As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
I fail to see the alleged superiority.
Actually in the league
Jo 16games 6goals 3assists 2.7goal ratio
Bendtner 23games 6goals 2assists 3.9goal ratio
and as I said before Jo doesnt play with Cesc and Co.
slightly misleading.
Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.
If Jo was on a train heading north by north-east at a speed of 72mph & Bendtner had 13 jelly beans that he shared out among his team-mates (excluding Adebayor) while riding a unicycle heading in the opposite direction to the train that Jo was on & both left their destination at 0915 hours, statistically speaking exactly what percentage of their combined exhalation of breath during their respective journeys would be carbon dioxide?
And how many jelly beans did Kolo get?
And who would win in a fight between a grizzly bear vs a silverback gorilla?
I would have Jo anyday of the week. Im not a fan of bendtner at all. Jo is quick, decent on the ball, decent in the air and can finish (as shown with his first goal yesterday).
I agree with others on here when they say about the chances bendtner gets compared to the chances Jo gets. You cannot compare the two stats wise as our other players are better than everton and provide more chances.(No offense to Everton)
Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
I fail to see the alleged superiority.
Actually in the league
Jo 16games 6goals 3assists 2.7goal ratio
Bendtner 23games 6goals 2assists 3.9goal ratio
and as I said before Jo doesnt play with Cesc and Co.
slightly misleading.
Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.
If Jo was on a train heading north by north-east at a speed of 72mph & Bendtner had 13 jelly beans that he shared out among his team-mates (excluding Adebayor) while riding a unicycle heading in the opposite direction to the train that Jo was on & both left their destination at 0915 hours, statistically speaking exactly what percentage of their combined exhalation of breath during their respective journeys would be carbon dioxide?
And how many jelly beans did Kolo get?
And who would win in a fight between a grizzly bear vs a silverback gorilla?
Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
I fail to see the alleged superiority.
Actually in the league
Jo 16games 6goals 3assists 2.7goal ratio
Bendtner 23games 6goals 2assists 3.9goal ratio
and as I said before Jo doesnt play with Cesc and Co.
slightly misleading.
Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.
If Jo was on a train heading north by north-east at a speed of 72mph & Bendtner had 13 jelly beans that he shared out among his team-mates (excluding Adebayor) while riding a unicycle heading in the opposite direction to the train that Jo was on & both left their destination at 0915 hours, statistically speaking exactly what percentage of their combined exhalation of breath during their respective journeys would be carbon dioxide?
And how many jelly beans did Kolo get?
And who would win in a fight between a grizzly bear vs a silverback gorilla?
In answer:-
1. They both would use the same...
2. 1 and a bit (the bit from Adebayor's share
3. Eboue would win the fight...
Am I close IU4GN? (I like a good quiz)!!!!!
1) Wrong I’m afraid. The question was what percentage of their total combined exhalations would be carbon monoxide, not who would exhale the most. And surely if that had been the question, the answer would be Bendtner as he is riding a unicycle as opposed to sitting on a train & would therefore be exhaling more frequently due to the increased physical exertion involved. Although on second thoughts the question never stated how fast the unicycle was moving & this is Bendtner we’re talking about so…
2) Wrong again. The answer is either a) ALL the jelly beans or b) none, as Adebayor protested that he was the finest jelly bean eater since Thierry Henry & as such should actually have twice as many jelly beans as anyone else or else he’d be off, only to then miss his mouth each time he tried to eat the jelly beans (despite being spoon fed by Cesc) before being robbed for them all by John Terry’s mum, the greedy chav c*nt!
3) Wrong yet again Frank. Eboue could have won the fight but went down at the start of the first round clutching his face after a phantom punch to the ribs.
and as I said before Jo doesnt play with Cesc and Co.
slightly misleading.
Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.
If Jo was on a train heading north by north-east at a speed of 72mph & Bendtner had 13 jelly beans that he shared out among his team-mates (excluding Adebayor) while riding a unicycle heading in the opposite direction to the train that Jo was on & both left their destination at 0915 hours, statistically speaking exactly what percentage of their combined exhalation of breath during their respective journeys would be carbon dioxide?
And how many jelly beans did Kolo get?
And who would win in a fight between a grizzly bear vs a silverback gorilla?
In answer:-
1. They both would use the same...
2. 1 and a bit (the bit from Adebayor's share
3. Eboue would win the fight...
Am I close IU4GN? (I like a good quiz)!!!!!
1) Wrong I’m afraid. The question was what percentage of their total combined exhalations would be carbon monoxide, not who would exhale the most. And surely if that had been the question, the answer would be Bendtner as he is riding a unicycle as opposed to sitting on a train & would therefore be exhaling more frequently due to the increased physical exertion involved. Although on second thoughts the question never stated how fast the unicycle was moving & this is Bendtner we’re talking about so…
2) Wrong again. The answer is either a) ALL the jelly beans or b) none, as Adebayor protested that he was the finest jelly bean eater since Thierry Henry & as such should actually have twice as many jelly beans as anyone else or else he’d be off, only to then miss his mouth each time he tried to eat the jelly beans (despite being spoon fed by Cesc) before being robbed for them all by John Terry’s mum, the greedy chav c*nt!
3) Wrong yet again Frank. Eboue could have won the fight but went down at the start of the first round clutching his face after a phantom punch to the ribs.
Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.
If Jo was on a train heading north by north-east at a speed of 72mph & Bendtner had 13 jelly beans that he shared out among his team-mates (excluding Adebayor) while riding a unicycle heading in the opposite direction to the train that Jo was on & both left their destination at 0915 hours, statistically speaking exactly what percentage of their combined exhalation of breath during their respective journeys would be carbon dioxide?
