entire history. It’s the equivalent of winning the plate final in a rugby sevens tournament when every top side stayed in the actual cup competition. It basically confirms that you won the trophy being the best of the shit.
We have our issues but logically we can’t drop in to trophies like the Europa league if you think we are already not good enough.
Arsenal played in the Europa league in 19/20 20/21 and 22/23 under Arteta did they win it? Since he won the FA Cup with Emery's squad he hasnt reached one final.Ange deserved to get the sack but so does our clueless Lego man
I agree that Arteta needs to go at the end of this season if he wins none of the big pots. However the Europa League this season was a shadow of the tournament we played in. You also look at the seasons Arteta has managed and for me his only real failure season was last season.
Yeah lets give him another season shall we? Name a top club in Europe who would keep a manager who has spent £800m and not won a thing in 5 seasons. He blew the title two years ago after bottling an 8 point lead,the season after he went to the Etihad and parked the bus when a win would have won us the league and last season a manager in his first season in the Prem pissed all over him. We got battered by Newcastle in the league cup and in the FA cup we lost at home to the worst Man Utd team in 50 years. Fans like you are deluded Arteta is not a good manager
Literally delusional levels of revisionism. When we led the league by 8 points, City had a game in hand and we had to go to their place. Once Saliba got injured, we collapsed and I don’t see how Arteta could have transformed Rob Holding. If you look at what actually played out, we would have had to win every game in the run in apart from away to City. They went on one of their 20 game winning runs but people forget that as we blew up. We were never winning that League.
The next season we were actually 3rd in a 2 horse race. Liverpool blew up and we won every game apart from drawing with City and losing to Villa in a bit of a smash and grab. We won something like 16 out of 18 in the run in and came up short by a couple of points.
Last season is where he has failed. Neglected the front line and paid for it. This ignores a lot of reffing decisions that went against us and a boatload of injuries. Personally I think Arteta is to blame for most of them so he failed in my book.
I don’t see how you sack a bloke who came up short against a rampant City for two seasons in a row and then dropped off in one season but finished a distant second and got to the semis of the European Cup.
This season he has to win something. But to argue he has been mismanaging us for years is delusional behaviour.
Who is the big club now - we have a manager living off the back of a trophy won 5 seasons ago, and those c.unts didnt even allow their manager 5 weeks of grace after winning their first trophy in 17 years
You are a WUM aren’t you sunshine? How the effing fuck you think winning the Europa League against total dross proves anything I really don’t know. You literally post like a teenager. We have cocked up but how the fuck you think we should finish 6th, get into the Europa and drop to a level we will steamroller the oppo, just to win a trophy. They lost 22 fucking times in the league!!!
By your twisted logic, Leeds had a better season. Peterborough did. Even Barnet did.
Absolutely weird!
It was a tongue in cheek comment that anyone with half a brain could read (rules you and your wum buddy out) - we have a manager living off a trophy win from 5 seasons ago and everyone knows it. We have (or should have) different standards and expectations than that lot do, and winning any trophy should be viewed as success for them, and throw in champions league football on top of that and they should be ecstatic. We however should expecting to be competing for every single major trophy and being viewed as perpetual bottle jobs whilst not even getting to a domestic cup final should not be viewed as acceptable but it seems to be. Our standards and expectations have dropped big time - partially cos of the senile french cock, but also cos of the influx of modern cock fans who cant see the wood for the trees anymore. These fans would probably reject the cup winning years we had under GG cos the football wasnt silky enough, because for these c.unts it is style over substance every day of the week - our club was build on dour football that was successful and we were labelled boring boring Arsenal because of it but we didnt care cos winning was all that mattered. Sadly that is no longer the case
Yeah but our footballs again dour and turgid yet the fans don't care!
Who is the big club now - we have a manager living off the back of a trophy won 5 seasons ago, and those c.unts didnt even allow their manager 5 weeks of grace after winning their first trophy in 17 years
You are a WUM aren’t you sunshine? How the effing fuck you think winning the Europa League against total dross proves anything I really don’t know. You literally post like a teenager. We have cocked up but how the fuck you think we should finish 6th, get into the Europa and drop to a level we will steamroller the oppo, just to win a trophy. They lost 22 fucking times in the league!!!
By your twisted logic, Leeds had a better season. Peterborough did. Even Barnet did.
Absolutely weird!
