Some Questions For Arsene to Answer

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Some Questions For Arsene to Answer

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1. Why did the starting line-up consist of neither Arshaven or Nasri? Most fans thought it might be one or the other but to leave both out? Especially when you consider that Chelsea had a centre half playing right back for them, who either of our players would have fancied roasting. (No puns needed guys!! :roll: This ain't the time or the place. :cry: )

2. Why play Van Persie out on the left hand side of midfield? It unbalanced our midfield and thus meant we were only threatening down one side. We all know that he won't go outside his defender with pace or a trick - like Arshaven and Nasri might have done - and if he cuts inside he automatically comes onto his self-confessed chocolate leg!! If you are going to play Van Persie as part of a 5 man midfield, than play him on the right - as Holland did/do - and then he at least is coming onto his strong side.

3. Why did you leave it so late to make the substitutions? We were obviously struggling to create anything and an earlier change might have helped us. A team can have one or maybe two players that are careless with the ball but we had a plethora of them and yet you did nothing about it until it was too late.

4. When you finally did something, why did you make the substitutions that you did? Diaby was having a nightmare and was a prime candidate to be changed and could have been replaced by either Arshavin/Nasri (allowing Cesc to drop back and RVP or the other sub to play in support of Ade) or if you didn't want to change the system, Diaby could have been replaced by Song.

5. Although Ade was struggling to make an impact, and Robin was on the edge of the game, why did you take both of them off? I understand maybe a straight Ade/Nic swap, or even taking RVP off and replacing him with Andrey or Sami. But all you did was keep the same shape and took off our two top goalscorers.

Now I thought we might lose today because of the weakness of our defence, but what disappointed me more is that we didn't play well attacking wise and lost to a team that weren't, and didn't play any better than ourselves. This was in major part down to the team selection made by Wenger. To compound things, the goals we conceeded were both self inflicted.

I'm not going to have a go at Fab for the winner as it was clearly a bad mistake. The jury is obviously still out on whether he will be good enough in the long term. One thing is clear though, the kid isn't ready now for a team with aspirations of winning stuff.

Finally - although I could go on - those of you that wondered/forgot why Sagna was brought, it was made clear again today: Eboue Can't Defend!!! :banghead: The lad has always had a concentration problem and was responsible for a lot of the goals we conceeded a couple of years back purely because of this aspect of his game. To be fair, he was very sprightly going forward and added attacking threat from that position, just as he used to, but a defender has to first and foremost be able to defend properly. Alas, at this moment in time, all too many of our defenders don't practise the art that well.

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Great post dude and you summed up every question I have. We all know that starting formation was a joke but then why sub off Ade and RVP and not Denilson (worst player i have ever seen in an Arsenal shirt) or Diaby (shocker)????

Also...when we are on this roll of form, scoring lots, and playing great...why do you switch up our lineup in order to play Chelsea instead of keeping it the same and making them play us? We played right into their hands by having a 5 man midfield. 4-4-2 would have been much better.




Wenger, you sucked today no and if buts about it. You blew. And it wasnt the fucking pitch you asshole.

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Agree with every single word, and i worry now that these strange decisions will continue into the utd champ league semis

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Re: Some Questions For Arsene to Answer

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I Hate Hleb wrote:Why play Van Persie out on the left hand side of midfield? It unbalanced our midfield and thus meant we were only threatening down one side..
Aaah Hlebby, I'll read the rest later. I'm sure it's worth a set of sober eyes. 8)

We weren't even threatening down the other side. Why would we bother to try and skin em down both? :oops:

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Re: Some Questions For Arsene to Answer

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I Hate Hleb wrote:2. Why play Van Persie out on the left hand side of midfield? It unbalanced our midfield and thus meant we were only threatening down one side. We all know that he won't go outside his defender with pace or a trick - like Arshaven and Nasri might have done - and if he cuts inside he automatically comes onto his self-confessed chocolate leg!! .
Good post, IHH 8)

This is what I wrote on another thread about playing RvP on the left...
Out of all the decisions Wenger made today, playing Van Persie on the left just seems bizarre to me!

- When he's on the left wing, he's not a goal threat... when he cuts inside, he's cutting in onto his RIGHT foot (his cholcolate leg :oops: ) so he's not going to score goals from that position.

- He's not known for his great crossing ability as a winger.

- He hasn't got the pace to fly past the fullback and whip crosses in.

- He isn't known for his great defensive work, so picking him ahead of Nasri or Arshavin certainly wasn't to give Gibbs added protection.

So, WHY was Van Persie chosen to play wide left?? WHAT does he bring to the party from the left wing, that Arshavin doesn't??? :?

I'm baffled.

I feel like we played into Chelsea's hands today and Wenger and the players must surely be leaving Wembley with nothing but regrets.
To add to that......

I am totally dumbfounded at the decision to drop Song. He wasn't rested, because you don't rest a player in a Semi Final against Chelsea at Wembley... he was dropped. It was a bizarre decision, it really was. :roll:

Anyway....