And how many jelly beans did Kolo get?
And who would win in a fight between a grizzly bear vs a silverback gorilla?
In answer:-
1. They both would use the same...
2. 1 and a bit (the bit from Adebayor's share
3. Eboue would win the fight...
Am I close IU4GN? (I like a good quiz)!!!!!
1) Wrong I’m afraid. The question was what percentage of their total combined exhalations would be carbon monoxide, not who would exhale the most. And surely if that had been the question, the answer would be Bendtner as he is riding a unicycle as opposed to sitting on a train & would therefore be exhaling more frequently due to the increased physical exertion involved. Although on second thoughts the question never stated how fast the unicycle was moving & this is Bendtner we’re talking about so…
2) Wrong again. The answer is either a) ALL the jelly beans or b) none, as Adebayor protested that he was the finest jelly bean eater since Thierry Henry & as such should actually have twice as many jelly beans as anyone else or else he’d be off, only to then miss his mouth each time he tried to eat the jelly beans (despite being spoon fed by Cesc) before being robbed for them all by John Terry’s mum, the greedy chav c*nt!
3) Wrong yet again Frank. Eboue could have won the fight but went down at the start of the first round clutching his face after a phantom punch to the ribs.
Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:
If Jo was on a train heading north by north-east at a speed of 72mph & Bendtner had 13 jelly beans that he shared out among his team-mates (excluding Adebayor) while riding a unicycle heading in the opposite direction to the train that Jo was on & both left their destination at 0915 hours, statistically speaking exactly what percentage of their combined exhalation of breath during their respective journeys would be carbon dioxide?
And how many jelly beans did Kolo get?
And who would win in a fight between a grizzly bear vs a silverback gorilla?
In answer:-
1. They both would use the same...
2. 1 and a bit (the bit from Adebayor's share
3. Eboue would win the fight...
Am I close IU4GN? (I like a good quiz)!!!!!
1) Wrong I’m afraid. The question was what percentage of their total combined exhalations would be carbon monoxide, not who would exhale the most. And surely if that had been the question, the answer would be Bendtner as he is riding a unicycle as opposed to sitting on a train & would therefore be exhaling more frequently due to the increased physical exertion involved. Although on second thoughts the question never stated how fast the unicycle was moving & this is Bendtner we’re talking about so…
2) Wrong again. The answer is either a) ALL the jelly beans or b) none, as Adebayor protested that he was the finest jelly bean eater since Thierry Henry & as such should actually have twice as many jelly beans as anyone else or else he’d be off, only to then miss his mouth each time he tried to eat the jelly beans (despite being spoon fed by Cesc) before being robbed for them all by John Terry’s mum, the greedy chav c*nt!
3) Wrong yet again Frank. Eboue could have won the fight but went down at the start of the first round clutching his face after a phantom punch to the ribs.
Interesting and unusually balanced and articulate discussion (well, for the Gooner Forum anyway!).
A couple of points:
1. There is a species of modern football fan who seems to think that great strikers never miss. I think this comes from modern saturation tv/youtube coverage where you can't move for goals montages that give the impression that strikers score with every touch. Having watched the Arsenal for more than 40 years, and seen some of the best strikers ever to play the game, I can vouch for Wrighty, Thierry and even Dennis missing their share of sitters.
2. As I've said elsewhere, Nicklas has scored more goals this season than Fernando Torres (with not that much more game time). One of them apparently is the best striker in the world, while the other one (according to our resident morons) is "not fit to wear the shirt".
I agree with rebel in that we should cut bedtner a little slack cos he really does work his socks off and in an era where there are far far too many overplayed and overhyped lazy *word censored* that workrate should be acknowledged. That said I dont really think that he will ever make it at the top level - I dont go along with this line that it is more worrying when a striker isnt get any chances than if he is missing chances cos at the top level the best strikers only need 1 chance and they bury it and those goals invariably make the difference. I think that saying might apply for lower level strikers but if you are playing at the top level then you simply have to be more clinical and I dont think nic ever will be
Having said all that I certainly wouldnt be jumping up to sing the praises of jo either just cos he has had a mini decent run. I remember earlier in this season some on this forum were almost "creaming" themselves over zaki and giving out that we turned down the chance to buy him but now he hasnt scored since december and they reckon there is more chance of finding lord mountbatton than there is of finding the egyptian
Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.
Also, Bendtner played many of those games without Cesc btw.
Hence why I wrote Cesc and Co
In the top 20 assists in the league, Arsenal have got 4players with a total of 30 while Everton only have 2players with a total of 13 and Citeh 1player with 7assist
That being the case Bendtner would have had more chances to score than Jo
Bendtner 55shots 24shots on goal
Jo(both everton and citeh) 37shots 15shots on goal
dont have time to do the math but am sure you would find that shots/goal ratio favours Jo[/b]
it goes both ways you know.
Everton score more goals with their direct play, plenty of high balls and crosses. Something a tall player like Bendtner (or Jo for that matter) will find useful.
Again, Everton only scored 6 goals less than us. you make it sound like it's 20.
Plus Jo is currently the one fit striker for Everton (I think glassman Saha is injured again) and doesn't have the anxiety of competing with Van Persie, Adebayor, Eduardo and Walcott for playing time.
Bendtner's finishing does have to improve a lot, but the encouraging thing about him is that he keeps getting into the right positions to get a goal. My guess is the first time a scores a corker they'll be no stopping him from then on. Ibrahimovic was very similar at the same age, I'm not saying Bendtner is as talented but there's no reason to think he won't improve.
Btw Bendtners International goals per games ratio is roughly 1 in every two appearances - not too shabby for a 20 year old.
on the same level with Ade's hat-trick against Derby(free points and goals for all)