It was a tongue in cheek comment that anyone with half a brain could read (rules you and your wum buddy out) - we have a manager living off a trophy win from 5 seasons ago and everyone knows it. We have (or should have) different standards and expectations than that lot do, and winning any trophy should be viewed as success for them, and throw in champions league football on top of that and they should be ecstatic. We however should expecting to be competing for every single major trophy and being viewed as perpetual bottle jobs whilst not even getting to a domestic cup final should not be viewed as acceptable but it seems to be. Our standards and expectations have dropped big time - partially cos of the senile french cock, but also cos of the influx of modern cock fans who cant see the wood for the trees anymore. These fans would probably reject the cup winning years we had under GG cos the football wasnt silky enough, because for these c.unts it is style over substance every day of the week - our club was build on dour football that was successful and we were labelled boring boring Arsenal because of it but we didnt care cos winning was all that mattered. Sadly that is no longer the case
I’m really confused mate. Your post quite clearly was making the point that Spurs’ standards are higher than our’s because they have sacked a manager for winning a trophy. Do you not see that it’s the other way round?
The trophy was won because they played against absolute total dross. In the League they got shown up week in and week out, losing 22 fucking times. But playing the likes of Bodo Glimt and Qarabag and Ferencvaros provided beatable opposition. Levy has seen what everyone else has seen. They simply dropped a level and won the weakest Europa League in its entire history. It’s the equivalent of winning the plate final in a rugby sevens tournament when every top side stayed in the actual cup competition. It basically confirms that you won the trophy being the best of the shit.
We have our issues but logically we can’t drop in to trophies like the Europa league if you think we are already not good enough.
Arsenal played in the Europa league in 19/20 20/21 and 22/23 under Arteta did they win it? Since he won the FA Cup with Emery's squad he hasnt reached one final.Ange deserved to get the sack but so does our clueless Lego man
Yes he should have won but comparing this season to previous is not a like for like. Expanded CL Thai season has hoovered up more previous Europa teams AnD CL teams no longer drop into Europa.
At a real club he would have been sacked by now (a real club would have sacked him when we finished 8th the first time, let alone the second). Saying that, a real, properly run club, would have hired an assistant manager with literally no managerial experience, so we are we’re we are because of the ownership - despite their investment over the last few years.
You can’t expect any better than what your boss wants, and clearly the real boss of AFC is happy to let an egotistical novice cut his teeth at our club. The only chance we have of any change is if the stadium crowd turns on him -
like they did Wenger.
Our ownership are not serious, our board aren’t serious and our coaching staff aren’t serious. Get used to it, AGAIN, boys - you’ve at least four more years until change!
Hoping Frank is not going to work at Spurs. Has had a long period to build a side at Brentford. Is he going to come in and transform them straightaway? I bloody hope not.
Hoping Frank is not going to work at Spurs. Has had a long period to build a side at Brentford. Is he going to come in and transform them straightaway? I bloody hope not.
IMO he'd be better off staying at Brentford where he's done a good job and is respected. Going to Spurs will most likely ruin his career.
Hoping Frank is not going to work at Spurs. Has had a long period to build a side at Brentford. Is he going to come in and transform them straightaway? I bloody hope not.
IMO he'd be better off staying at Brentford where he's done a good job and is respected. Going to Spurs will most likely ruin his career.
If he does the same at the scum as he did at brentford he will be sacked within two seasons - like I said about the cone boy, some managers are good at getting teams to a certain level but are incapable of making them winners, and frank has shown nothing to suggest he will win trophies there, Getting his team to 8th wont be accepted as success at the swamp, and now after sacking the man who ended their 17 year trophy drought, franks will be under serious pressure to win a big trophy now
Hoping Frank is not going to work at Spurs. Has had a long period to build a side at Brentford. Is he going to come in and transform them straightaway? I bloody hope not.
IMO he'd be better off staying at Brentford where he's done a good job and is respected. Going to Spurs will most likely ruin his career.
If he does the same at the scum as he did at brentford he will be sacked within two seasons - like I said about the cone boy, some managers are good at getting teams to a certain level but are incapable of making them winners, and frank has shown nothing to suggest he will win trophies there, Getting his team to 8th wont be accepted as success at the swamp, and now after sacking the man who ended their 17 year trophy drought, franks will be under serious pressure to win a big trophy now
They are the equivalent of Leeds United. Won the second tier cup trophy and are now crowing. They are literally light years from top 4, let alone fighting for the League and Champions League.
