Bendtner Vs Jo

GunnerDude · Post by **GunnerDude** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:41 pm

Jo is 1yr older but fact is he doesnt have players like AA, Cesc, Robin, Nasri e.t.c to assist him but yet scores with his FEET.
For all the running around that Nick does I still fear that if he has the final chance of the CL final to win us the game he will miss.

Am I wrong to think that Jo is better then Nick or should I wait till he is 22 like Jo?

JMascis666 · Post by **JMascis666** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:48 pm

The thing is Jo was a train wreck when he was at City. Its only since Moyes has got hold of him, he has started to resemble a footballer

hadareud · Post by **hadareud** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:00 pm

let's see:

Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

I fail to see the alleged superiority.

Sutch · Post by **Sutch** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:05 pm

hadareud wrote:let's see:

Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)
I fail to see the alleged superiority.

And how many times has he missed a sitter? How many times has he blazed over from 6 yards out? I know he's only 21 but at this moment in time, not good enough for Arsenal.

hadareud · Post by **hadareud** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:10 pm

The mark of a bad striker is not to miss chances. It's not getting the chances in the first place.

As you say - he's young. I am certain that his scoring rate will improve and that he will miss fewer chances in the future.

What counts is that he's won us games and he's changed games when he came on.

In other words - he's good enough for Arsenal at exactly this moment in time.

youngw · Post by **youngw** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:20 pm

hadareud wrote:let's see:

Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

I fail to see the alleged superiority.

Im not saying youre right or wrong, but you gotta think about the team Bendtner is playing in and the team Jo is/was playing in.

hadareud · Post by **hadareud** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:24 pm

agreed. But it's not like those clubs score massively less goals than we do. Everton have scored 6 goals less than us and City 4 games less than us.

But of course Bendtner has more or better opportunities than Jo, no denying that.

But I know that I'd rather have a player who is hungry and changes games with his workrate and by creating space for others with his power than an overrated and overpaid Brazilian that scored a few of goals in two 4-0 wins recently.

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:32 pm

The other factor that has to put into this is that Jo cost 19 million when Man City signed him, Bendtner cost us f.a.

I haven't seen much of Jo, but I'd personally have Bendtner over Jo any day of the week.

GunnerDude · Post by **GunnerDude** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:37 pm

hadareud wrote:let's see:

Jo
8 goals and 4 assists in 28 games this season (19 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

Bendtner
11 goals and 4 assists in 37 games this season (22 starts)
6 goals and 2 assists in the league (13 starts)

I fail to see the alleged superiority.

Actually in the league

Jo 16games 6goals 3assists 2.7goal ratio

Bendtner 23games 6goals 2assists 3.9goal ratio

and as I said before Jo doesnt play with Cesc and Co.

hadareud · Post by **hadareud** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:49 pm

slightly misleading.

Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.

Also, Bendtner played many of those games without Cesc btw.

Post by **REB** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:13 pm

hard to make a comparison with the 2, jo doesnt look much in my opinion and is not worth the 19m that city payed for him ,i don't think nic is good enough for the arsenal either but he tries so will support him because of that, his finishing is atrocious and he really must improve that part of his game

GunnerDude · Post by **GunnerDude** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:16 pm

hadareud wrote:slightly misleading.

Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.

Also, Bendtner played many of those games without Cesc btw.

Hence why I wrote Cesc and Co

In the top 20 assists in the league, Arsenal have got 4players with a total of 30 while Everton only have 2players with a total of 13 and Citeh 1player with 7assist

That being the case Bendtner would have had more chances to score than Jo

Bendtner 55shots 24shots on goal

Jo(both everton and citeh) 37shots 15shots on goal

dont have time to do the math but am sure you would find that shots/goal ratio favours Jo[/b]

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:19 pm

GunnerDude wrote:Jo is 1yr older but fact is he doesnt have players like AA, Cesc, Robin, Nasri e.t.c to assist him but yet scores with his FEET.
For all the running around that Nick does I still fear that if he has the final chance of the CL final to win us the game he will miss.

Am I wrong to think that Jo is better then Nick or should I wait till he is 22 like Jo?

Not quite sure why the debate on these two players but to answer your original question, Yes, wait, because I'm pretty sure that Bendtner will improve, especially his finishing. (He's got to hasn't he?)

norfbankN16 · Post by **norfbankN16** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:21 pm

Bendtner gets himself into some great positions and works the field well in the attacking half

hadareud · Post by **hadareud** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:22 pm

GunnerDude wrote:
hadareud wrote:slightly misleading.

Bendtner played 1316 minutes in the league, Jo 1188. If you actually really want to break it down then Bendtner scored every 220 minutes, Jo every 198. One of Jo's goals was a penalty btw, discounting that goal would take Bendtner ahead of him again. About that 3rd assist - according to Opta he has 2, according to Actim 3.

Also, Bendtner played many of those games without Cesc btw.
Hence why I wrote Cesc and Co

In the top 20 assists in the league, Arsenal have got 4players with a total of 30 while Everton only have 2players with a total of 13 and Citeh 1player with 7assist

That being the case Bendtner would have had more chances to score than Jo

Bendtner 55shots 24shots on goal

Jo(both everton and citeh) 37shots 15shots on goal

dont have time to do the math but am sure you would find that shots/goal ratio favours Jo[/b]

it goes both ways you know.

Everton score more goals with their direct play, plenty of high balls and crosses. Something a tall player like Bendtner (or Jo for that matter) will find useful.

Again, Everton only scored 6 goals less than us. you make it sound like it's 20.

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