I understand a team has to lose. I can accept defeat as long as we've given it our best shot, but what we saw today was bizarre. We played into Cheslea's hands and, at the same time, handicapped ourselves.

I'm so frustrated at the moment.

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Have to agree with IHH though I felt subbing Van Persie was right, felt it was bizarre we took off Ade. Sub Diaby/Denilson for Nic and go for 2 up front with Cesc dropping deep if you want or bring in Song for any of the non Cesc central midfielders to try and get control of the midfield

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anyone else feel that wenger confused this FA cup semi-final with the Carling Cup?

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oh and whos taking bets that arsene doesnt man up and admit he was wrong and instead uses excuses like 'pitch' and 'tired' and 'showed spirit' and 'first chelsea goal was offsides'

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Yeah, sorry g88ner. Only just read it because I needed time to get over the disappointment and then wanted to get some stuff off my chest. In fact we both wrote what the majority of gooners were probably thinking.

The most shocking decisions for me were the fact that Wenger didn't start Arshavin or Nasri, and that he never took off Diaby when he couldn't pass wind, let alone the ball properly. :oops: :oops: :roll:

Added to that was Denilson accomplishing absolutely nothing - either defensively or in attack - and we had a recipe for disaster. All I can say to those people, unfortunately including Wenger, that quote stats about Denilson's apparent success at passing and tackling is "arrange a trip to spec-savers!!" I don't give a feck what the statistics say and would rather trust what I see with my own eyes. And I'm telling you, the lad can't tackle for toffee, can't play attacking passes and gives the ball away far too easily and much too often!! :banghead: :banghead:

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i am so so SOOOOOO pissed at wenger right now. never been so pissed at a coach or manager in my life. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:i am so so SOOOOOO pissed at wenger right now. never been so pissed at a coach or manager in my life. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
i was just about to type the same thing. i just keep thinking about how badly he has fucked up today :banghead:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:Added to that was Denilson accomplishing absolutely nothing - either defensively or in attack - and we had a recipe for disaster. All I can say to those people, unfortunately including Wenger, that quote stats about Denilson's apparent success at passing and tackling is "arrange a trip to spec-savers!!" I don't give a feck what the statistics say and would rather trust what I see with my own eyes. And I'm telling you, the lad can't tackle for toffee, can't play attacking passes and gives the ball away far too easily and much too often!! :banghead: :banghead:
IHH, you don't seriously expect a Fabregas type domination from Denilson do you? If so you must have less hair now than you started off with in August.

After only watching 4 games of Denilson it is very clear how limited he is as a footballer. By lowering expections of him you might find he does a better job than you realise.

I feel he was by far our second best player today, especially first half. There are so many more people to shoulder blame than Denilson, fair enough he'll never be the player we need but out there today he can hold his head higher than most.

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Chelsea only had the long diagional ball over the top or a the punt down the middle unfortunately our bollocks defense couldn't cope with either.

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Number 5 wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Added to that was Denilson accomplishing absolutely nothing - either defensively or in attack - and we had a recipe for disaster. All I can say to those people, unfortunately including Wenger, that quote stats about Denilson's apparent success at passing and tackling is "arrange a trip to spec-savers!!" I don't give a feck what the statistics say and would rather trust what I see with my own eyes. And I'm telling you, the lad can't tackle for toffee, can't play attacking passes and gives the ball away far too easily and much too often!! :banghead: :banghead:
IHH, you don't seriously expect a Fabregas type domination from Denilson do you? If so you must have less hair now than you started off with in August.

After only watching 4 games of Denilson it is very clear how limited he is as a footballer. By lowering expections of him you might find he does a better job than you realise.

I feel he was by far our second best player today, especially first half. There are so many more people to shoulder blame than Denilson, fair enough he'll never be the player we need but out there today he can hold his head higher than most.

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Er No!! And trust me Number 5, my expectations of Denilson could hardly be lower!! :lol: Agree that the lad is limited but disagree totally that he was our second best player today. :shock: :? He might have played up to his ability in your eyes, but it wasn't good enough today and whether that will ever be good enough for the majority of fans (although I accept you're also not his biggest fan) and for a club with our supposed aspirations is highly debateable. :lol: :wink:

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i atually cant belive the mistake he made today. It was shocking! How can he not play Song today? he has been our best player for the past month, and man of the match on wednesday night! its crazy to start diaby, who has been injured for 3 weeks, ahead of him, secondly, how the hell can you leave our freshest player, Arshavin, on the bench? he must have been roaring to go!!!! what the hell is he saving him for? tuesday night????

Chelsea did not win the game today, Arsene Wenger lost it. I hope he pulls his finger out for the CL because if we go to manchester and play like we did today, it dont matter how bad united have been recently they will batter us!

On a good note, the support today was absolutley fantastic, even after we lost, it was only us gooner that you could hear down wembley way.... shit club, shit fans, no history.

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