Where will we finish?

Gooners444 · Post by **Gooners444** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:46 pm

3rd. Liverpool 4th.

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:46 pm

Gooners444 wrote:3rd. Liverpool 4th.

Lay off the Vodka.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:54 pm

Lucky to get 4th.

We are relying more on Villa fucking it up more than us claiming it I reckon...

holloway@theherbert · Post by **holloway@theherbert** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:58 pm

i hate all this negativity but it has to be said, a combination of lack of confidence & simply not being good enough i'd draw the line at song, denilson & bendtner (out of who played today), there's far too much pressure on cesc to perform. on a positive note we look more solid at the back with djourou & gallas together (although gallas body language tells me he's off in jan) & also rvp & ade are a good combination, its time to get off adebayor's back, at least he can finish! 2 good signings in jan & its 4th for me.

augie · Post by **augie** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:08 pm

I reckon 5th myself unless, as DBGooner points out, that villa fcuk it up or bottle it. Put simply we are nowhere good enough and I am no longer sure that 1 or 2 signings in jan will be enough to do any better

Stokeygooner, I am interested to know when you think is an ok time to turn on wenger seeing as you say that it is too soon now. years since a very luck cup win and a team that contained players of the class of DB10, PV4, pires and henry (I know he missed the final) have been replaced by players like song, eboue, bedtner and denilson so now we are not alone not winning trophies but our quality of players has gone through the fcuking basement

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:24 pm

I'm hoping for this in January, it's not what I want - I want more, but i'm looking at it this way:

Almunia*
Sagna
Toure
Gallas*
Clichy
Nasri
Fabregas
Diaby
?
Adebayor
V.Persie

I reckon at best, we could get one decent midfield sided player in January. I'd like to see the marked* players sold & replaced at least by the end of the season, but this isn't a computer game - we all know it'll be later rather than sooner. I'd also like another midfielder to come in and challenge our wingers. For instance, Nasri doesn't turn up to away games for some reason. So there's pretty much the same line up, but with a new commanding GK, a tall CB made of sheer steel, a naturally left sided winger, and another all round decent midfielder who could challenge our LM/RM & CM positions just for healthy competition. For example, someone like hleb would be able to play in all 3 of those positions so it'd be a star find if we found someone like that.

realistic targets?

gk- lloris
df- lescott?
md- silva / ireland
cf - santa cruz?

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:34 pm

5th, unless we buy centre back and defensive midfielder in January.

holloway@theherbert · Post by **holloway@theherbert** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:36 pm

not a bad shout, although santa cruz is lower on confidence than bendtner! how about mancienne/upson CB & yaya toure DM

Chunky The Gooner · Post by **Chunky The Gooner** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:38 pm

I put 5th and I hope Im fucking wrong!

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:47 pm

holloway@theherbert wrote:not a bad shout, although santa cruz is lower on confidence than bendtner! how about mancienne/upson CB & yaya toure DM

your not far off either, im just thinking that upson lacks pace and mancienne lacks experience but would be a good one for development. and if only kolo could convince his bro to join us

and yes santa cruz is low on confidence cos his head is elsewhere and he is bottom of the premierleague. how he'd refuse a move to us, in his current state, i'll never know.

augie · Post by **augie** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:30 pm

What 3 individuals voted for the finishing 1st option ??

We should never run a poll like this at the weekend cos it is obvious that there are way too many drunks on the forum then

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:41 pm

5th

unless wenger spends,and even if he does it will be hard

villa look dam good

wereas we look like a slow lumbering piece of shite

Post by **g88ner** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:45 pm

Lethal wrote: wereas we look like a slow lumbering piece of shite

When I read that, I thought of Silvestre... I'm sorry!

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:47 pm

g88ner wrote:
Lethal wrote: wereas we look like a slow lumbering piece of shite
When I read that, I thought of Silvestre... I'm sorry!

or song
or toure
or diaby
or bendtner
..........
jesus this could go on for a while

StokeyGooner · Post by **StokeyGooner** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:12 am

augie wrote:I reckon 5th myself unless, as DBGooner points out, that villa fcuk it up or bottle it. Put simply we are nowhere good enough and I am no longer sure that 1 or 2 signings in jan will be enough to do any better

Stokeygooner, I am interested to know when you think is an ok time to turn on wenger seeing as you say that it is too soon now. years since a very luck cup win and a team that contained players of the class of DB10, PV4, pires and henry (I know he missed the final) have been replaced by players like song, eboue, bedtner and denilson so now we are not alone not winning trophies but our quality of players has gone through the fcuking basement

I am pissed and I'm trying to watch the boxing but will try to answer your question.

It has been 4 soon to be 5 years since we won the league. Granted

However in that time we have reached the European cup final (which we should have won). We've never been there before.

We should have won the league last year but were unlucky with injuries (say what you want about squad depth but the players we had injured - and the manner Eduardo got injured makes a big difference).

In the last 4 years we have on our day produced football that is the envy of Europe.

We've moved stadium which is bound to have an effect.

Foreign billionaires...

I pay for half a season ticket every year, and as far as value for money goes i'm delighted. I don't buy one on the condition we win something and nor should anyone else!

Wenger gets given a hard time for not buying in the summer but his number two when it comes to transfers has only just been replaced (David Dein) and he has effectively been trying to do two jobs at once(the board has to take responsibility for that - although I don't blame them for thinking he could do it!)

Every club in the world would snap Wenger up before you could say 'Eboue'. We should count ourselves lucky he's chosen to be loyal to the Arsenal.

Lastly he is a Gooner.

Never write a Gooner off.